[omaha10]

pro- I have not talked to toman about anything- he probably doesn't even know this forum exist! He is a baseball guy and all he is intersted in is winning ballgames, not what fans think, as they all have their own opinions. He is at LU to win ballgames, not to make every fan happy by playing their favorite player or son- you really get bent out of shape when something comes up about former staff. A little advise: GET OVER IT!!!! I am sure that he is doing the best with what he inherited. I have been to a few games and it is par as far as talent goes. I am sure that they are a great group and want to win, but the need for a winning attitude is evident. If I know coach that is what he is preaching that to them on the daily basis- you can tell that they have not experienced it that much. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out players and their make-up. He may be able to shift around some of them, but you can only hide them for so long-

[omaha10]

Pro- it is possible to know baseball without talking to coaches, on any level. I base my opinions on what I see, not necessarily what I read and hear. I just understand the scholorship process more than most. I have been to games, and have seen the countless errors, and non-prodcution of the hitters. Every team goes through this, or at least most of them do- so don't take everything so personal. You need to have some fun!

[cwsfan3]

Omaha- you are right: very interesting group here in the flame. Good Luck to Liberty this weekend. I agree with you about Coach Toman and this board. Those who know him know he gives no extra time to these forums- he is all about winning baseball games- maybe you can snatch a few wins this weekend-

[prototype]

ohama - I said nothing about former coaches, so I'm not sure what I'm being quick about. I'm defending those guys out there playing the game. These are the same guys that won 36 games last year and played a tougher schedule. Our players are not par - AG is a great player - yes, he's hurt, but he's still played in 22 of the 26 games / Garret Young was third in the Big South last year in hitting - BA of .359, 22 Xtra base hits, 46 RBI / Negron was 5th - BA of .354, only 18 SO and 15 SB / Keller was 16th - BA of .328 / Giammaresi - 5th in the league with 17 doubles / Umberger - Clearly one of the best pitchers in the Big South / Stokes 6th in the BSC last year in wins with 8 / Clarence Nicely - a transfer from Auburn who was successful there (before you dispute that - here is his line against your USC team in a 2 inning relief appearance in 05 - Clarence Nicely ........... 2.0 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 8 9 2 2 41.

I have posted the roster from this year and last (really 3 difference makers - Nanry, Gaillard and John, the only one that would have help the fielding problems would be Gaillard)- you will see there is not much difference in the roster of a 36 win team. The talent is there - you can argue that the talent is not as good as USC and the level of the SEC, but I can argue that the Big South is not the SEC.

