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Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 17th, 2014, 4:42 pm
by BJWilliams
Flames kick off the second season at Liberty Baseball Stadium welcoming in an in-state rival in the Monarchs (Flames swept the two meetings last year 6-2 and 17-10). I'll defer to Sly to pretty it up.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 17th, 2014, 7:57 pm
by Cider Jim
Buying my season tickets tomorrow!
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 6:32 pm
by VAGolf
Down 6-3 to Old Dominion. They're coming off a 30-24 year out of the Colonial, and they're 1-2 to start the year.
So, 4 games into baseball season and I'm already disappointed.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 6:56 pm
by PAmedic
FINAL:
ODU 7- LU 4
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 6:59 pm
by BJWilliams
Not gonna win many games stranding 12 runners on base including bases loaded...what...twice?
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 7:01 pm
by JakeP50
That one was tough, but you cant leave that many on base and expect to win. (Someone please tell the Orioles that). The pitching didn't seem to bad other than that one big inning but 1-3 is still 1-3
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 7:24 pm
by jinxy
First time seeing the 2014 flames in person so here are my initial thoughts. We really miss wimmer and aanderaud. Both positions are going to be a problem in my opinion. Keranen is going to be a rock solid player and has a great approach. He needs to move up in the lineup. Britt looks much better at the plate. I actually think he can be the 3b for us but he needs to get his footwork down and learn positioning. Seiz is as good a hitter as advertised. His bat cant be lost in the double switch scenario. Roberts is really athletic and will be a good player for us. Not sure hes ready yet. To throw mid 9's graeur cant get the ball to 2nd and struggles blocking the ball. We've been spoiled for the last decade with excellent catching. We really need close to hit and catch like hes capable of so we can put the other pieces in place. Were pitching well enough to win but we have to tighten up and toman haa to figure out the lineup.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 7:40 pm
by krh44
wow I don't think any of us were expecting a 1-3 start. Hopefully we will turn it around soon...
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 8:21 pm
by SuperJon
This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. We are good at throwing the ball. Gotta learn how to catch it and hit it.
Or hope for rain.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 8:30 pm
by Cider Jim
^ Crash Davis ^
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 9:12 pm
by newoldschool17
Jinxy, you are right, we need Close to hit, but not catch. He is the worst defensive catcher of the whole bunch, and will hurt us more than he will help behind the plate. I know this isn't the best answer, but Grauer is our best option back there with Stankey and occasionally Close giving him a break.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 9:30 pm
by Chris Lang
Close played first today and hasn't caught since the opener. Perritt made a bad decision on the bases-loaded double play ball. Baseball season is way too long to make snap decisions on a four-game sample.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 10:19 pm
by Chippy
Chris Lang wrote:Close played first today and hasn't caught since the opener. Perritt made a bad decision on the bases-loaded double play ball. Baseball season is way too long to make snap decisions on a four-game sample.
. . ya, should have gone home to first with the comebacker. Catcher has the responsibility to communicate that to him in that situation prior ever throwing a pitch. It' simple situational baseball in which everyone has to keep each other accountable and in the game. In the infield it's typically the catcher. Fulghum is a battler. We need to reward him with a clean game next time out.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 18th, 2014, 10:58 pm
by jinxy
Forgot about sanckey and barbee. Havent seen either enough. All i know is we cant keep losing seizs bat at the end of games in the double switch to perritt. His spot came up with bases loaded and 1 out. Were hitting and getting runners on. Just need the timely hitting. I think the bats will be fine. Really worried about our defense at catcher second and third.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 9:09 am
by ballcoach15
There is still time to fix the defense and lack of hitting with runners on base.
