[PAmedic]

Congrats to Coach for getting this done- great association, anway. don't know if it is an entirely new concept to LU Baseball, but a great one nonetheless. Do we get a discount on this stuff?

from the SID: http://libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID= ... 53&TeamID=

Wilson/DeMarini Teams Up With Liberty Baseball


October 3, 2008
Lynchburg, Va.

The Liberty Baseball Program announced it has signed a contract with Wilson/DeMarini to provide the Flames with bats, gloves and other equipment for the upcoming year.

“Our baseball program is proud to have entered into a contract with Wilson/DeMarini,” stated Liberty head coach Jim Toman. “Wilson gloves are used by many major league players and are considered to be some of the best gloves in the industry, and DeMarini bats are used by many of the top college baseball programs in the country.

[fmrflame]

its about time liberty got a contract with someone to provide the players with what they need. A D-1 program should not have to ask their atheletes to pay for equipment, which was the case in the past if you wanted more than a pair cleats. Congrats to whomever is the mastermind behind this deal.

[PAmedic]

To-man?

<or>

Bar-ber?

either way- nicely done, gents

[Cider Jim]

Since we never had a baseball deal like this before, I'm guessing it's due to Toman's contacts, but it could have been Barber's. Also, didn't McKay work out something similar with the basketball team's uniforms shortly after he was hired?

[Knucklehead]

It's because we're finally hiring coaches across the board who have seen how it's done in big time colleges!
So I say thanks to Barber!

[SuperJon]

Remember, we're a Nike school now. That was announced a while back. Everyone will be wearing Nike cleats. This just covers their gloves and bats.

McKay didn't really "work a deal" when he got here since we were already with Nike, but he did get some nice stuff.

[Schfourteenteen]

Remember, we're a Nike school now. That was announced a while back. Everyone will be wearing Nike cleats. This just covers their gloves and bats.

McKay didn't really "work a deal" when he got here since we were already with Nike, but he did get some nice stuff.

Now if we just got the new Nike football unis.....

[prototype]

Wow - you guys are humorous. It's pretty much the same deal they have gotten for the last 5 years. The difference?...A release was written about it. I was involved with Liberty Athletics at LU and can tell you no one is buying their own equipment (fmrflame), unless it's a club sport like Lacrosse or Hockey.

I'm glad to see the administration get behind Baseball and attract people to give to the program, but not going to quickly forget or overlook what has been done in the past by coaches making less than a manager at McDonalds. Coach Royer got bigger deals than that - himself, that new Baseball fence wasn't paid for by Athletics, it was paid by a close friend of Royer, the difference - there was no press release announcing it!

[fmrflame]

Well I dont know what you know prototype, but when I played we were "given" the minimum (cleats, turfs, underarmor and a couple more things), but if we wanted sweats, wind suits, t-shirts etc. we had to pay for it out of pocket and it wasnt even that good of a deal and we were lucky if we actually received the stuff from the AWFUL company that they did business with. Im not sure if they still deal with them.

In four years on the baseball team, I have ONE t-shirt that says liberty baseball (its too small) and I had to pay for it. That is real emabarassing when you go to summer ball and all of the players trade t-shirts from different schools and you are the kid that doesnt have anything to trade. I'm just saying that hopefully the players finally get what they dereserve (equipment).

I also know that Royer, made a lot of improvements to the facility on his own time and without the schools help. That is just a poor reflection on the administration at that time.

[El Scorcho]

I'm glad to see the administration get behind Baseball and attract people to give to the program, but not going to quickly forget or overlook what has been done in the past by coaches making less than a manager at McDonalds.

I don't like to hear people complain about working at LU and reference how much they're paid in the same sentence. It's a pet peeve of mine. If someone doesn't like working here, then they can find a job somewhere else. No one is forcing them to stay. Ninety-nine percent of the people working for LU still make less than a manager at McDonald's, and if that includes coaches, then that's a decision they've made.

[Cider Jim]

For the record, just how much does a manager at McDonalds make these days?

[sitemdown77]

Actually this deal is an absolute monster compared to anything LU Baseball has ever had, that's why there was a press release about it....

[Rocketfan]

I'm glad to see the administration get behind Baseball and attract people to give to the program, but not going to quickly forget or overlook what has been done in the past by coaches making less than a manager at McDonalds.

I don't like to hear people complain about working at LU and reference how much they're paid in the same sentence. It's a pet peeve of mine. If someone doesn't like working here, then they can find a job somewhere else. No one is forcing them to stay. Ninety-nine percent of the people working for LU still make less than a manager at McDonald's, and if that includes coaches, then that's a decision they've made.

Proto was complaining but not referencing his own salary....but rather Royers. Proto didnt work at LU, rather for LU in a marketing capacity, there is a difference.
Proto was just referencing that we got a lot more than we paid for no matter what others may think of Royer. 99% is a complete exaggeration, because lots of athletic coaches make more than some Mcdonald's mangers.

[SuperJon]

If Royer didn't like what he was being paid, he could've resigned at any time. No one forced him to sign the contract he did.


I smell sour grapes on the whole thing.

[sitemdown77]

Actually making deals has nothing to do with how much salary the coach makes. Oh and by the way, MR did make more than Gilmore at Coastal proto in case you want to try that pennies stuff out again.