2008 Roster:
1 Kenneth Negron 2B/OF Junior L/R 5-9 175 Kingwood, Texas
3 Tommy Bussey INF/RHP Junior R/R 5-11 180 Boynton Beach, Fla.
4 Cody Brown INF/RHP Junior R/R 6-2 215 Boca Raton, Fla.
5 Aaron Grijalva 1B Senior R/R 6-1 200 Redlands, Calif.
6 Aaron Phillips INF Senior R/R 6-2 200 Claremore, Okla.
7 David Giammaresi INF Senior S/R 6-0 205 Coral Springs, Fla.
9 Jeff Jefferson OF/C Freshman R/R 6-0 210 Danville, Va.
10 Jason Love C/1B Sophomore R/R 6-1 220 Juneau, Alaska
11 Doug Wallace LHP Junior L/L 6-2 185 Hurricane, W. Va.
12 Chase Vaden LHP Sophomore L/L 6-4 195 Lynch Station, Va.
13 Dane Beakler RHP Sophomore R/R 6-3 185 York, Pa.
14 Doug Bream 1B/OF Freshman L/L 6-2 210 Elizabethtown, Pa.
15 Joseph Feeley OF Freshman R/R 5-10 175 Chesapeake City, Md.
16 Andrew Wilson RHP Junior R/R 6-1 175 Cary, N.C.
17 Dustin Umberger RHP Junior R/R 6-0 195 Hummelstown, Pa.
18 Grady Ihnat LHP Sophomore L/L 5-10 200 Simi Valley, Calif.
19 P.K. Keller OF Senior R/R 5-11 195 Clearwater, Fla.
20 Philip Locklear C Freshman R/R 5-11 175 Concord, N.C.
21 Steven Evans LHP Freshman L/L 6-4 185 Amherst, Va.
22 Rusty LaJoie RHP Freshman L/R 6-0 190 Chesapeake, Va.
23 Nathan Thompson C Sophomore R/R 6-3 205215 Stoneville, N.C.
24 Shawn Teufel 1B Junior L/L 6-3 200 Tequesta, Fla.
25 Brett Curll RHP Sophomore R/R 6-2 190 Virginia Beach, Va.
27 Jimmy Miller RHP Freshman R/R 6-2 220 Hummelstown, Pa.
28 Clarence Nicely RHP Junior R/R 6-6 230 Milton, W. Va.
29 Errol Hollinger C Junior R/R 6-4 205 Upland, Calif.
30 Tim Rotola OF Junior L/R 6-1 175 Wichita, Kan.
31 Tyler Light RHP Junior R/R 6-3 190 San Bernardino, Calif.
32 Aaron Parnell INF Freshman R/R 5-10 180 Benson, N.C.
33 Garrett Young OF Senior R/R 6-3 230 Fountain Valley, Calif.
34 Ryan Page LHP Senior L/L 6-3 205 Cranberry Township, Pa.
42 David Stokes RHP Senior L/R 6-8 245 Locust Grove, Okla.
46 Joe Steinwedell RHP Sophomore R/R 6-4 225 Encinitas, Calif.

2007 Roster:
1 Kenneth Negron OF Sophomore R/R 5-8 168 Kingwood, Texas
3 Tommy Bussey INF Sophomore R/R 5-11 180 Boynton Beach, Fla.
4 Cody Brown RHP R-Sophomore R/R 6-2 210 Boca Raton, Fla.
5 Aaron Grijalva 1B R-Junior R/R 6-1 195 Redlands, Calif.
6 Aaron Phillips INF Junior R/R 6-2 190 Claremore, Okla.
7 David Giammaresi INF R-Junior S/R 6-0 195 Coral Springs, Fla.
8 Derek Bennion OF R-Senior R/R 5-10 180 Snohomish, Wash.
9 David McCall INF Sophomore R/R 5-8 150 Newton, Pa.
10 Patrick Gaillard SS Senior R/R 6-1 185 Taylors, S.C.
11 Doug Wallace LHP Sophomore L/L 6-2 175 Hurricane, W. Va.
12 Shawn Teufel 1B Sophomore L/L 6-2 185 Tequesta, Fla.
13 Dane Beakler RHP Sophomore R/R 6-3 190 York, Pa.
15 Cory Johnson C Freshman R/R 6-0 190 Lake Worth, Fla.
16 Andrew Wilson RHP Sophomore R/R 6-1 165 Cary, N.C.
17 Dustin Umberger RHP Sophomore R/R 6-0 180 Hummelstown, Pa.
18 Grady Ihnat LHP Freshman R/R 5-10 205 Simi Valley, Calif.
19 P.K. Keller OF Junior R/R 5-10 180 Clearwater, Fla.
20 Jonathan Schneider OF Freshman R/R 6-1 185 Sarasota, Fla.
22 Tim John RHP Senior R/R 6-1 205 Linwood, N.J.
23 Nate Thompson C R-Freshman R/R 6-2 205 Stoneville, N.C.
26 Andrew Weaver INF Freshman R/R 5-10 180 Weyers Cave, Va.
27 Tim Nanry OF Senior R/R 6-3 225 Rochester, N.Y.
28 Clarence Nicely RHP Junior R/R 6-6 230 Milton, W. Va.
29 Errol Hollinger C Sophomore R/R 6-4 200 Upland, Calif.
30 Phil John OF Senior L/R 6-2 185 Linwood, N.J.
31 Tyler Light RHP Sophomore R/R 6-3 190 San Bernardino, Calif.
32 Chase Vaden LHP Freshman L/L 6-4 190 Lynch Station, Va.
33 Garrett Young OF Junior R/R 6-3 225 Fountain Valley, Calif.
34 Ryan Page LHP Junior L/L 6-3 205 Cranberry Township, Pa.
36 Jason Love C Freshman R/R 6-1 205 Juneau, Alaska
38 Michael Solbach RHP R-Junior R/R 6-3 200 Woodbridge, Va.
42 David Stokes RHP Junior R/R 6-8 230 Locust Grove, Okla.
52 Rusty Lajoie RHP Freshman R/R 6-0 190 Chesapeake, Va.