Maybe when we get runners on, we should go to the "short game". bunting, hit-n-run, and stealing.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 10:49 am
by SuperJon
I've gone into this season giving Coach Toman the benefit of the doubt, and for the most part he's done a good job trying to get everything figured out lineup wise. My only criticism would be yesterday and the double switch. You have to know your lineup going in and if Perritt's live that day you have to plan accordingly. There's no way we should sacrifice our best hitter for our closer, especially when we're not even winning.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 11:08 am
by ballcoach15
Good post SuperJon
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 11:33 am
by BJWilliams
I had a thought about something to do but I will frame it in a question: Would it have been a wise call to go for a squeeze play in either of the bases loaded situations yesterday?
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 12:21 pm
by jinxy
No we need seiz playing first so he doesnt come out of the game in the dh spot. Graeur or close should be the dhing. Ive seen seiz enough to see he is a legit 3 hole hitter. He was that lefty bat we desp needed the last few years.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 6:33 pm
by Trottalot
jinxy wrote:No we need seiz playing first so he doesnt come out of the game in the dh spot. Graeur or close should be the dhing. Ive seen seiz enough to see he is a legit 3 hole hitter. He was that lefty bat we desp needed the last few years.
I'm with you jinxy. I blame Toman for this loss along with all the rest of them to come. He has no clue how to make a lineup or who to put in the lineup. You do not take out your best hitter; and leave two guys in the lineup that are hitting well below .180 just because they are "captains". If your not hitting, you shouldn't be playing.
The attendance of this game was shown at over 1100. This number is tickets sold I guess. In the pictures and the video, there is less than 300 people "in the seats". That is just sad for a season opener at a nice stadium like that.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 19th, 2014, 11:19 pm
by Lburglifer
Trottalot wrote:jinxy wrote:No we need seiz playing first so he doesnt come out of the game in the dh spot. Graeur or close should be the dhing. Ive seen seiz enough to see he is a legit 3 hole hitter. He was that lefty bat we desp needed the last few years.
I'm with you jinxy. I blame Toman for this loss along with all the rest of them to come. He has no clue how to make a lineup or who to put in the lineup. You do not take out your best hitter; and leave two guys in the lineup that are hitting well below .180 just because they are "captains". If your not hitting, you shouldn't be playing.
The attendance of this game was shown at over 1100. This number is tickets sold I guess. In the pictures and the video, there is less than 300 people "in the seats". That is just sad for a season opener at a nice stadium like that.
Come to expect the inflated numbers from this athletic administration!
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 20th, 2014, 12:51 am
by BJWilliams
Oh God he's here too...and he brought Trott with him...where were you when we were in the NCAA Regionals bro?
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 20th, 2014, 11:00 am
by Chippy
Lburglifer wrote:Trottalot wrote:jinxy wrote:No we need seiz playing first so he doesnt come out of the game in the dh spot. Graeur or close should be the dhing. Ive seen seiz enough to see he is a legit 3 hole hitter. He was that lefty bat we desp needed the last few years.
I'm with you jinxy. I blame Toman for this loss along with all the rest of them to come. He has no clue how to make a lineup or who to put in the lineup. You do not take out your best hitter; and leave two guys in the lineup that are hitting well below .180 just because they are "captains". If your not hitting, you shouldn't be playing.
The attendance of this game was shown at over 1100. This number is tickets sold I guess. In the pictures and the video, there is less than 300 people "in the seats". That is just sad for a season opener at a nice stadium like that.
Come to expect the inflated numbers from this athletic administration!
It seemed there were a good 600-700 in the seats at any one time. Students came and went throughout the game as some were wearing shorts, etc and it was not shorts weather.
Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 20th, 2014, 5:43 pm
by Trottalot
BJWilliams wrote:Oh God he's here too...and he brought Trott with him...where were you when we were in the NCAA Regionals bro?
I was watching USC (Toman's old school that didn't want him back) beat up on the Flames 19-3

Re: Game #4: Old Dominion
Posted: February 20th, 2014, 6:22 pm
by BJWilliams
Not a word of congratulations on making it though? Youre worse that LBL (and that's saying something)