[sitemdown77]

Now that that's settled and dealt with, continue with talking about the CURRENT team and what's going on.....proceed.

[El Scorcho]

I'm glad to see the administration get behind Baseball and attract people to give to the program, but not going to quickly forget or overlook what has been done in the past by coaches making less than a manager at McDonalds.

I don't like to hear people complain about working at LU and reference how much they're paid in the same sentence. It's a pet peeve of mine. If someone doesn't like working here, then they can find a job somewhere else. No one is forcing them to stay. Ninety-nine percent of the people working for LU still make less than a manager at McDonald's, and if that includes coaches, then that's a decision they've made.

Proto was complaining but not referencing his own salary....but rather Royers. Proto didnt work at LU, rather for LU in a marketing capacity, there is a difference.
Proto was just referencing that we got a lot more than we paid for no matter what others may think of Royer. 99% is a complete exaggeration, because lots of athletic coaches make more than some Mcdonald's mangers.

I am aware that proto was talking about Royers. He was complaining for Royers by proxy in his statements. My point is that, in most cases, LU is getting more than they pay for with all of their employees, so it just doesn't make much of a point to bring salary into it.

99% is not an exaggeration. How many athletic coaches do you think there are here compared to the overall number of faculty and staff members?

[Rocketfan]

I don't like to hear people complain about working at LU and reference how much they're paid in the same sentence. It's a pet peeve of mine. If someone doesn't like working here, then they can find a job somewhere else. No one is forcing them to stay. Ninety-nine percent of the people working for LU still make less than a manager at McDonald's, and if that includes coaches, then that's a decision they've made.

Proto was complaining but not referencing his own salary....but rather Royers. Proto didnt work at LU, rather for LU in a marketing capacity, there is a difference.
Proto was just referencing that we got a lot more than we paid for no matter what others may think of Royer. 99% is a complete exaggeration, because lots of athletic coaches make more than some Mcdonald's mangers.

I am aware that proto was talking about Royers. He was complaining for Royers by proxy in his statements. My point is that, in most cases, LU is getting more than they pay for with all of their employees, so it just doesn't make much of a point to bring salary into it.

99% is not an exaggeration. How many athletic coaches do you think there are here compared to the overall number of faculty and staff members?

What is the total # of employees at LIberty? I think i can give you more than 1% by name that make more than 45k a year.

[El Scorcho]

Proto was complaining but not referencing his own salary....but rather Royers. Proto didnt work at LU, rather for LU in a marketing capacity, there is a difference.
Proto was just referencing that we got a lot more than we paid for no matter what others may think of Royer. 99% is a complete exaggeration, because lots of athletic coaches make more than some Mcdonald's mangers.

I am aware that proto was talking about Royers. He was complaining for Royers by proxy in his statements. My point is that, in most cases, LU is getting more than they pay for with all of their employees, so it just doesn't make much of a point to bring salary into it.

99% is not an exaggeration. How many athletic coaches do you think there are here compared to the overall number of faculty and staff members?

What is the total # of employees at LIberty? I think i can give you more than 1% by name that make more than 45k a year.

Is that what we've established as the salary for a McDonald's manager now?

I guess you can call it an exaggeration, then. I'll admit I could be slightly over-estimating by the time you factor in VP's, athletic coaches and department heads. I just don't think I'm off by more than 2 or 3%. Even if I am, no one around here is making nearly as much as they would in the private sector, or even at other educational institutions, and that was more of what I was trying to get at. (If they are and I'm somehow unaware of it, then someone is playing a big nasty joke on all of the folks in IT at LU.) Things have improves slightly in the past year or two, but most people around here are still working for peanuts.

Regardless, my point still stands. It doesn't give them the right to complain (or have someone else complain by proxy) that they're doing too much work for the money. The only person that can be held responsible for agreeing to work for a particular salary is the person making the agreement.

[Yosemite Sam]

There is obviously still some tension on this site regarding Royer. Just to set the record straight though:
Royer never once complained about $$$. He loved LU and was there b/c he believed it was where God wanted him. He actually took a paycut to come to LU. Yes his salary increased but he lost better and free state health benefits and a much more lucrative camp setup. It is my understanding he made somewhere between $50,000 and $55,000 at LU. He never once got a real raise b/c he was never given a contract. That's just LU. I think the only ones on contract at the time were Football, MBB, and WBB. Kim Graham the A.D. was not even on a contract.

Nobody probably knows this but when Tomlin left, Royer never took any of his salary for himself even though he had every right too since their respective salaries were only a couple thousand dollars apart. Instead he gave coach Weaver a raise and took on coach Reynolds as a full time asst. He had every right to request some of that money for himself but he never even thought of doing that. Because money was never important to him.

All Royer has left at LU is his reputation and I don't want to have misconceptions floating out in cyberspace about him.

Sitemdown77: I don't know where you got info on comparing Royer's and Glimore's salaries. It must have been when Royer first signed on with Liberty. That would mean Gilmore was making less than $50,000 a year. I find that hard to believe, but maybe it's true. It is my understanding that last year he was on a 7 year contract making over $90,000.

[El Scorcho]

There is obviously still some tension on this site regarding Royer. Just to set the record straight though:
Royer never once complained about $$$.

No one ever said he did, but thanks for setting it straight.