[prototype]

Omaha- you are right: very interesting group here in the flame. Good Luck to Liberty this weekend. I agree with you about Coach Toman and this board. Those who know him know he gives no extra time to these forums- he is all about winning baseball games- maybe you can snatch a few wins this weekend-

Thanks for visiting the board Coach Toman Please come back and post anytime.

[prototype]

Pro- it is possible to know baseball without talking to coaches, on any level. I base my opinions on what I see, not necessarily what I read and hear. I just understand the scholorship process more than most. I have been to games, and have seen the countless errors, and non-prodcution of the hitters. Every team goes through this, or at least most of them do- so don't take everything so personal. You need to have some fun!

I know a few coaches myself too and players I'm not saying you didn't know anything about the scholarship process, I was just explaining a common process at Liberty that you might not have been aware of. I'm not taking anything personal:) Just posting on a board - I thought you were supposed to have discussions in a forum? I'm having fun - just not to sure the players are, reading about how bad the talent on the field is, especially from a friend of Toman's. Just feel that they will not get better hearing that and I would like to see my friends on the field get their confidence back!

[Sly Fox]

All right, this has all gone on far too long. In the interest of free speech I have tolerated way too much of this chatter. But it is time the forum grew up.

I can think of no compelling reason to be dragging Coach Royer's name through the mud by some on here while others do the same to Coach Toman. Coach Royer poured his heart into the school and the program and for that he has my respect. To kick a man while he is down is not only poor taste but against the foundations our school was built on. And to hammer on a new coach who is trying to shape the program into his image during some growing pains is just as bad. The honeymoon period by fans has seldom been shorter for a coach than what we've experienced recently.

I am asking ... no imploring everyone to stop the personal attacks of both men and each other immediately. I think I speak for many on here who dread coming into the baseball or mens hoops forums anymore. This place was built to be an outlet to discuss the Flames and not to drag people's reputations through the mud. Obviously this goes for the basketball talk as well. And is it too much to ask to keep the two topics separate?

I am not locking any threads right now because I believe deep down that we can be mature enough to act responsibly. Don't let me down.

[omaha10]

ohama - I said nothing about former coaches, so I'm not sure what I'm being quick about. I'm defending those guys out there playing the game. These are the same guys that won 36 games last year and played a tougher schedule. Our players are not par - AG is a great player - yes, he's hurt, but he's still played in 22 of the 26 games / Garret Young was third in the Big South last year in hitting - BA of .359, 22 Xtra base hits, 46 RBI / Negron was 5th - BA of .354, only 18 SO and 15 SB / Keller was 16th - BA of .328 / Giammaresi - 5th in the league with 17 doubles / Umberger - Clearly one of the best pitchers in the Big South / Stokes 6th in the BSC last year in wins with 8 / Clarence Nicely - a transfer from Auburn who was successful there (before you dispute that - here is his line against your USC team in a 2 inning relief appearance in 05 - Clarence Nicely ........... 2.0 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 8 9 2 2 41.

I have posted the roster from this year and last (really 3 difference makers - Nanry, Gaillard and John, the only one that would have help the fielding problems would be Gaillard)- you will see there is not much difference in the roster of a 36 win team. The talent is there - you can argue that the talent is not as good as USC and the level of the SEC, but I can argue that the Big South is not the SEC.

