[krh44]

In other Flames sports news this Sunday afternoon..Game 3 Flames up by 1 early.

[Sly Fox]

Let's add to the merriment with a victory in Athens!

[SumItUp]

Flames lead 5-0 after five innings. We definitely need to leave this series with at least one victory. I'm not sure what happened yesterday, but it was one of those days you want to forget.

[BJWilliams]

Trey Lambert pitching like his career is on the line and Liberty finally wakes up the bats up 8-0 in their half of the 8th inning

[jinxy]

The last two days furthers my sentiments that the rotation should be Roy Lambert and then Herndon. Herndon has teh most upside but he's not as refined yet and hasn't had nearly the experience.

[Sly Fox]

Guys, can we just close this one out. We better not blow this lead with just one inning to go. 6 runs home in the 8th is more than enough.

Josh Richardson is now on to try and close this one out. We're still up 10-6.

[Sly Fox]

Here's a summary:

We take a 10-nothing lead into the bottom of the 8th and then give up 6 runs. We are now headed to the 9th holding on for dear life.

[Sly Fox]

We tacked on a run in the top of the 9th to push the lead back to 5 at 11-6.

Now headed to the bottom of the 9th. Ashton Perritt looking to close things out.

[Sly Fox]

Down to the final out, Georgia has the bases juiced and we still lead 11-6.

[krh44]

11-8 now, seriously

[Sly Fox]

2-run single makes it 11-8.

[SumItUp]

2-run single makes it 11-8.

Hanging curve on an 0-2 count.

[Sly Fox]

We close it out with the K!

LU - 11
UGa - 8

[Svandive]

Over now. 11-8. Nice win!

[flowserve]

Great win, it will make the bus ride home much better. It is good the their bats come alive.

[adam42381]

Nice win. I assume there was no staff photographer at the game.



http://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm ... 0&TeamID=1

[flameshaw]

Great win for the guys.

[SuperJon]

This weekend was a total disappointment. Georgia has lost 2 out of 3 to Georgia Southern and Belmont. They've also lost to Georgia State and Western Carolina. Not winning this series is the type of thing we're known for and the reason we have been held out of regionals the past three years.

[Liberty22]

Our Baseball team is consistently good and yet SJ, you don't like our coach? Yea he has made mistakes that have cost us but without him, we may not be as good as we are. I consistently look forward to baseball because we are always good, especially since bball is always so bad, except for this miracle run this year...

[adam42381]

Our Baseball team is consistently good and yet SJ, you don't like our coach? Yea he has made mistakes that have cost us but without him, we may not be as good as we are. I consistently look forward to baseball because we are always good, especially since bball is always so bad, except for this miracle run this year...

Now you've done it. Come on SJ, lay it out for him...

[flamesfilmguy]

Our Baseball team is consistently good and yet SJ, you don't like our coach? Yea he has made mistakes that have cost us but without him, we may not be as good as we are. I consistently look forward to baseball because we are always good, especially since bball is always so bad, except for this miracle run this year...

Just gonna put this out there so jon doesn't have to explain for the 400th time.

Good is the enemy of great in a nutshell.
A good record with no regional is just a good record. thats it. and that is not acceptable with the talent we've had over the past 3 years. the in game coaching decisions is what many believe to be the real issue.

[SuperJon]

We were good under Royer.

We were good under Pastors.

To think that we never had talent or never had a chance to win or weren't good under those two coaches shows how absolutely little you know about our baseball program. We knocked on the door of regionals under those two coaches. We actually even made it to one then as well. Pastors even won a game in regionals. Royer had our team one game away from regionals his last two years. He had winning records his final three years including a then school record for wins in 06. Royer was limited by his coaching ability. We had talent. And we ran a clean program that represented our school well.

Here's the truth about Toman: The closest he came to getting to the regionals was in his first year with none of his own players. Sure, he can absolutely recruit with the best of them. However, he's a horrible representative of our school. He doesn't take care of his players. He has recruited players that had absolutely no place coming to Liberty. Thankfully, to his credit, after all of those kids left a few years ago he started recruiting kids that were much better fits at our school but it took years to improve their reputation on campus.

I'm willing to bet 3-4 guys will end up having to have Tommy John this year because of his inability to manage a pitching staff. I'm also not a fan of a coach who will pin a player up against the dugout and choke him during a game. Ask anyone who has had any dealing with Toman over the past five years. None of them like him. All of them think he's a joke. And many of them were recruited and/or played for him.

I'm not going to blindly follow a coach just because he can win 40 games. I would rather have a quality guy who represents our school well. He's upgraded the talent but he has yet to do anything that the two previous coaches did and they did it while representing the school in a better way. Why are we okay with down years in soccer every couple of years? It's because Jeff Alder is a great guy who is truly a Liberty guy. I'd rather have that than a guy who has no place at Liberty winning 40 games and never winning a conference championship or make it to the regionals.

If Toman has been one of the hottest up and coming coaches in the country over the past three years, why hasn't he gotten a sniff at a job better than us? Why has he only been in the running at crappy, bottom of the barrel schools and not quality ones? Why hasn't he been offered anywhere other than Maryland? People know he's not a good coach.

Great recruiter.

Terrible manager.

Talent wins a whole lot of games. In the past four years, we've lost 39 games by less than 3 runs. We've won 32 games by less than 3 runs. A good coach is 50/50 in games under 3 runs. A great coach is above 50/50. We've missed out on regionals by an average of two good wins over the past three years. Where were those two good wins each year? Lost in a game by under three runs.

Toman has done a nice job but he wasn't hired to do nice things. He was hired to take LU to the next step and we're still waiting on him to do something that other coaches have never done.

[Flamepop]

Ask anyone who has had any dealing with Toman over the past five years. None of them like him. All of them think he's a joke. And many of them were recruited and/or played for him.

This is patently untrue. Please take your hate elsewhere.

[SuperJon]

I love that you picked that quote out but didn't even touch on any of the other things, including the sentence right before that in which he should've been at the very least suspended for and possibly fired for.

[flameshaw]

SuperJon wrote:Ask anyone who has had any dealing with Toman over the past five years. None of them like him. All of them think he's a joke.

SJ, you hurt the rest of your argument by saying this. I agree with you on some points, but not only is this statement untrue, it has no place here.