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What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 5:57 pm
by PAFlame
I purchased the ESPN+ subscription for A-Sun season and saw the ladies were playing today. I have no idea what I’m watching, we are down 32-14 at the half and play the laziest zone defense I’ve ever seen. Besides Baker and Gulley, are there any athletes on this team? Rettstatt looks like she needs an oxygen tank after 2 possessions and I guess we don’t care about taking care of the ball? But hey, at least we are BIG.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 6:11 pm
by cruzan_flame13
PAFlame wrote:I purchased the ESPN+ subscription for A-Sun season and saw the ladies were playing today. I have no idea what I’m watching, we are down 32-14 at the half and play the laziest zone defense I’ve ever seen. Besides Baker and Gulley, are there any athletes on this team? Rettstatt looks like she needs an oxygen tank after 2 possessions and I guess we don’t care about taking care of the ball? But hey, at least we are BIG.
From the looks of things, the team was heavily run by Green. In my opinion, Rettstatt is mainly on the team because her sister played for the Flames. This season looks bad and really need to step up with recruiting for next season (not sure if I have any hope for them this season). Right now they have Asia Todd, who is a talented player. I do have a question; is it time for coach Green to retire?

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 7:18 pm
by thepostman
It's long overdue

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 7:22 pm
by Chainsaw777
It was tough to watch, we don't play good defense and seemingly run few offensive plays and missed almost half our free throws. At one point it was 20-6 personal fouls against Liberty which both Gully and Baker had 3 fouls in the end of 1st/beginning of 2nd. Welcome to the ASUN was the message I heard. Fouls weren't the difference, just insult to SELF-injury.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 7:27 pm
by ballah09
We're going to see Green's "retirement" soon.

His teams are awful.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 7:34 pm
by jbock13
It’s time for Green to go.

Unfortunately, I doubt anyone will force him to leave. He’s had over five years to solve the turnover problems, and either he doesn’t know how to, or doesn’t care.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 7:41 pm
by Class of 20Something
We still can't decide if Turner Gill got retired or not. Green will make it look legitimate if nothing else. In Ian we trust.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 8:08 pm
by Purple Haize
I’ll have a live first hand look Saturday

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 5th, 2019, 8:10 pm
by Cider Jim
cruzan_flame13 wrote:is it time for coach Green to retire?
Ballcoach's sources say "NO, not gonna happen." :nono

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 6th, 2019, 2:12 pm
by PAFlame
The thing that greatly bothered me was how ridiculously talented this team was from 2014-2016. Any coach in America would have absolutely killed to have the roster we had (Rininger who had the talent to play in the WNBA before her injury, Adams, Kearney) and would have certainly taken them back to maybe a Round of 32 or even Sweet 16 with good coaching. It’s almost like the team ended up coaching themselves (and Coch Sherard developing them into incredible players) and there hasn’t been a recovery since. Transfers galore too. Something is happening but I fear the administration will absolutely allow Green to completely destroy the program, just as he built it.

Coach Green is a legend, but he needs to realize when it’s time.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 6th, 2019, 6:07 pm
by ballcoach15
Do we still waste time on shot clock, trying to get ball inside, before we even think about shooting ?

I have yet to see team play this season , but hope to be in Vines Center next home game.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 8th, 2019, 8:48 pm
by jinxy
Man its getting ugly. They are going to have to make a move.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 8th, 2019, 9:04 pm
by PAFlame
This whole thing is collapsing in on itself like a red giant.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 9th, 2019, 10:27 am
by ballcoach15
I was told before season started that it was going to be a long season. (due to injuries and transfers)

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 9th, 2019, 5:16 pm
by jbock13
ballcoach15 wrote:I was told before season started that it was going to be a long season. (due to injuries and transfers)
Always an excuse.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 9th, 2019, 6:13 pm
by ballah09
jbock13 wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I was told before season started that it was going to be a long season. (due to injuries and transfers)
Always an excuse.
Seems like a reoccurring theme.

Green has a high alarming transfer rate that alone should raise red flags.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 8:54 am
by olldflame
ballah09 wrote:
jbock13 wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:I was told before season started that it was going to be a long season. (due to injuries and transfers)
Always an excuse.
Seems like a reoccurring theme.

Green has a high alarming transfer rate that alone should raise red flags.
I'm not so much concerned with the rate of transfers as I am with the who and why. Ritchie has had a fairly high transfer rate too, but after the initial purge, pretty much all of them have fallen into what I call the "win/win" category. Players who were not projected to make a big contribution leaving to go somewhere they can play and freeing up a scholarship for someone who can upgrade our talent. Green has been losing starters and top prospects. I don't pretend to know what the reasons for their decisions to transfer were, but I do know what they were NOT, and what is left is concerning.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 9:15 am
by thepostman
There have been rumors for years of things that have contributed to transfers within the women's program but they were just rumors and I have no idea if they were even true so I hesitate to even put that stuff on this board. Regardless, it is clear to see Green has lost his way a bit but at the same time it was bound to catch up to him one of these days. Even his best teams had trouble turning the ball over and playing very streaky on the offensive side. At some point it was going to get the best of the program and it has.

The sweet 16 run was a long time ago now. You can't hang your hat on that forever.

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 10:46 am
by flameshaw
Maybe PH? I like his tenacity, experience. 8) Play Basketball

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 10:48 am
by thepostman
I'd go with his wife over him but that's just me.

Just don't ask ballcoach for his opinion ;)

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 10:58 am
by Purple Haize
thepostman wrote:I'd go with his wife over him but that's just me.

Just don't ask ballcoach for his opinion ;)
Funny you should mention that....

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 11:09 am
by thepostman
Is she taking the job!!!??

#sources

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 11:40 am
by Cider Jim
flameshaw wrote:Maybe Mrs. PH? I like her tenacity, experience. 8) Play Basketball :cheerleader
FIFY :lol:

Was Ballcoach on a mission to scout our next HC?

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 3:50 pm
by ballcoach15
The next coach will have P5 Conference experience, (probably at a Big 12 school).

Print this, and post it on refrigerator door, or tape it to computer screen. Play Basketball

Re: What is going on?

Posted: January 10th, 2019, 3:55 pm
by thepostman
Vague enough where it would be nearly impossible to be wrong. Bold.