2008 Roster:
1 Kenneth Negron 2B/OF Junior L/R 5-9 175 Kingwood, Texas
3 Tommy Bussey INF/RHP Junior R/R 5-11 180 Boynton Beach, Fla.
4 Cody Brown INF/RHP Junior R/R 6-2 215 Boca Raton, Fla.
5 Aaron Grijalva 1B Senior R/R 6-1 200 Redlands, Calif.
6 Aaron Phillips INF Senior R/R 6-2 200 Claremore, Okla.
7 David Giammaresi INF Senior S/R 6-0 205 Coral Springs, Fla.
9 Jeff Jefferson OF/C Freshman R/R 6-0 210 Danville, Va.
10 Jason Love C/1B Sophomore R/R 6-1 220 Juneau, Alaska
11 Doug Wallace LHP Junior L/L 6-2 185 Hurricane, W. Va.
12 Chase Vaden LHP Sophomore L/L 6-4 195 Lynch Station, Va.
13 Dane Beakler RHP Sophomore R/R 6-3 185 York, Pa.
14 Doug Bream 1B/OF Freshman L/L 6-2 210 Elizabethtown, Pa.
15 Joseph Feeley OF Freshman R/R 5-10 175 Chesapeake City, Md.
16 Andrew Wilson RHP Junior R/R 6-1 175 Cary, N.C.
17 Dustin Umberger RHP Junior R/R 6-0 195 Hummelstown, Pa.
18 Grady Ihnat LHP Sophomore L/L 5-10 200 Simi Valley, Calif.
19 P.K. Keller OF Senior R/R 5-11 195 Clearwater, Fla.
20 Philip Locklear C Freshman R/R 5-11 175 Concord, N.C.
21 Steven Evans LHP Freshman L/L 6-4 185 Amherst, Va.
22 Rusty LaJoie RHP Freshman L/R 6-0 190 Chesapeake, Va.
23 Nathan Thompson C Sophomore R/R 6-3 205215 Stoneville, N.C.
24 Shawn Teufel 1B Junior L/L 6-3 200 Tequesta, Fla.
25 Brett Curll RHP Sophomore R/R 6-2 190 Virginia Beach, Va.
27 Jimmy Miller RHP Freshman R/R 6-2 220 Hummelstown, Pa.
28 Clarence Nicely RHP Junior R/R 6-6 230 Milton, W. Va.
29 Errol Hollinger C Junior R/R 6-4 205 Upland, Calif.
30 Tim Rotola OF Junior L/R 6-1 175 Wichita, Kan.
31 Tyler Light RHP Junior R/R 6-3 190 San Bernardino, Calif.
32 Aaron Parnell INF Freshman R/R 5-10 180 Benson, N.C.
33 Garrett Young OF Senior R/R 6-3 230 Fountain Valley, Calif.
34 Ryan Page LHP Senior L/L 6-3 205 Cranberry Township, Pa.
42 David Stokes RHP Senior L/R 6-8 245 Locust Grove, Okla.
46 Joe Steinwedell RHP Sophomore R/R 6-4 225 Encinitas, Calif.

