[Fumblerooskies]

OK...the 24 period of mourning and good feelings on the other thread has past. Obviously, the one rumor many of us have heard has the triumvirate of Tomlin, Guetterman, and Bream riding in on white horses to save the day. Any other rumors, shy of breaking news (which we all know is strictly verboten) would be good to know.

Myself? I speculate that Tomlin will want to make a clean break from LU and perhaps work his way up the minors to an eventual MLB pitching coach position. For Guettermann and Bream, I have no idea about their relationship with Coach Royer. ..if they are relatively close, they may not want the job.

I suspect that for the Head Coach, Barber will go outside the LU family...perhaps tapping into his SEC connections. Delmonico is intriguing, but I have no ideas about his feelings for LU. Perhaps one of the "hags" could share some light. It would be cool, though, especially if he brought his talented son along.

One person I looked at is the Associate Head Coach as S. Carolina. He's followed Tanner around since NC State...but I could find nothing about his religious inclinations.

[flameshaw]

I think that the chance of one of these three guys becoming HC would be equal to RD becoming a major D1 HC next year, just not going to happen.

There are some names being floated and as someone already said, this has been in the works for some time, so I am sure a lot of thought has already gone into this. I am aware of an exelent candidate that will apply for the position, but will have to see how it works out. Definitely a guy on the way up with impeccable references and a good record/experience. If we get someone in this catagory, we will absolutely get a good one.

I think we should also commend the AD department for taking care of the staff that was just let go/resigned. The severence packages that I know of, were not only very adequate but also deserved. Sometimes in the employment arena, changes are necessary but not always palatable to all parties.

[knobodywest]

tomlin has had 10 years D1 experience, Royers first year, Tomlin had to go every where with Him to show Him the ropes, recruiting issues, budget, travel, scholarships and compliance. I seriously doubt that three ex-major league baseball players would struggle with coaching baseball. Sid obviosly would be infield coach and hitting coach, Lee obviosly would be pitching coach,( which is better already then what was there this year) so that leaves Tomlin to pick up the program. That was one of the biggest problems between Royer and Tomlin is that the guys continuesly went to Tomlin instead of Royer for help and advice. The players want Him back as Head Coach. He has a great mind for the every aspect of the game, ( don't comment on that statement if you have never sat and listened to His knowledge like we all have time and time again at His home) Here is a thought, if a Cardiologist can leave the Hospital for a classroom, if a Lawyer can leave the courtroom for a classroom, why is it so hard to beleive that a major league baseball player could leave playing the game to coach. Its not hard to beleive. In the minor leagues you are coached by guys who just left the game playing, not coaches with years of experience in coaching under the belts. Now I don't beleive Bream or Guetterman could do it without Tomlins help. This is just all speculation, but I do know for a fact that Randy Tomlin is coming to Lynchburg all day Monday.

[4everfsu]

Didn't Al Worthington leave the big leagues to take over LBC baseball program? I believe he did so it can be done

[flameshaw]

Al Worthington was pitching coach with the Minnesota Twins when he left to become HC at LU. He was a good one and the players loved him. I guess almost anything is possible, but regardless of what or who, I think we will definitely get a very good HC who will hopefully take us to the next level.

[prototype]

Knobodywest - Now your true colors are coming out.

Tomin has been around baseball along time - that doesn't mean you autmatically are going to be a good head coach. You know why you like him knowbody - he fed you at his house and told you stories of the five minutes he was in the league.

Tomlin is the whole reason we are where we are today. He constantly underminded the program by going behind Royer. You can't be a good leader, if you don't know how to follow when needed to.

No one questions Tomlins love for the game - You have to question his work ethic, loyalty and dedication to the baseball program as a whole. Royer was forced to keep Tomlin when he came on, and Tomlin never would let Royer forget that and used that to constantly undermnd his authority as a head coach.

You want a Baseball Coach or a Social Commitee Chair - You choose?

Says a lot that you are such a Tomlin fan - now it comes to light why you were always so negative towards Royer.

Your whole lawyer, Cardiologist argument was cute, but you forgot a big point. Those two go into teaching because it's less stressful and gives them the abilty to spend more time at home - A baseball Player becoming a Coach has to be willing to put in 80 - 100 hour weeks, travel all over the country 4 days a week (for games and recruiting all year long). Maybe Tomlin's cool with that but I don't see Lee and Sid doing that.

[prototype]

And don't forget salaries. These guys coached for less than what a manager at McDonalds makes, and two burger flippers.

[Fumblerooskies]

And don't forget salaries. These guys coached for less than what a manager at McDonalds makes, and two burger flippers.

Then getting the salary competitive will be part of drawing a top-notch coach. After that, the facility upgrades and lights.

[knobodywest]

Proto, that was not called for. Tomlin is not the reason Matt got fired, infact Randy could have buried Matt last year when he got called into Barbers office after the events last year, and He did not. Jeff Barber did a full investigation with the players who were asked at different times to come in for meetings, it was out of those meetings that Jerry and Jeff Barber made the decison to let Matt go. Matt is responsible for being let go, and nobody else is to blame. Jerry Falwel made wise decisons, and this was one of them. I wish you get your information from someone other then Matt. Matt was still coaching because Randy Tomlin was a buffer for Him constantly cleaning up His messes. I find it ironic, that once Randy left, things did not get better, but worse for Matt, and now He has been fired. You are still trying to blame Randy, if He was underminded Matt, constantly going behind His back, don't you think Jerry and Jeff would have picked up on that too! They had good reasons to let Matt go, I'm sorry they did not think to share the information with you for your approval. Let it go man. Trust Jeff Barber. the second part of your post is just not worth talking about. You really do have a problem with Randy Tomlin. It only proves what everyone on here already thought, that since Royer is the source of you bad information, He really did not like Randy Tomlin either.

