[Sly Fox]

North Carolina Central University
Durham, North Carolina


NCCU Womens Hoops Official Site



Joli D. Robinson
15th Season as NCCU Head Coach

[Chippy]

Gardner Webb up on NCC 52-27 with @ 11 minutes to go in their game tonight. This should be one in the win column.

[Del Flame]

Gardner Webb up on NCC 52-27 with @ 11 minutes to go in their game tonight. This should be one in the win column.

I hope you're right. I'm still nervous because they ended up only losing by 8.

[Chippy]

I don't think there will be any "easy" games for this team this year. But I hope I'm wrong. We have to see how the team plays with Devon in the lineup for a full game over several games.

[jbock13]

I'm going to safely call this an easy win

[jcmanson]

So we just lost 50-48

[jbock13]

So we just lost 50-48

I'm officially worried now.

[Cider Jim]

NC Central was 1-8, going into this game, with their only victory being against Presby. We beat them last year by 22 ponts, 66-44. This year we lost? WOW!

[jbock13]

I have officially hit the panic button. I don't know what is going on this year, but Coach Green had better have an explanation for all these nonsense turnovers, and the pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, rush an unbalanced shot offense that has been plaguing us. This is MUCH different than 2008 now.

[Stevev]

Wow! this team has really hit rock bottom with the loss today. It is hard to believe that a Cary Green coached team would lose to a team this bad. I am totally shocked by this loss.

[Chippy]

We're now 9 games in and there is no sign that this team has the ability to put away inferior teams. Are we an inferior team? Johnson C. Smith beat NCCU by 40 points and they're a DII team. We have no pure shooters on this team. If we aren't outrebounding teams by 20 we lose. Not to mention those pesky turnovers. The team is shooting 36% for the year!! and their foul shooting is just as bad. There is only one way to go from here. Unfortunately, they will probably lose to VCU in Richmond this coming week.
One thing Amber Mays provided was good ball control, good vision and a threat to go to the hoop. Also, she paced the offense and her confidence calmed evryone down; she was the glue for the team. With her gone you see the team unraveling because there is not a born floor leader with her confidence and her tenacity and the confidence the team had in her. Just a few humble observations. I welcome yours.

[Stevev]

I was expecting Dymond Morgan to fill that void left by Amber Mays but obviously that hasn't worked out. She seemed to get better as the season went on last year and not sure what has happened to her this year. Where is Kylee Beecher been lately? Basically a no show this year after showing some promise last year. Omatola is supposed to be a big time recruit that transfered in from TCU. This team has talent no doubt but just don't have it together for some reason. The preseason mid-major poll had us in the top 10 I think so this supposed to be a big year. This is beyond disappointing for us.

[jbock13]

Coach Green hasn't given Kylee Beecher any playing time at all this year.

[Chippy]

Kylie has an injured sternum.

[Sly Fox]

This loss defies my comprehension. I'd love to hear Critic's thoughts.

There is no shortage of talent on the floor but there appears to be a general sloppy effort. The talent level won't change until next season but concentration & effort can be improved daily.

[Chippy]

We lack a transition game because we lack team speed. So we never get easy buckets. Our offense is based on the post players getting the ball inside. Defenses know this and collapse on the post players. We pass, pass, and pass and then either force a pass to the post and/or force a shot at the buzzer, or don't get a shot off. There is no one right know who has confidence in their outside shot to do otherwise. Devon will drive and get fouled but she lacks a consisitent outside shot as does Jelena. Just look at the shooting percentages of the individual players. We had a chance to tie the JMU game with a 3 pointer at the end but Danika took the shot. We don't have a go to gal. The last few games we had a chance to tie or win, we had 3 different girls take the shot -Devon, Danika and Dymond. I like the idea of Jasmine Gardner playing more. She is the quickest post player and attacks the glass and goes after loose balls. She has a real nose for the ball. She will get a lot of put backs as a result and at 6'2" she's a decent defender with long arms which makes her more capable of blocks -which as tall as we really lack shot blockers.

My starting lineup and subs:
1. Emily - Dymond
2. Jelena - Rachel - Lakendra
3. Devon - Danika -Brittany
4. Jasmine - Kylie -Kittery
5. Avery - Tolu

[thesportscritic]

There is no excuse to losing to NC Central. Their only victory was against Presbyterian coming into this game. I blame this loss on the coaching staff imo. We have a lot talent on the floor and yet imo the coaching staff doesn't know how to utilize their strengths. We run the same plays on offense. We always look to the post which isnt a bad thing but the guards need to shoot the ball more. I think we have decent team speed but our guards are just not in attack mode like last season. We only lose one player (Amber Mays) one of the best point guards to come through here and she was always on the attack to create for herself and other teammates. Dymond isn't the greatest point guard. She does play good defense. A lot of our turnovers are bounce passes to our post players which i really hate. As I was listening to the game yesterday I really just wanted to cuss which I did sometimes. I believe we have the talent to compete at a high level but I don't know who to blame for all of this whether it be the players for not playing up to their potential or the coaching staff.....

