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checkmate wrote:You obviously see it different; I suppose that 9 wins with a veteran team is better than 12 or 13. 4th is better than 3rd so I must be not in touch with the facts.unless you have been to a LU baseball game this season shut up
checkmate wrote:After 16 games:SO NOT TRUE...our tennis teams are doing better now than they did under Larry Hubbard. Last season, the guys doubled their win total from the season before and would have an even better record if it weren't for season-ending injuries. Our girls had the 17th-ranked recruiting class in the nation, have beaten 3 teams that beat us last year (Coastal Carolina, Longwood, UNCW), beaten 2 teams with recruiting classes ranked higher than ours (UNCW, George Washington). Jeff Barber is doing great as an AD, and I have no doubt our Baseball team will come out of this slump.
2006 13-3 Matt Royer
2007 12-4 Matt Royer
2008 9-7 Jim Toman
Looks like everything JB touches moves in the wrong direction.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
ATrain wrote:Your entitled to your opinion. I just don't think that MR was treated right, fair, just however you care to describe it. JB is given a free pass by so many with no justification. He walks in here and acts like he has all the answers. Recklessly hurts good men and families who are LU alums finishing 2nd to the 6th rated rpi team in the country and many of you call it progress. Just because the athletic administration can frame the debate and holds the power doesn't mean it has to be swallowed. It is wrong to treat people this way in any organization especially if we represent the "love thy neighbor as yourself" of Matthew.checkmate wrote:After 16 games:Jeff Barber is doing great as an AD.
2006 13-3 Matt Royer
2007 12-4 Matt Royer
2008 9-7 Jim Toman
Looks like everything JB touches moves in the wrong direction.
Knucklehead wrote:CM - do you just hate everything? Look after a 6-0 start, I expected better too, but back off and give the guy a chance. It takes time for new situations to gel. So back off, and get a stinkin hobby and go away! We don't need so many Winthrop Fans on here any way!Quite the contrary...their is much I love and appreciate. Big Tolsma, Pinder, Rocco, Alder, Castro fan. We had many great things happening long before the current AD came to town. His moves are open to discussion and obviously I am not a fan of stealing dreams and damaging families when programs are demonstrating success.
SuperJon wrote:Once again, "it's not just about wins and losses."Of course not, he must find some way to justify his actions. So let's just go with the conspiracy theory and trash good LU alums. Because those of us who supported MR can find reasons to keep him. But AD's need press conferences to act like they are doing something. Leaders in vertical positions of authority can manipulate issues and blow them up to work their agenda or serve in helping subordinates grow and solve problems. I believe time has already revealed the paradigm from which these decisions flowed. And I know that long time LU supporters have walked away over these issues and you will see the impact in the coming years.
checkmate wrote:Speak with the players. Ask them how much more they're enjoying playing the game of baseball this year. Ask them how much more they have learned this year. Ask them how much more smoothly practices and workouts are being ran. Ask them now if they would suggest Liberty as a place to play baseball and if they would've done that a year ago.SuperJon wrote:Once again, "it's not just about wins and losses."Of course not, he must find some way to justify his actions. So let's just go with the conspiracy theory and trash good LU alums. Because those of us who supported MR can find reasons to keep him. But AD's need press conferences to act like they are doing something. Leaders in vertical positions of authority can manipulate issues and blow them up to work their agenda or serve in helping subordinates grow and solve problems. I believe time has already revealed the paradigm from which these decisions flowed. And I know that long time LU supporters have walked away over these issues and you will see the impact in the coming years.