[Fumblerooskies]

[Sly Fox]

I know its been dismissed already, but what about another LU alum who recently left Knoxville?

[SuperJon]

No chance.

I have a better chance of dating Elisha Cuthbert.

[Libertine]

Hey, you opened it up to innuendo and speculation.

[hurricane fan]

I think the kool aid container that prototype is drinking out of is marked "RD"

[Fumblerooskies]

Hey, you opened it up to innuendo and speculation.

Yes...but I was hoping for some civility...not a name calling contest. We're not here to talk about the past...but to look ahead.

[SuperJon]

I think the kool aid container that prototype is drinking out of is marked "RD"

Both coaches he has supported this year don't have a job currently.

[hurricane fan]

I think the kool aid container that prototype is drinking out of is marked "RD"

Both coaches he has supported this year don't have a job currently.

My thoughts exactly

[prototype]

SuperJon annd Hurricane - Does that mean I have to start supporting you????

[prototype]

I don't want to get on here and feel like I have to make a point. i am confident that all of you on this board will understand where I'm coming from one day. It has never been about only supporting Royer and Dunton - it has been about supporting my school. I have said it before - doesn't matter if I liked them or not - I would never support getting rid of someone unless it was completely valid. That is just who I am - I'm loyal. Now I want to win more than anyone, but I've been around college athletics my whole life and Dunton and Royer are not bad coaches. To read a board like this and see people rip on them like they know them and what they are going through or trying to achieive is hard for me. This is only a message board and i shouldn't take things to serious - but hey, I also have a thing for debating and have been known to stir up trouble also.

But there is one thing for sure. Players running a team has never and will never work. It's not a good formula. Matt is a great coach. Randy is a great coach. Both will land on there feet and get better jobs. And for the people who don't think Dunton will coach again - you better get ready to eat crow AGAIN. He is on the short list for 2 major programs.

Knowbodwest - Enjoy thise meals with the Tomlin's now, but I would refrain from talking about them in the future. The amount of times Tomlin had his players over was a NCAA violation and was told to stop, but didn't.

Enjoy your board - I'm taking a break with the Judge - until there is another coach at Fire (I mean Liberty) University that is getting wrongfully terminated.

[Libertine]

Sorry, Proto, but this ---

It has never been about only supporting Royer and Dunton - it has been about supporting my school.

--- followed by this ---

until there is another coach at Fire (I mean Liberty) University that is getting wrongfully terminated.

--- doesn't jibe. I understand that you're upset but your posts are getting increasingly petty.

[Chris Lang]

I would honestly be stunned if Randy Tomlin was in the mix for the head coaching job. I really think Barber will go outside the "LU family" for this hire. At least that's the impression I got from talking to him Friday. Tomlin may interview, but I just don't see him getting the job. I could be wrong, though.

[Rocketfan]

Sorry, Proto, but this ---

It has never been about only supporting Royer and Dunton - it has been about supporting my school.

--- followed by this ---

until there is another coach at Fire (I mean Liberty) University that is getting wrongfully terminated.

--- doesn't jibe. I understand that you're upset but your posts are getting increasingly petty.

In this thread and in this entire message board there are plenty of "petty" posters.....as long as your going to call them all out im cool with that ( if that is your opinion)

[Knucklehead]

It has never been about only supporting Royer and Dunton - it has been about supporting my school. I have said it before - doesn't matter if I liked them or not - I would never support getting rid of someone unless it was completely valid.

Since Dr. Falwell and others felt that Barber was the Man to lead the athletic department at the school you say you are supporting, maybe you should give the guy a chance to work his plan before jumping ship. It is ridiculous for ANY of us to assume we know all of the things that are going on in ANY of the programs on the mountain. The AD is privy to ALL kinds of information that you and I are not. Barber has a track record of improving programs through time, and needs to be allowed time to do so. Liberty has begun to go the direction of all successful D1 programs, and with that comes some less than savory personnel timelines.
Here is a question? Do you really want the LU sports programs to be top tier as Dr. Falwell did? If you don't, then I understand your support of old school coaches and practices. If you want to be at the top then buckle up, we are only in the class 3 rapids right now with class 6 somewhere in the future. The hope is that we climb the ladder with as much dignity and Christian ethic as possible. So far so good. Neither of the coach firings you refer to were completely without logical reasons.

Just my humble opinion! Hope I didn't get any of my spew on you!

[Libertine]

Sorry, Proto, but this ---

It has never been about only supporting Royer and Dunton - it has been about supporting my school.

--- followed by this ---

until there is another coach at Fire (I mean Liberty) University that is getting wrongfully terminated.

--- doesn't jibe. I understand that you're upset but your posts are getting increasingly petty.

In this thread and in this entire message board there are plenty of "petty" posters.....as long as your going to call them all out im cool with that ( if that is your opinion)

Nope, just Proto.
What do you care who I call out, Rocket? At least till I get to you, anyway?

Personally, I don't have any dog in the baseball fight. I've met Royer exactly one time and I never met Tomlin at all. But, for someone to come on here saying they "support my school" and then take shots at the AD, the coaches of other programs and "Fire (I mean Liberty) University" at large, followed by packing up their laptop and stomping off in a huff, yeah, that's petty. I could have gone with 'juvenile', 'childish', 'adolescent', 'purile', 'piddling', 'shallow' or just plain 'weak', but I've got a thing for 'Tank Girl' so 'petty' it is.

[bigsmooth]

AGREED LIB. cmon proto, your'e better than that. i have asked for you guys to keep it clean and the royer backers are the one ones who continue to fuel the fire. if you are a true LU supporter, put aside all this stuff and support jeff barber to make the best hire. again, has he given us reason to doubt him yet?