[jbock13]

There is no excuse to losing to NC Central. Their only victory was against Presbyterian coming into this game. I blame this loss on the coaching staff imo. We have a lot talent on the floor and yet imo the coaching staff doesn't know how to utilize their strengths. We run the same plays on offense. We always look to the post which isnt a bad thing but the guards need to shoot the ball more. I think we have decent team speed but our guards are just not in attack mode like last season. We only lose one player (Amber Mays) one of the best point guards to come through here and she was always on the attack to create for herself and other teammates. Dymond isn't the greatest point guard. She does play good defense. A lot of our turnovers are bounce passes to our post players which i really hate. As I was listening to the game yesterday I really just wanted to cuss which I did sometimes. I believe we have the talent to compete at a high level but I don't know who to blame for all of this whether it be the players for not playing up to their potential or the coaching staff.....

I agree 100 percent.

[Stevev]

This loss is the equivalent of the football losing to Presbyterian a couple of years ago. Maybe worse.

[vtechhokies20]

Shoot Green he has only won 10 0r 11 BSC Championships!

[BJWilliams]

This team is tough for me to read to be honest...I mean when Ive seen them at Vines they have had their share of TOs (more than actually) but they find ways to pull away late...they dont have that same fire away from Vines. Carey Green has always managed to get the team to peak just at the right time every year (and they have rolled through the conference schedule). This year's team...I just dont know what to make of it

[Chippy]

Coastal, Charleston Southern, High Point and GW are senior laden teams. We will be fortunate to split with them especially the way we play away from the Vines center. I think we need to get our best 8-9 girls and go for it. Shorten the bench. Coach likes to sub a lot due to the long season but this year's team needs better chemistry. Subbing 13 players really breaks continuity and chemistry. We look like we don't know what we're doing sometimes and everyone is looking for someone else to take a shot. Shorten the bench, especially with this team. This team needs to have their confidence boosted. Losing to NCCU does the opposite. I would do everything and anything to get a win at this point and build on that. But nobody is asking me . . . so I'll just be quiet.

[Purple Haize]

A couple of comments on the comments. (And for fun guess who is coming over later? I will have to hide my puter from BBF!!
Critic - What is wrong with a bounce pass? That is the best pass to make into the post, especially if you are trying to reduce turnovers and/or don't have the athleticism on the wings to lob it into the post. Which we don't have
If we are calling to reduce the number of turnovers, then you probably shouldn't be calling on us to run the ball more. The faster the tempo the more turnovers. Now you can argue if those types of turnover are better than the ones we are committing now, but speeding up the tempo won't necessarily cut down the number of turnovers.
Coach likes to run a half court scheme. Set plays, screens, cuts etc. Its what he does. His systems have ALWAYS relied on a strong and effective post presence, which I think we have. I may be in the minority here but I LOVE our front line.
The biggest problem, IMHO, is team chemistry. That is something that is difficult if not impossible to coach. At some point the players need to take ownership of THEIR team, trust one another and try to make each other better. To me that is on the players. The better chemistry you have the fewer turn overs there are, the more the "go to" gal will emerge, the fewer bad losses and the more good wins.

[ToTheLeft]

A couple of comments on the comments. (And for fun guess who is coming over later? I will have to hide my puter from BBF!!
Critic - What is wrong with a bounce pass? That is the best pass to make into the post, especially if you are trying to reduce turnovers and/or don't have the athleticism on the wings to lob it into the post. Which we don't have
If we are calling to reduce the number of turnovers, then you probably shouldn't be calling on us to run the ball more. The faster the tempo the more turnovers. Now you can argue if those types of turnover are better than the ones we are committing now, but speeding up the tempo won't necessarily cut down the number of turnovers.
Coach likes to run a half court scheme. Set plays, screens, cuts etc. Its what he does. His systems have ALWAYS relied on a strong and effective post presence, which I think we have. I may be in the minority here but I LOVE our front line.
The biggest problem, IMHO, is team chemistry. That is something that is difficult if not impossible to coach. At some point the players need to take ownership of THEIR team, trust one another and try to make each other better. To me that is on the players. The better chemistry you have the fewer turn overs there are, the more the "go to" gal will emerge, the fewer bad losses and the more good wins.

Even back to my first year at LU with the Frazees, turnovers have been an issue with Carey's teams. Usually we have the talent to overcome them, tho. This year, there is talent, but not to overcome the turnovers.

That's why I don't think it's "team chemistry", because those Frazee teams had a ton of chemistry and still turned the ball over a lot. I think it's just coach's system, it lends itself to turnovers, but also to aggressive rebounding and high percentage shots. When the latter two are done more often than the former, we win. We dominate the paint on most every night, and that's a great place to start, but it also lends itself to turnovers. Passes to the post, ESPECIALLY when that's the only thing your offense does, are easily defended.

Maybe an increased emphasis on the mid-range game? I haven't been able to watch the girls this year, but I would think a mid-range game could help take pressure off the post. My memory of the team is dump passes to the bigs and threes. That works for the Orlando Magic sometimes, just like it works for us sometimes. But when it's defended properly, it's useless. Or if you lose your 3 point threats, it becomes really tough to do. We don't have girls that can wait outside and command a defender to stick tight to them. So everyone on the other team can sag into the paint and help defend. That's why I think some mid-range shots would help, easier to make than 3's, but they have a similar affect, forcing the D to respect something other than Devon and the other guards off the dribble, and passes to the post, which I assume (and may be wrong) is the extent of our offense right now.

I could be wrong, I'm not a coach or anything. Just my thoughts from what I remember of this team from my time at LU.

[Purple Haize]

The Mid Range game has disappeared from the game of basketball since the implementation of the 3 pt shot. No one takes a one dribble pull up jumper anymore. Lost art. (Much like passing)