[SuperJon]

We know we're not the level of Coastal. Toman's been here two years. You guys weren't where you are after Gilmore's second year.

atrain: of course FB would still go to NY, but the other sports wouldnt.

That alone shows how much of an idiot you are. The other sports don't go to NY as it is. The travel in the A-Sun would be worse than in the Big South and half the teams you would be playing would be transitional schools.

[coastalfan1]

We know we're not the level of Coastal. Toman's been here two years. You guys weren't where you are after Gilmore's second year.

atrain: of course FB would still go to NY, but the other sports wouldnt.

That alone shows how much of an idiot you are. The other sports don't go to NY as it is. The travel in the A-Sun would be worse than in the Big South and half the teams you would be playing would be transitional schools.

wow a christian calling someone a idiot, falwell would be proud. I guess i should expect that from christians now a days. No wonder they mollest kiddies and bow to jews and muslims.

But our very own athletic director stated some of our other sports may go up there for tournaments

i understand they are america east in other sports but that potential travel is still there sir.



hmm most of those schools seem to be near bigger ones, why couldnt we schedule a big school while we were out there exactly?

btw when your done mollesting your brother can you let me know when your team is gonna learn to play ANY sport?

[SuperJon]

I'd like to see where Moose said we'd be going to Stony Brook to play stuff. Even he isn't that stupid. Stony Brook is only football. They are not and will not be members in other sports.

And my brother's not home, but let me take my Big South Championship ring from football off before I tell you if we're any good at any sport.

[Libertine]

wow a christian calling someone a idiot, falwell would be proud. I guess i should expect that from christians now a days. No wonder they mollest kiddies and bow to jews and muslims.

But our very own athletic director stated some of our other sports may go up there for tournaments

i understand they are america east in other sports but that potential travel is still there sir.



hmm most of those schools seem to be near bigger ones, why couldnt we schedule a big school while we were out there exactly?

btw when your done mollesting your brother can you let me know when your team is gonna learn to play ANY sport?

Wow. Mental illness, ladies and gentlemen! It's not just a condition, it's a lifestyle!

[jcmanson]

let me take my Big South Championship ring from football off before I tell you if we're any good at any sport.

[RagingTireFire]

hmm most of those schools seem to be near bigger ones, why couldnt we schedule a big school while we were out there exactly?

Because conference games are played on the weekends and OOC games are played mid-week. Unless classes were on a break, your players would miss a minimum of three days of school sitting around in a hotel, unable to attend class, work out and/or practice. Given the thrust of your statement, this would happen on a weekly basis. Besides rendering your entire team injured or academically ineligible by June, this would only compound the travel and economic issues that non-marquee sports already face.

You threw the A-Sun out there as "a possibility" when, in fact, if Coastal were to leave the Big South, the A-Sun would be the only realistic possibility. One look at that map you've got would show you that travel in the A-Sun is much more of an issue that it is in the Big South. In fact, five minutes on Google would tell you that the cumulative distance from Conway to each full-time Big South member is almost exactly half that of travel to Atlantic Sun members.* In fact, travel from Coastal to Lipscomb, Belmont and Florida Gulf Coast is nearly the same as traveling to every Big South member combined.

Further, as Stony Brook is a BSC member for football only and football does not play tournaments, the only reason that CCU would go to Stony Brook for tournaments would be for non-conference early season tournaments, the same kind of non-conference early season tournaments that every sport but football does every year. This is what Moose was referring to when he made that comment.

* Campbell and Stony Brook not factored into distance calculations. Campbell not factored in b/c they are currently an A-Sun member that will join the Big South so, for the moment, they're a wash. Stony Brook not factored in b/c they are BSC members for football only and we're not talking about football here.

[ATrain]

Coastalfan2,
If Moose sends Coastal's teams to Stony Brook for other sports for OOC matches, then that is Coastal's decision and Coastal's alone, regardless if they are in the ASUN or Big South.

And since you brought up being "Near Bigger Schools," here are some comparisons:
ETSU is about an hour from Tennessee: LU and VMI are about an hour from UVA
Lipsomb/Belmont are about the same distance from Vanderbilt as Radford is from Virginia Tech

And finally, when has any team from Coastal in the "Big 3" sports (Football, Basketball, Women's Basketball) ever made it past the first round of an NCAA Division I tourney for anything? The answer is: NEVER

[Chris Lang]

I'd put baseball in the Big 3 before women's basketball. Sorry, when your regional finals are played in front of a 3/4 empty arena like the Louisville-Maryland game at RBC Center, there's no way you can lump women's hoops in the Big 3.

[Ed Dantes]

I'd put baseball in the Big 3 before women's basketball. Sorry, when your regional finals are played in front of a 3/4 empty arena like the Louisville-Maryland game at RBC Center, there's no way you can lump women's hoops in the Big 3.

