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Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 11th, 2013, 11:54 am
by Sly Fox
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West Virginia University
Morgantown, West Virginia



WVU Baseball Official Site


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Randy Mazey
1st Season as WVU Head Coach



2013 Schedule/Results
  • Overall ... 18-16
    Big XII ..... 4-5
    Road ........ 6-9
  • Feb 15 - @ North Florida ................................................. L, 0-4
    Feb 16 - @ North Florida ................................................. L, 6-7
    Feb 17 - @ North Florida ................................................. W, 4-3
    Feb 22 - vs. Youngstown State in Winston-Salem, NC .......... L, 7-10
    Feb 23 - vs. Youngstown State in Winston-Salem, NC .......... W, 7-3
    Feb 23 - @ Wake Forest ................................................. W, 9-2
    Feb 24 - @ Wake Forest ................................................. L, 3-11

    Caravelle Resort Baseball at the Beach Tournament in Myrtle Beach
    Mar 01 - vs. Indiana ...................................................... L, 5-8
    Mar 02 - vs. UMBC ........................................................ W, 4-0
    Mar 03 - vs. Florida Atlantic ............................................ L, 5-6

    Mar 05 - Eastern Kentucky ............................................. W, 2-1
    Mar 07 - vs. Bowling Green in Pt Charlotte, FL .................... W, 8-2
    Mar 08 - vs. Central Michigan in Pt Charlotte, FL ................. L, 1-4
    Mar 09 - vs. Maine in Pt Charlotte, FL ............................... L, 1-2 (12 innings)
    Mar 10 - vs. Iowa in Pt Charlotte, FL ................................ L, 4-6 (12 innings)
    Mar 12 - @ Pitt ............................................................ W, 8-7
    Mar 15 - @ Kansas State* ............................................. W, 13-2
    Mar 16 - @ Kansas State* ............................................. L, 5-6
    Mar 17 - @ Kansas State* ............................................. L, 3-4
    Mar 19 - vs. Marshall in Charleston, WV ............................ L, 0-8
    Mar 22 - vs. Texas Tech* in Charleston, WV ..................... W, 2-0
    Mar 23 - vs. Texas Tech* in Charleston, WV ..................... L, 4-6 (10 innings)
    Mar 23 - vs. Texas Tech* in Charleston, WV ..................... W, 3-1
    Mar 26 - @ Eastern Kentucky ......................................... W, 16-9
    Mar 28 - New Orleans ................................................... W, 11-2
    Mar 29 - New Orleans ................................................... W, 12-2
    Mar 30 - New Orleans ................................................... W, 5-1
    Mar 30 - New Orleans ................................................... W, 4-3
    Apr 02 - Marshall ......................................................... W, 10-2
    Apr 05 - @ Baylor* ...................................................... W, 9-8
    Apr 06 - @ Baylor* ...................................................... L, 0-8
    Apr 07 - @ Baylor* ...................................................... L, 1-11 (7 innings)
    Apr 09 - @ Ohio State .................................................. L, 0-9
    Apr 10 - Youngstown State ........................................... W, 5-1
    Apr 12 - @ Liberty ....................................................... 7:00 p.m.
    Apr 13 - @ Liberty ....................................................... 4:00 p.m.
    Apr 14 - @ Liberty ....................................................... 2:00 p.m.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 12th, 2013, 9:22 pm
by krh44
Down6-0 in 8th, getting hard to watch.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 12th, 2013, 9:25 pm
by krh44
8-0..............

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 12th, 2013, 9:37 pm
by thepostman
So how did we turn into a team that at least could compete to a team that doesn't show up???

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 12th, 2013, 9:50 pm
by PAmedic
mental fortitude

see; lack thereof

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 1:34 am
by jinxy
These last 3 weeks have been embarassing. If this is what Liberty baseball is headed to then we are on a sinking ship. Alex is a great kid and embodies everything we like at LU but he is hitting .168 with 6 rbis and it's April 12th. It's time to give somone else a chance and give Alex a few days or a series to clear his head. Baseball is such a mental game and your confidence erodes and that's where Alex is. Who knows maybe you find another kid that can produce like Perritt is. Lacik didn't even have an extra base hit all year and Perritt already hit 2 homers and a double in 4 or 5 starts and he's way faster.

What on earth has happened to the pitching staff. Marsh was a key cog but the entire staff has just went in the toilet with the exception of Perritt the last 3 weeks. Is Grant hurt??? I mean Toman won't even give him a chance to throw and he was the big south newcomer of the year or whatever. Why waste his freshman year for 3 innings. If he's hurt then I'm dead wrong but i haven't heard a word to that nature.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 7:50 am
by Trottalot
Watched the game on ESPN3 last night. Another loss for Toman...Yaaaa!!!! Come on Liberty Fans; you guys deserve way better than this guy. You guys should be outraged at the results of this coaching staff. The AD's phone should not stop ringing from Flame Fans demanding his immediate firing. 8-0 loss to West Virginia; please, and this is "competing", I think not.
I have to agree with Jinxy on this one... Playing a kid all the time with a .168 average is just poor judgement and shows this coach knows nothing about winning. He should view the rest of the games from the dugout; as he has two more years to try to figure it out maybe. Just how much money has to be donated to the new stadium to play all the time with those numbers?
Toman is a joke....demand better Liberty Fans... Better... Not stupidity!!!

