[logic]

This is true, Texas pays assistant coaches 2 times what head coaches here make.

[thepostman]

Id venture his total annual income is around the $300-500K mark

6 figures is one thing, but 300-500K?? Seems high to me, especially for our return on the investment...or lack there of.

[SuperJon]

Id venture his total annual income is around the $300-500K mark

Wow. Really? You really think he's making that much? How ignorant are you? Rocco was making $425k and he had three conference titles and coached football. Gary Gilmore is only making $202k and he's been a National Seed before. You really think a perennial-second place coach who has never even sniffed at a conference title is going to be making that much? In baseball?

[logic]

Easy now Jon, it's clear BJ hasn't read any recent 990's or has any idea how things work here.

[Chippy]

He makes less than Carey Green who makes 191K which is the 5th highest salaried employee at LU. Rocco was #1 with 440K which was higher than the chancellor.

[BJWilliams]

Total annual (including everything not just salary)? maybe. I figure they put up a big number to discourage anyone from trying to steal him...you have to wonder what kind of total money Maryland was offering that he would turn it down because he was making more here

[thepostman]

I don't understand why we would try to stop him from leaving BJ. What exactly has he done for the program that hasn't already been done?

[prototype]

Id venture his total annual income is around the $300-500K mark

I would say you are smoking weed if you believe this.... I think he makes good money and a lot more than Royer did, but he doesn't make Gill, Rocco, or Layer money like this. I'm not sure what, but it's not even close to $500K.... That would be ridiculous and I don't see us overpaying that much.

[Chippy]

Id venture his total annual income is around the $300-500K mark

I would say you are smoking weed if you believe this.... I think he makes good money and a lot more than Royer did, but he doesn't make Gill, Rocco, or Layer money like this. I'm not sure what, but it's not even close to $500K.... That would be ridiculous and I don't see us overpaying that much.

Look at the Sunday News and Advance. The top 5 sLU alaries are posted on the front page!! Toman is not there.

[flameshaw]

He was hired in at just over 100K, can't imagine it is a whole lot higher than that now. I have some issues with him, but not because he "supposedly" bunts too much or on the field management. He has been the best recruiter we have had in a long time, I would argue ever. I just don't believe that advertising where he is interviewing is a good idea for the program. If I am a good player, maybe recently drafted, and know the HC is interviewing elsewhere, I am not real confident that I am going to follow through with my commitment,or go pro, or go somewhere else. That is why I would not have announced he was looking at other schools. But, it is a message board and people are free to do as they wish. It may be a good thing that he leaves, but it could be worse too. Just look at the last several years before he got here.

[BJWilliams]

there is a difference between salary and total annual income (which includes perks like country club memberships, booster club membership and the like, vehicle allowances, any money for camps and appearances etc., and not including incentive based bonuses).

[jbock13]

Does Toman get paid per bunt attempt?

[jcmanson]

thanks Beej (for that thoughtful and insightful post (which continues to shed light on this situation) it is much appreciated)

[adam42381]

there is a difference between salary and total annual income (which includes perks like country club memberships, booster club membership and the like, vehicle allowances, any money for camps and appearances etc., and not including incentive based bonuses).

So, you think he gets somewhere between $200-$400k in perks?

[SuperJon]

Erik Bakich only made $100,000 at Maryland.

[prototype]

He was hired in at just over 100K, can't imagine it is a whole lot higher than that now. I have some issues with him, but not because he "supposedly" bunts too much or on the field management. He has been the best recruiter we have had in a long time, I would argue ever. I just don't believe that advertising where he is interviewing is a good idea for the program. If I am a good player, maybe recently drafted, and know the HC is interviewing elsewhere, I am not real confident that I am going to follow through with my commitment,or go pro, or go somewhere else. That is why I would not have announced he was looking at other schools. But, it is a message board and people are free to do as they wish. It may be a good thing that he leaves, but it could be worse too. Just look at the last several years before he got here.

Are you serious? We were 111-65, won 59% of our games, the 3 years before he came and lost in the Championship Game of the BSC those three years, twice by 1 run and by a total of 7 runs. Toman is 186-110 and also won 59% of his games and lost in 2 championship games in his 5 years here. Looks like we will be back to where we started;)

[prototype]

there is a difference between salary and total annual income (which includes perks like country club memberships, booster club membership and the like, vehicle allowances, any money for camps and appearances etc., and not including incentive based bonuses).

And the tax returns show total compensation, not just salary. He's not in top 5... The perks are good at LU, but not that good.

[thepostman]

BJ, be a man, admit you were wrong.

[SuperJon]

BJ, admit you were wrong.

That's something he just doesn't do.

[prototype]

BJ, admit you were wrong.

That's something he just doesn't do.

+1

[SuperJon]

it could be worse too. Just look at the last several years before he got here.

Are you serious? We were 111-65, won 59% of our games, the 3 years before he came and lost in the Championship Game of the BSC those three years, twice by 1 run and by a total of 7 runs. Toman is 186-110 and also won 59% of his games and lost in 2 championship games in his 5 years here. Looks like we will be back to where we started;)

Agreed. I wasn't the biggest Royer fan, and I was in favor of the change, but we have done nothing but stay the same, if not slide backwards, in the last five years. We were closer to making it regionals under Royer than we ever have been under Toman. Many of Toman's best players (and the stars on his best team) were Royer's guys.

[thepostman]

And on top of all that Toman has had better talent to work with than Royer did in my opinion.

[BJWilliams]

BJ, admit you were wrong.

That's something he just doesn't do.

I was wrong...

[thepostman]

[prototype]

BJ, admit you were wrong.

That's something he just doesn't do.

I was wrong...

I have reported this post to admin. I'm just guessing someone has hacked into BJ's account. This is ridiculous - it's way to easy to crack into these type of sites. Sly - can we do anything to improve security setting on this site? I feel like I could be violated at any moment.

Sorry BJ - just let us know which other post, if any, were posted by someone else using your names. Dang this sucks. Feels like I should verify all my post now... man, I MAD - "False BJ" - if your out there and reading this, shame on you - we are just normal people trying to share about our favorite team on here, why do you have to do this? Why does this give you pleasure? Just leave BJ and us alone!!!! If we find out who you are - we will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law...This is not an assault just on BJ, this is on all of us and we will not stand by and watch this board be taken over by a bunch of computer hackers with time on their hands. What have we ever done to you?