I agree (in principle), because women's basketball is classified as a sport that doesn't generate revenue.
I just wouldn't figure that baseball teams bring in money.

I don't think there is a "Big Three" so to speak, I think it's a "really big two", "a decent sized couple of others" and "pitifully small rest of the field". I'd imagine that baseball and women's basketball fall under that second category.

[Ed Dantes]

I am glad to see that Coastal fans are finally on the 'The Big South sucks' bandwagon, though. I seem to remember them calling us whiners whenever we spoke up about this fact.

Seriously... since no schools are changing conferences in the foreseeable future... what are the steps needed to get rid of Kommish Kallander? Who is he accountable to? Do the schools vote on this?

[Schfourteenteen]

since no schools are changing conferences in the foreseeable future...

2011.

[Ed Dantes]

since no schools are changing conferences in the foreseeable future...

2011.

Elaborate? I mean 'no schools' as in LU, CC, & Winthrop.

[Schfourteenteen]

When the NCAA moratorium is lifted and schools can move up and down(Division I changing subdivisions). I think by 2015 youll see a completly new outlook on alot of conferences. Not to get into the "Hey Liberty's going to be in the CUSA in 3 years" conversation, but there will be alot of programs moving. Actually, the Moving Up issue hasnt been brought up in like 6 months. Its long overdue.

[Ed Dantes]

When the NCAA moratorium is lifted and schools can move up and down(Division I changing subdivisions). I think by 2015 youll see a completly new outlook on alot of conferences. Not to get into the "Hey Liberty's going to be in the CUSA in 3 years" conversation, but there will be alot of programs moving. Actually, the Moving Up issue hasnt been brought up in like 6 months. Its long overdue.

Gotcha.

The point of my post, though, remains unanswered:

what are the steps needed to get rid of Kommish Kallander? Who is he accountable to? Do the schools vote on this?

[SuperJon]

I think it's school presidents.

[coastalfan1]

wow a christian calling someone a idiot, falwell would be proud. I guess i should expect that from christians now a days. No wonder they mollest kiddies and bow to jews and muslims.

But our very own athletic director stated some of our other sports may go up there for tournaments

i understand they are america east in other sports but that potential travel is still there sir.



hmm most of those schools seem to be near bigger ones, why couldnt we schedule a big school while we were out there exactly?

btw when your done mollesting your brother can you let me know when your team is gonna learn to play ANY sport?

Wow. Mental illness, ladies and gentlemen! It's not just a condition, it's a lifestyle!

crap, my handicap has been exposed

[uncafan]

I'd put baseball in the Big 3 before women's basketball. Sorry, when your regional finals are played in front of a 3/4 empty arena like the Louisville-Maryland game at RBC Center, there's no way you can lump women's hoops in the Big 3.

I agree (in principle), because women's basketball is classified as a sport that doesn't generate revenue.
I just wouldn't figure that baseball teams bring in money.

I don't think there is a "Big Three" so to speak, I think it's a "really big two", "a decent sized couple of others" and "pitifully small rest of the field". I'd imagine that baseball and women's basketball fall under that second category.

I'd agree for the most part.... But like anything it depends on the region of the country and the school. For example...Tennessee which has a women's basketball tradition obviously brings in way more money than their baseball team (which has a pretty nice complex and is in and of itself a pretty big draw). I'd say in the southeast men's baseball does better -- but for instance...Midwest (where I am from) women's basketball isn't huge but it certainly draws much better than baseball. This of course is partially due to baseball games being played in frigid weather, and many northern schools don't really have facilities that are condusive to large crowds....Still its a regional thing I think.

Shoot at coastal their baseball team outdraws their men's BB team so what does that say? Baseball IS getting a lot bigger and the NCAA championships prove how big baseball has gotten in terms of the top teams....But, again, its not really that big of a deal throughout most of the country.

[Eagle Ed]

Now, you are going to have exceptions where there are 4 "big" sports (attendance-wise and interest-wise) on a campus -- Maine and hockey come to mind, as does Tennessee and WBasketball (and I'd like to think that Hockey at LU is close to that) ---- but nationwide, baseball is certainly the 3rd biggest deal.

I did not get down to University of South Carolina to check out their new stadium (or see a game) - but I wanted too. They have just opened up their $38M school-owned stadium downtown on the river --- and averaged about 7,000 per game. ALL of the SEC schools are big-time baseball schools. Pretty much ALL of the ACC schools are big-time baseball schools.

Even the conference that I personally wish we would join, the Southern, is big-time in their baseball. At our old Big South brother school, Elon, baseball is a huge deal. They are even in the Final 64 right now (although I understand they lost tonight).

College baseball is a tremendous game ... the national TV scene is starting to understand that. Behind FB and MBB, it is certainly #3 (and rising).