2007 Roster:
1 Kenneth Negron OF Sophomore R/R 5-8 168 Kingwood, Texas
3 Tommy Bussey INF Sophomore R/R 5-11 180 Boynton Beach, Fla.
4 Cody Brown RHP R-Sophomore R/R 6-2 210 Boca Raton, Fla.
5 Aaron Grijalva 1B R-Junior R/R 6-1 195 Redlands, Calif.
6 Aaron Phillips INF Junior R/R 6-2 190 Claremore, Okla.
7 David Giammaresi INF R-Junior S/R 6-0 195 Coral Springs, Fla.
8 Derek Bennion OF R-Senior R/R 5-10 180 Snohomish, Wash.
9 David McCall INF Sophomore R/R 5-8 150 Newton, Pa.
10 Patrick Gaillard SS Senior R/R 6-1 185 Taylors, S.C.
11 Doug Wallace LHP Sophomore L/L 6-2 175 Hurricane, W. Va.
12 Shawn Teufel 1B Sophomore L/L 6-2 185 Tequesta, Fla.
13 Dane Beakler RHP Sophomore R/R 6-3 190 York, Pa.
15 Cory Johnson C Freshman R/R 6-0 190 Lake Worth, Fla.
16 Andrew Wilson RHP Sophomore R/R 6-1 165 Cary, N.C.
17 Dustin Umberger RHP Sophomore R/R 6-0 180 Hummelstown, Pa.
18 Grady Ihnat LHP Freshman R/R 5-10 205 Simi Valley, Calif.
19 P.K. Keller OF Junior R/R 5-10 180 Clearwater, Fla.
20 Jonathan Schneider OF Freshman R/R 6-1 185 Sarasota, Fla.
22 Tim John RHP Senior R/R 6-1 205 Linwood, N.J.
23 Nate Thompson C R-Freshman R/R 6-2 205 Stoneville, N.C.
26 Andrew Weaver INF Freshman R/R 5-10 180 Weyers Cave, Va.
27 Tim Nanry OF Senior R/R 6-3 225 Rochester, N.Y.
28 Clarence Nicely RHP Junior R/R 6-6 230 Milton, W. Va.
29 Errol Hollinger C Sophomore R/R 6-4 200 Upland, Calif.
30 Phil John OF Senior L/R 6-2 185 Linwood, N.J.
31 Tyler Light RHP Sophomore R/R 6-3 190 San Bernardino, Calif.
32 Chase Vaden LHP Freshman L/L 6-4 190 Lynch Station, Va.
33 Garrett Young OF Junior R/R 6-3 225 Fountain Valley, Calif.
34 Ryan Page LHP Junior L/L 6-3 205 Cranberry Township, Pa.
36 Jason Love C Freshman R/R 6-1 205 Juneau, Alaska
38 Michael Solbach RHP R-Junior R/R 6-3 200 Woodbridge, Va.
42 David Stokes RHP Junior R/R 6-8 230 Locust Grove, Okla.
52 Rusty Lajoie RHP Freshman R/R 6-0 190 Chesapeake, Va.

thanks for the info but I could have saved you the effort as I picked up a Media Guide at one of the ballgames. the numbers look good on paper, but that is all they are, numbers. Until they go out and produce between the lines, nothing will change. As for my remark about former staff; I ahve only been on here a few months and it is quite obvious that you are a "roydun" lover. Get a life and move on. If you are so up on college athletics and all that goes on, you should know that resignations happen. The year is young, and they still may win 36 games. The point is not to just win 36 games, it is to win more than 40, so that if you can not win the conference tourney, you still have a shot at an outside bid. That, my sad friend, will not happen until LU plays better teams and can win, and boost its RPI. You do know what that is don't you?

[Sly Fox]

Again, please refer to my post above. Let's have everyone cool their engines.

[omaha10]

All right, this has all gone on far too long. In the interest of free speech I have tolerated way too much of this chatter. But it is time the forum grew up.

I can think of no compelling reason to be dragging Coach Royer's name through the mud by some on here while others do the same to Coach Toman. Coach Royer poured his heart into the school and the program and for that he has my respect. To kick a man while he is down is not only poor taste but against the foundations our school was built on. And to hammer on a new coach who is trying to shape the program into his image during some growing pains is just as bad. The honeymoon period by fans has seldom been shorter for a coach than what we've experienced recently.

I am asking ... no imploring everyone to stop the personal attacks of both men and each other immediately. I think I speak for many on here who dread coming into the baseball or mens hoops forums anymore. This place was built to be an outlet to discuss the Flames and not to drag people's reputations through the mud. Obviously this goes for the basketball talk as well. And is it too much to ask to keep the two topics separate?

I am not locking any threads right now because I believe deep down that we can be mature enough to act responsibly. Don't let me down.

Sly- accept my apologies. I do enjoy a discussion, but being the new kid on the block let them get the best of me. Evidently I joined the forum when there was much bitterness still around. I have no idea who royer or the MBB coach are and would not know them from Adam. Just a fan of the game and will sleep well tonight knowing that the others on the board will respect your request too- maybe.

