[SuperJon]

Anything could be better. It's good enough that you shouldn't put blame on the athletic department by saying they don't market it well enough.


It's a matter of "is it worth spending our money?"

Is it worth it to the athletic department to spend $___ to get an extra 200 fans to a women's game, or is it better the spend the same amount and get an extra 1000 to a men's game?

You're a SMGT major, you know this stuff. It's a simple matter of what will actually make us money and what will cost us money?

[SuperJon]

so do you go to women's soccer games? or do you go to any women's sporting event?

Women's soccer is somewhat entertaining. It's much more entertaining than women's basketball.

I only went to one game this year because of my work schedule. I wanted to travel to the UVA game for them and a few others, but I was working.

Women's basketball is just torture.

[thesportscritic]

Anything could be better. It's good enough that you shouldn't put blame on the athletic department by saying they don't market it well enough.


It's a matter of "is it worth spending our money?"

Is it worth it to the athletic department to spend $___ to get an extra 200 fans to a women's game, or is it better the spend the same amount and get an extra 1000 to a men's game?

You're a SMGT major, you know this stuff. It's a simple matter of what will actually make us money and what will cost us money?

When you have a winning team men's or women's they deserve the most attention. so you are saying just market men's sports and leave the women high and dry? whatever

[thesportscritic]

so do you go to women's soccer games? or do you go to any women's sporting event?

Women's soccer is somewhat entertaining. It's much more entertaining than women's basketball.

I only went to one game this year because of my work schedule. I wanted to travel to the UVA game for them and a few others, but I was working.

Women's basketball is just torture.

how so is women's soccer entertaining? even some men's sports are tortourous to watch.

[SuperJon]

If you're a soccer fan, women's soccer can be entertaining. If you're not a fan of soccer, I don't expect you to give a crap about women's soccer.


What I mean by the marketing, is that no matter how good the women's team is, there's a cap at how much interest there will be simply because of the sport. There is little chance they can average close to 2000 for a year. It's because of the sport. There is no reason to spend a ton of extra money. Spend the allotted amount and promote the games that way. You won't be seeing big giveaways and things like that at women's games.

The WNBA has tried every way possible to market their league but the product is just plain boring so people don't go.

[thesportscritic]

actually the WNBA has actually grown a bit over the last few years. i know they don't get the attention like the NBA does but the majority of the franchises are averaging some good numbers in terms of attendance.

[SuperJon]

It may have grown, but is it anywhere close to it's male counterpart? No, it's not.

[thesportscritic]

The NBA has been around much longer than the WNBA. it is growing and it takes time. we all know that it is not the calibre of the NBA but there are people who care. Back to the Radford game.

[SuperJon]

This game is getting marketed the way it should be. Why anyone would complain about the marketing of women's basketball is beyond me.

[thesportscritic]

i have complained about it since i started going to this school and you just started going here only 2 years ago.

[SuperJon]

What the tick does that matter? Does that mean that I know less about what I'm talking about than you?

This is my third semester here and I know more about what's being done than 90% of the school so how long I've been here means absofrickinlutely nothing.

You've complained about it for 2 years but then again, nothing else is up to your level either, so I should expect it.

[thesportscritic]

try 6 years.

[SuperJon]

Ok, you've complained about it for six years. I still would expect nothing less.

[thesportscritic]

What the tick does that matter? Does that mean that I know less about what I'm talking about than you?

This is my third semester here and I know more about what's being done than 90% of the school so how long I've been here means absofrickinlutely nothing.

and it doesn't matter. all i am saying is that i have complained about the marketing for women's basketball for a long time.

[SuperJon]

I'm sure you have.

You also have been the most critical person of the team this year even though they have an 11-8 record and have lost all but one of our games by less than ten points. Even in wins you've complained about the team instead of giving them credit.

I expect nothing less.

[thesportscritic]

so lets see what JB and the rest of the Athletic Department will do in terms of marketing the teams.

[thesportscritic]

I'm sure you have.

You also have been the most critical person of the team this year even though they have an 11-8 record and have lost all but one of our games by less than ten points. Even in wins you've complained about the team instead of giving them credit.

I expect nothing less.

its the way that we have lost. i am not going to argue with you on this subject again.

[thesportscritic]

i have not just been critical on the women's team by the way.

[Sly Fox]

Have you guys heard of a telephone?

[ATrain]

Honestly, I also think our student body has grown accustomed to us winning the Big South, so until we get to the next level which is consistently making it past the 1st round of the NCAAs, then our crowds will be about the same.

[thesportscritic]

Have you guys heard of a telephone?

haha

[SuperJon]

i have not just been critical on the women's team by the way.

No, just every team.

[thesportscritic]

i have not just been critical on the women's team by the way.

No, just every team.

if you would like i can sugarcoat everything now. the teams who have beaten us were the better teams on those particular days.

[fsn32]

There are two sides to this and parts of what both you say that are right...

1. Women's sports don't draw as much as Men's sports (shy of figure skating and gymnastics and maybe tennis.)

2. An athletic department should promote ALL events (and I think we do.)

Having been here years ( 98 ) when the women outdrew the men... it can happen. Tennessee's women have outdrawn their men some seasons... UCONN comes close... K-State and others do as well...so to dismiss the notion that attendance can increase is not fair. 1500 on a Monday Night for Winthrop was a pretty good crowd.

Also to say that the Athletic Department doesn't promote the events is not fair... everything I have seen and heard about Saturday says "Doubleheader."

At most of the schools with large women's basketball attendance, the community shows up as the biggest majority of the crowd. At big games the students show up as well. Look at Tennessee last weekend when they had almost 22,000. The students showed up big... I'm sure it didn't hurt that Bruce Pearl was there in body paint, but that crowd was going to be there anyway... the cool thing about Pearl is that now the students will probably continue to follow the team based on the image he showed in the media.

The size of the Vines doesn't help either... If we had High Points gym and averaged 1200, that would be a great home court advantage.

In the perfect world, the men's team would average 6,000 and sell out the big games... the women's team would average 2,500 and get 5,000 for the big games. With the student body growing along with the success of the program... it is possible.

As far as supporting certain sports and not others... I guess I just grew up as a sports junkie... when I got to LU, I went to every event, men's or women's. Heck if we had a dog sled team I would have probably showed up.

I understand that men's sports tend to be more exciting because of the speed of the male athlete... but on some levels the women's game is more fundamentally sound in many sports. Other than maybe a couple examples... there are not many women's basketball teams that employ streetball as an offense...the same can't be said for the men's side... and certainly not in the NBA.

[thesportscritic]

good points fsn32