[Purple Haize]

1997 102-52 ODU. (Reeves)
1998 102-58 Tennessee
1999 73-52 Georgia
2000 77-54 LSU (Green)
2001 77-48 Georgia
2002 69-61 South Carolina
2003 54-44 Vanderbilt
2004 78-53 Georgia
2005 78-70 W over Penn State
88-79 W over DePaul
90-48 LSU
2006 68-43 DePaul
2008 82-62 ODU
2009 62-42 Louisville
2010 83-77 Kentucky
2011 62-56 Charlotte WNIT
2012 74-43 Notre Dame

2-15 in post season play.

[jbock13]

1997 102-52 ODU. (Reeves)
1998 102-58 Tennessee
1999 73-52 Georgia
2000 77-54 LSU (Green)
2001 77-48 Georgia
2002 69-61 South Carolina
2003 54-44 Vanderbilt
2004 78-53 Georgia
2005 78-70 W over Penn State
88-79 W over DePaul
90-48 LSU
2006 68-43 DePaul
2008 82-62 ODU
2009 62-42 Louisville
2010 83-77 Kentucky
2011 62-56 Charlotte WNIT
2012 74-43 Notre Dame

2-15 in post season play.

But your missing the most important stat of all. We're 91-0 against non-D1 opponents. You're just trying to make our program look bad !!!!

[Purple Haize]

Ha. It's actually an impressive run. Just wish we had more success. And I'm sure the coaching staff does as well

[BJWilliams]

2 things:

1) Technically Big South Tournament games are considered postseason games (doesn't help things a WHOLE lot just a little something to remember, but yes we are 2-15 in NCAA tournament games)

2) We're 50-19 in conference, but 7 of the losses have been to one team (High Point) in the last 14 seasons.

[Purple Haize]

2 things:

1) Technically Big South Tournament games are considered postseason games (doesn't help things a WHOLE lot just a little something to remember, but yes we are 2-15 in NCAA tournament games)

2) We're 50-19 in conference, but 7 of the losses have been to one team (High Point) in the last 14 seasons.

Really? I mean if you are going to get that technical would you really consider the WNIT an NCAA Tournament game?
How about this:
Non Big South Post Season Tournaments?

[jbock13]

Ha. It's actually an impressive run. Just wish we had more success. And I'm sure the coaching staff does as well

But where is your vision

[Purple Haize]

[BJWilliams]

2 things:

1) Technically Big South Tournament games are considered postseason games (doesn't help things a WHOLE lot just a little something to remember, but yes we are 2-15 in NCAA tournament games)

2) We're 50-19 in conference, but 7 of the losses have been to one team (High Point) in the last 14 seasons.

Really? I mean if you are going to get that technical would you really consider the WNIT an NCAA Tournament game?
How about this:
Non Big South Post Season Tournaments?

Lol...I get your point. We havent had much success in the Big Dance I will agree.

[Chippy]

I think we had a great year. Freshman point guard, Devon's mom dying, Emily Frazier's injury (her dad dying), Jelena Antic leaving early, etc. I say we did okay and represented LU in the NCAA tournament with a decent game against arguably the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country that has 3 first team all conference players and a first team All-American and lost in the championship game last year and will be back this year, IMHO.

There are few mid-majors/low mid-majors who can't compare to our record in the NCAA. 280 teams didn't make the NCAA tournament this year.

[jbock13]

yeah, so we should just be happy with mediocrity year in and year out. At least we win the weakest conference every year!

[Chippy]

yeah, so we should just be happy with mediocrity year in and year out. At least we win the weakest conference every year!

Your answer is what? Recruit Brittany Greiner or Skylar Diggins . . . aint gonna happen. We were blessed to have Katie Feenstra for 4 years. 6'8" Christian girls who are halfway talented are hard to come by. I'd say considering we are in the BSC and we are exclusively Christian we have to accept the limitations that comes with this team. If you were talking about Virginia Tech women's basketball then I can support your argument. With all due respect, you have no argument here.

[jbock13]

okay... so 2-15 in the tourney is okay?

[BJWilliams]

I didnt say it was ok. Id like to see us win more in the tournament too (course we struggled with some of the best players in school history...remember we went undefeated in 1998 and got absolutely smoked in the tournament) but Chippy is right...getting players who are potential all Americans and who happen to be Christian is not exactly an exact science...

[Purple Haize]

I didnt say it was ok. Id like to see us win more in the tournament too (course we struggled with some of the best players in school history...remember we went undefeated in 1998 and got absolutely smoked in the tournament) but Chippy is right...getting players who are potential all Americans and who happen to be Christian is not exactly an exact science...