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:13 am
by Chippy
We had 8 guys bat over .300 last year and our ERA was 3.04. Funny how much change can happen in a year's time with the same coach :dontgetit

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:17 am
by SuperJon
The coaches who actually coached the players to those batting averages and ERA's aren't there anymore.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:20 am
by PAmedic
blood in the water now.

but SJ answered my question.

is it Toman or lack of a staff? then again- that's his responsibility too so does it really matter?

something has to change.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:29 am
by Chippy
SuperJon wrote:The coaches who actually coached the players to those batting averages and ERA's aren't there anymore.
Who's coaching Wimmer -His average is up 100 points?

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:39 am
by SuperJon
He's healthy and a 5th year senior. He's got the benefit of maturity and knowing what the guys in the past have coached him to do.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 9:42 am
by SuperJon
PAmedic wrote:is it Toman or lack of a staff?
Both. Toman's philosophy is that if he gets good enough talent, we will win. He doesn't actually coach the talent once it's here.

He also doesn't think you can win with Christian players because they're soft. That mindset and some of the guys he's brought in is what has led to the locker room issues that are spilling out onto the field.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 11:05 am
by Chippy
SuperJon wrote:
PAmedic wrote:is it Toman or lack of a staff?
Both. Toman's philosophy is that if he gets good enough talent, we will win. He doesn't actually coach the talent once it's here.

He also doesn't think you can win with Christian players because they're soft. That mindset and some of the guys he's brought in is what has led to the locker room issues that are spilling out onto the field.
When did you have that conversation with him where he told you what he thinks?

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 11:27 am
by SuperJon
I am friends with quite a few guys who have played for Toman. The things that they can tell you about the program and what Toman thinks and allows would astound you. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 11:52 am
by Trottalot
That's just it SJ... He doesn't know the difference between a good player and an under proforming one. Yea it's well known that he doesn't do any coaching, as his trophy case is empty to prove it.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 11:55 am
by Chippy
SuperJon wrote:I am friends with quite a few guys who have played for Toman. The things that they can tell you about the program and what Toman thinks and allows would astound you. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
If this is such common knowledge then I guess JB is aware of this and will take appropriate action so it's just a matter of time before you can apply for the job and look forward to all the armchair coaches criticisms here :D

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 12:11 pm
by SuperJon
It's not just me:

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Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 1:01 pm
by SuperJon
Chippy wrote:
SuperJon wrote:I am friends with quite a few guys who have played for Toman. The things that they can tell you about the program and what Toman thinks and allows would astound you. That's just the tip of the iceberg.
If this is such common knowledge then I guess JB is aware of this and will take appropriate action so it's just a matter of time before you can apply for the job and look forward to all the armchair coaches criticisms here :D
Just saw this. It's gonna take more than Barber to get rid of Toman. They're buddies and have been buddies since JB was at SC. It doesn't matter what reports make it to his desk in regards to baseball. If Toman comes back and tells a different story, he listens to Toman. It'll take Jr stepping in (which has almost happened already) or Toman getting another job (which he's looking for).

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 4:15 pm
by SumItUp
Watching the game on ESPN3. WVU gets 1 in the top of the 1st.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 4:21 pm
by SumItUp
1-1 after 1. I really enjoy listening to Alan and Nick. They do a great job.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 5:23 pm
by SumItUp
Liberty leads 3-1 after 5.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 6:28 pm
by SuperJon
Good win today.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 6:45 pm
by Flamepop
SuperJon wrote:
PAmedic wrote:is it Toman or lack of a staff?
Both. Toman's philosophy is that if he gets good enough talent, we will win. He doesn't actually coach the talent once it's here.

He also doesn't think you can win with Christian players because they're soft. That mindset and some of the guys he's brought in is what has led to the locker room issues that are spilling out onto the field.
You have no sense of morals do you. The truth and you are strangers. You have admitted you lied before and you keep it up constantly. You have zero credibility.

Re: Games #35-37: West Virginia

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 7:12 pm
by Purple Haize
Flamepop wrote:
SuperJon wrote:
PAmedic wrote:is it Toman or lack of a staff?
Both. Toman's philosophy is that if he gets good enough talent, we will win. He doesn't actually coach the talent once it's here.

He also doesn't think you can win with Christian players because they're soft. That mindset and some of the guys he's brought in is what has led to the locker room issues that are spilling out onto the field.
You have no sense of morals do you. The truth and you are strangers. You have admitted you lied before and you keep it up constantly. You have zero credibility.
Where is this admission of flasehood?