[SuperJon]

A lot of the hitting problems are coming from adjusting to the way pitches pitch players and adjusting to new roles.

For example, last year Garrett Young had 8 home runs. This year he was asked to hit for more power. That's what his role was. For someone his size and as strong as he is, that's a legit role for him to be in. If you watch his stance this year compared to last year, it's different. Last year he was more spread out and went straight from A to C. This year, his stance is closed up a little, he's striding more, and he's going A-B-C instead of straight A-C. It's something he's adjusting to.

Another example would be Negron. Last year he was a slap hitter, get the ball on the ground, and beat it out. This year more teams are pitching him inside, and he's having trouble with that pitch. He's having to adjust to it.

Grijalva can hit, but he can't field to save his life. There was one game he gave up two runs simply because he couldn't make a decision quick enough. On one, with bases loaded, on a hard hit ball to him, he immediately turned to throw to second instead of going home for the force out. In the same game, he cut a ball from right field that was going home, and could've nailed the guy at second base but double pumped and made a bad throw.

Giammaresi can field as well, but he doesn't have much range at all at third base.

Negron's playing second because we don't have anyone else to play there.

Baseball's the sport where if you're mechanics are off by just a fraction, especially hitting, you're dead. It takes time, patience, and determination to fix that stuff. You've got to be mentally strong to overcome the slump and keep playing. We're going to see if our guys are.

[Sly Fox]

That's what I was hoping for, Omaha. I do not want personal attacks on anyone on here no matter their allegiances. I think we all can get caught up in the heat of the moment from time to time. But let's do our best to take the high road.

[cwsfan3]

Omaha- you are right: very interesting group here in the flame. Good Luck to Liberty this weekend. I agree with you about Coach Toman and this board. Those who know him know he gives no extra time to these forums- he is all about winning baseball games- maybe you can snatch a few wins this weekend-

Thanks for visiting the board Coach Toman Please come back and post anytime.

You are a head case! are all people in Lynchburg like you? Dude, deal with your issues and move on........ this explains the lack of excitement on this fan board for the teams. I will make sure to tell others to beware. I logged on because someone told us that this was a good site, but you are too much of a headcase

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

For the record Omaha.... This isnt jail, You dont have to come in fighting a big dogg so you dont become someones bi... personal assistant

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Omaha- you are right: very interesting group here in the flame. Good Luck to Liberty this weekend. I agree with you about Coach Toman and this board. Those who know him know he gives no extra time to these forums- he is all about winning baseball games- maybe you can snatch a few wins this weekend-

Thanks for visiting the board Coach Toman Please come back and post anytime.

You are a head case! are all people in Lynchburg like you? Dude, deal with your issues and move on........ this explains the lack of excitement on this fan board for the teams. I will make sure to tell others to beware. I logged on because someone told us that this was a good site, but you are too much of a headcase

Then Bye. It was fun having you Coach hahaha

[Sly Fox]

Come on, Publicist. Did you read any of what I just typed?

[SuperJon]

Hey, I'm just trying to talk baseball. That's all my posts have been about. I'll talk baseball with myself if I have to. I'm the kid that drove two hours to a high school game last year that I have no stake in simply because a coach invited me.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

It was a joke... Not a personal attack...

[prototype]

Omaha- you are right: very interesting group here in the flame. Good Luck to Liberty this weekend. I agree with you about Coach Toman and this board. Those who know him know he gives no extra time to these forums- he is all about winning baseball games- maybe you can snatch a few wins this weekend-

Thanks for visiting the board Coach Toman Please come back and post anytime.

You are a head case! are all people in Lynchburg like you? Dude, deal with your issues and move on........ this explains the lack of excitement on this fan board for the teams. I will make sure to tell others to beware. I logged on because someone told us that this was a good site, but you are too much of a headcase

It was a joke cwsfan3!! Read the other threads...it's an on-going joke. This is a great site. Not many college sites have as many members and post as much as we do. It gets heated once in a while, but for the most part it's alright. My biggest thing is that people are quick to anger on this site and take so many things personal, myself included.