Not all the players we have had are Christians.

[BJWilliams]

Therein lies the rub then...I know we have a nack for changing lives once they arrive on the mountain but you have to think that is going to wear on the donors eventually, so do you keep going after players that are christian but may need to be "coached up" because they arent exactly McDonald's All Americans or top 150 recruits or do we load up on top flight recruits who may have questionable moral backgrounds?

[ballcoach15]

We should not have been a 16 seed. granted we got blown out at ND, but had we played anywhere other than on someone's home court, we'd had a better showing I think.

[olldflame]

Therein lies the rub then...I know we have a nack for changing lives once they arrive on the mountain but you have to think that is going to wear on the donors eventually, so do you keep going after players that are christian but may need to be "coached up" because they arent exactly McDonald's All Americans or top 150 recruits or do we load up on top flight recruits who may have questionable moral backgrounds?

The last thing we need to do is go after "questionable" recruits. We need to keep working on bringing in more of the top christian athletes, many of whom would consider a school like LU, but feel we can't match the athletic and academic opportunities at a major university. Then add in some who may not be christians, but have been solid citizens, or maybe even some who have had problems, but are sincerely working on getting their lives together and could benefit from the LU experience in all areas.

The fact is, a good player who is "questionable", or even just likes to party is not going to want to be at LU. The only way you can get them to come is to lie to them.

[Chris Lang]

It's really unfair to look at that 2-15 NCAA record without acknowledging that a good chunk of those 15 defeats came in true road games against power-conference teams or traditional women's powers. Even when LU got a 12 seed, it had to play Old Dominion (which was way underseeded itself that year) on its home floor. In 06, LU played AT DePaul. This year, AT Notre Dame, 2001 AT Georgia, 2002 AT South Carolina. The team's best showings (03 vs. Vandy, 05 Sweet 16 run and the 10 loss to Kentucky) came when LU actually got neutral-court matchups. I don't think that's mediocrity as much as it's the reality of women's basketball. They'll never go to a true, total neutral setup, so schools from conferences like the Big South are going to have to continue to deal with getting shipped on the road for nearly impossible matchups.

[olldflame]

Well put Chris. As long as we are in the BSC, we will face this, and the only way to get past it would be to schedule a bunch of power teams (on the road of course) during the pre-conference season and beat some of them. Even then, chances are we get under-seeded. It only only makes sense for Cary to try to put together a schedule like that if he really thinks we are loaded that year, and even then, it's a gamble.

[BJWilliams]

It's really unfair to look at that 2-15 NCAA record without acknowledging that a good chunk of those 15 defeats came in true road games against power-conference teams or traditional women's powers. Even when LU got a 12 seed, it had to play Old Dominion (which was way underseeded itself that year) on its home floor. In 06, LU played AT DePaul. This year, AT Notre Dame, 2001 AT Georgia, 2002 AT South Carolina. The team's best showings (03 vs. Vandy, 05 Sweet 16 run and the 10 loss to Kentucky) came when LU actually got neutral-court matchups. I don't think that's mediocrity as much as it's the reality of women's basketball. They'll never go to a true, total neutral setup, so schools from conferences like the Big South are going to have to continue to deal with getting shipped on the road for nearly impossible matchups.

Id give comments like this ^^ a bit more credence than comments like this VV

yeah, so we should just be happy with mediocrity year in and year out. At least we win the weakest conference every year!

[jbock13]

Yeah Beej, we know you really really really love Lang.

I don't really disagree with him either. If we played a tougher schedule, and (god forbid) won games against good competition, we could get out of that rut and be a 12 seed.

Second, I get that there's only so many Christian players. But look around. Compromising does happen to bring in talent. As well, there are plenty on folks who come to Liberty as nonchristians. Mainly because their parents force them to come here.

[jcmanson]

If winning our conference tournament 14 out of 16 years is mediocrity, sign me up!

[olldflame]

No need to comprimise. There are way more than enough really good athletes who are a fit for LU. We will never get them all, but right now we are barely scratching the surface. As we continue to improve our overall profile with upgraded facilities increased exposure and improved academics, more top level prospects will chose Liberty.

[jbock13]

I truly hope you are right olldflame.

It's easy to win a conference when there's no good teams at all playing in it.

[jcmanson]

It's easy to win a conference when there's no good teams at all playing in it.

No it's not. We're in the same conference.