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wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 2:24 pm
by larrymac1946
i wonder who recruited those players who were on that team that won the college world series last night? at least 17 of them............ congratulations coach, i appreciate your effort.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 2:57 pm
by Hold My Own
Is anyone really dumb enough to question his recruiting abilities? Even those who arent fans of Toman couldnt question that....he's one of the best.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 5:17 pm
by BJWilliams
I certainly dont question coach Toman's recruiting abilities and send my congrats to Coach Tanner and the Gamecocks on their win last night...but was there any point in posting that?
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 6:20 pm
by Cider Jim
Read the fine print, BJ:
larrymac1946 wrote:congratulations coach, i appreciate your effort.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 8:56 pm
by JK37
Congrats to Monte Lee, too!
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 9:40 pm
by BJWilliams
Cider Jim wrote:Read the fine print, BJ:
larrymac1946 wrote:congratulations coach, i appreciate your effort.
I saw that...but I still wondered if there was any point in posting that other than to massage his own ego because the two happen to be related and to get under the skin of any anti-Toman folks who may read it
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 10:47 pm
by Hold My Own
I assumed it was a message to any of the anti Toman people on the board and that was the point of their post. Like I said, even those who might be considered "anti Toman" couldnt say he's not a good recruiter (I dont think, but I've been surprised before by responses...it's what keeps this place interesting)

Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 11:04 pm
by SuperJon
Hold My Own wrote:Is anyone really dumb enough to question his recruiting abilities? Even those who arent fans of Toman couldnt question that....he's one of the best.
You're exactly right. He's a great recruiter.
Ken Karcher was pretty good at that too.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 11:35 pm
by prototype
SuperJon wrote:Hold My Own wrote:Is anyone really dumb enough to question his recruiting abilities? Even those who arent fans of Toman couldnt question that....he's one of the best.
You're exactly right. He's a great recruiter.
Ken Karcher was pretty good at that too.
OUCH...
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 11:52 pm
by Hold My Own
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: June 30th, 2010, 11:54 pm
by SuperJon
I was just showing getting talent doesn't necessarily mean you know how to manage and use it. Obviously Toman is better than Karcher but the point is the same.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 12:00 am
by Hold My Own
It was funny....I only mentioned it because the poster was using recruiting as the point in the argument but I really cant recall anyone putting the talent that he recruits into question.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 7:56 am
by JK37
A lot of fans put various coaches into categories such as "Recruiter" or "X-and-O Coach". To me, a coach should be a master of both. But, its normal that one or the other comes more naturally.
In that case, I'd rather be more of a recruiter than a strategist.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 2:35 pm
by Schfourteenteen
JK37 wrote:A lot of fans put various coaches into categories such as "Recruiter" or "X-and-O Coach". To me, a coach should be a master of both. But, its normal that one or the other comes more naturally.
In that case, I'd rather be more of a recruiter than a strategist.
At least in the college game. And the NBA for this summer.
And both of those skills hinge on a coach's ability to communicate.
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 2:43 pm
by larrymac1946
i just posted that for information sake..........i don't have a need to have my ego stroked. but by now i figured that i would have my salvation called into question. some of the posters on here have really made me question why i like liberty so. i sing it's praises everywhere i go, but after seeing how some on here feel the need to question other folks salvation in an open forum , i am going to tone down my praise a bit. all of the people i had met in lynchburg and at liberty had impressed me and i had even made the comment that if i was a younger man i might would have wanted to move there. after seeing the topic before this one though i think i would just as soon stay around the self-righteous, holier than anyone, judge not, people that i already know. i had a load of verses that i was going to list, but i decided that those who needed to hear them either didn't care, didn't know them, or had already re-read their posts and were convicted by them.
i really don't want conflict and i am going to try to stay out of all of this, probably should have never joined in, but can't seem to sit still when i read a man's salvation questioned . it really doesn't matter whether i am related or not. ask yourself how would you feel if someone wrote this of you.
how would your wife and children feel if your salvation, something only GOD knows for sure, is questioned by someone as simple as a .........mortal man?..........or do some us of think of ourselves as more than a sinner saved by grace? ..... maybe a judge of mankind?
GOD BLESS YOU EVERYONE! LARRY
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 4:11 pm
by JK37
Schfourteenteen wrote:And both of those skills hinge on a coach's ability to communicate.
You've realized what 75% of young coaches just don't get now, and sadly may never learn.
Recruiting = success ???
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 4:33 pm
by The Natural
In baseball terms this is a 3-0 fastball with bases loaded right down the middle. Nah I think I'll pass and just smile a bit !!
Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 1st, 2010, 5:26 pm
by Hold My Own
Green Light

Re: wonder who??????????
Posted: July 8th, 2010, 4:51 pm
by LUnpretty11
larrymac1946 wrote:i just posted that for information sake..........i don't have a need to have my ego stroked. but by now i figured that i would have my salvation called into question. some of the posters on here have really made me question why i like liberty so. i sing it's praises everywhere i go, but after seeing how some on here feel the need to question other folks salvation in an open forum , i am going to tone down my praise a bit. all of the people i had met in lynchburg and at liberty had impressed me and i had even made the comment that if i was a younger man i might would have wanted to move there. after seeing the topic before this one though i think i would just as soon stay around the self-righteous, holier than anyone, judge not, people that i already know. i had a load of verses that i was going to list, but i decided that those who needed to hear them either didn't care, didn't know them, or had already re-read their posts and were convicted by them.
i really don't want conflict and i am going to try to stay out of all of this, probably should have never joined in, but can't seem to sit still when i read a man's salvation questioned . it really doesn't matter whether i am related or not. ask yourself how would you feel if someone wrote this of you.
how would your wife and children feel if your salvation, something only GOD knows for sure, is questioned by someone as simple as a .........mortal man?..........or do some us of think of ourselves as more than a sinner saved by grace? ..... maybe a judge of mankind?
GOD BLESS YOU EVERYONE! LARRY
I'm not sure what this is in reference to, but I have an idea who it's related to. I agree 100% that no one has the right to judge someone else, because as you said, "we're all sinful men".
In regards to questioning someone else's salvation, that is not unbiblical. Judging it is. Questioning is not, as long as it is done in a loving manner (out of concern). In this instance, I don't think it was done out of love, but that's not for me to judge someone else's motives. Basically my point, is that we, as Christians (if we proclaim Christ), should be living in such a way that will not allow anyone to ever question who we belong to. Christ should be so evident in our lives that we should be able to walk into a grocery store and have people see Christ oozing out of us. If someone can't tell whether or not another person is saved... that's not on the looking, but the looked upon. If people look at my life, and cannot tell that I am a Christian, that's my fault. And I would be ticked if someone didn't confront me about it.
p.s. Don't place whether or not you're going to move on the shoulders of a couple of people your upset with on a message board. Don't let a couple people outweigh 100.