I'm not trying to defend Royer or bash Toman - he is our coach and I support all coaches at Liberty. I have never met him, but he seems like a stand-up guy. And I happy to see the Administration starting to focus on Baseball and hope in the near future we can add on the the stadium, improve the practice facilities and Coach Toman can get some big time talent to commit. I wasn't trying to defend anyone, but the players - I have seen other teams and our guys have talent - and I hope we can pull this thing together this year and get a good run going in the Big South starting with UNCA.

Omaha and CWS - if I offended you in anyway - I apologize. It is just a game. And yes omaha, I know RPI means Real Power Indicator.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Duh Cause Im Coach Toman

[prototype]

A lot of the hitting problems are coming from adjusting to the way pitches pitch players and adjusting to new roles.

For example, last year Garrett Young had 8 home runs. This year he was asked to hit for more power. That's what his role was. For someone his size and as strong as he is, that's a legit role for him to be in. If you watch his stance this year compared to last year, it's different. Last year he was more spread out and went straight from A to C. This year, his stance is closed up a little, he's striding more, and he's going A-B-C instead of straight A-C. It's something he's adjusting to.

Another example would be Negron. Last year he was a slap hitter, get the ball on the ground, and beat it out. This year more teams are pitching him inside, and he's having trouble with that pitch. He's having to adjust to it.

Grijalva can hit, but he can't field to save his life. There was one game he gave up two runs simply because he couldn't make a decision quick enough. On one, with bases loaded, on a hard hit ball to him, he immediately turned to throw to second instead of going home for the force out. In the same game, he cut a ball from right field that was going home, and could've nailed the guy at second base but double pumped and made a bad throw.

Giammaresi can field as well, but he doesn't have much range at all at third base.

Negron's playing second because we don't have anyone else to play there.

Baseball's the sport where if you're mechanics are off by just a fraction, especially hitting, you're dead. It takes time, patience, and determination to fix that stuff. You've got to be mentally strong to overcome the slump and keep playing. We're going to see if our guys are.

Good Post SuperJon - It has always bugged my about Grijalva too. That guy could make it at the next level if he just could figure out fielding. I thought he improve over time, but it seems like he loses confidence more and more each year. Don't get me wrong - I'm not playing either corner, but if i could hit like him - I would work my butt off to get better at it.

[uncafan]

and I hope we can pull this thing together this year and get a good run going in the Big South starting with UNCA.

Oh don't worry...its a good weekend for you guys to be "pulling things together" -- even missing a few guys I think you'll be alright. Friday and Saturday arms for Asheville are excellent -- but it doesn't matter when your bullpen can't get an out, and you can't score. Should be interesting (and in case anyone didn't know...Friday gametime has been bumped up to 1pm).

[SuperJon]

The thing is, he has the physical skill. He just doesn't have the mental side of it. He takes too long to make a decision. The kid's a great player, he just seems to freeze at times. I was never a good player. I just wasn't. I've always known the game and known I was better on the coaching side than the playing side. I know what to do, I just don't have the talent to get it from my head to my hands. Grijalva has the talent, he just doesn't have the instincts right now.

[prototype]

and I hope we can pull this thing together this year and get a good run going in the Big South starting with UNCA.

Oh don't worry...its a good weekend for you guys to be "pulling things together" -- even missing a few guys I think you'll be alright. Friday and Saturday arms for Asheville are excellent -- but it doesn't matter when your bullpen can't get an out, and you can't score. Should be interesting (and in case anyone didn't know...Friday gametime has been bumped up to 1pm).

You guys should think about getting Kenny George to play baseball - I would come see him play:) The bat would look like a toothpick and how would the ump call high strikes - he'd need a later.

[Chris Lang]

You all have to remember that Garrett Young is playing with a partially torn labrum in his shoulder. There's no doubt that's effecting him at the plate and in the field. He just doesn't look like the same player he was last year, though he does appear to be coming around a little bit hitting wise.