The most successful program on Liberty Mountain deserves its own forum. We give Coach Green and the Lady Flames their props while breaking down their run to the Big Dance once again.

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By ECC29
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It’s majestic how a team rises to a new level if you play the right group of players on the court. I still do not understand how Moore is not a starter. Rotate Stout and Mills in. This should be it the rest of the season. Maybe Aegisdotter to give Moore a break. The team has a strong 7 players rotation.
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By flamehunter
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The ladies have been impressive this season. Carey Green perhaps wins CUSA COY well after many on here thought he should have been replaced a couple years ago. I'd say good thing he stuck around. 8)
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By ECC29
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Green was lucky Mills got hit. First, he allowed WKU to go on a long run without calling a timeout. It would have saved some points. Second, He did not learn from the last game success. He limited Moore’s minutes in the first half. Then when she played more minutes in the 3rd quarter, they had the best quarter of the game. Green is attached to Aegisdotter and Pien. Pien made too many mistakes and she is slow. WKU is not that good. They were lucky to get a win and a couple of players got hot. That was no coaching genius today. If people can actually see the inside part of a basketball game, then you would know my point. It’s time to pass it on to another coach. I would give him some credit for recruiting Mills and Stout. I’ve said in the beginning that those players have the skill set to compete at this level. But they also went to LCA and had all the intention to come to LU. It did not take much to recruit them. The program needs a coach that can draw better players and stop recruiting slow European players.
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By flamehunter
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ECC29 wrote: March 8th, 2025, 7:30 pm Green was lucky Mills got hit. First, he allowed WKU to go on a long run without calling a timeout. It would have saved some points. Second, He did not learn from the last game success. He limited Moore’s minutes in the first half. Then when she played more minutes in the 3rd quarter, they had the best quarter of the game. Green is attached to Aegisdotter and Pien. Pien made too many mistakes and she is slow. WKU is not that good. They were lucky to get a win and a couple of players got hot. That was no coaching genius today. If people can actually see the inside part of a basketball game, then you would know my point. It’s time to pass it on to another coach. I would give him some credit for recruiting Mills and Stout. I’ve said in the beginning that those players have the skill set to compete at this level. But they also went to LCA and had all the intention to come to LU. It did not take much to recruit them. The program needs a coach that can draw better players and stop recruiting slow European players.
I'll continue to support Coach Green until he's ready to retire. And I have a feeling 99% of Liberty fans and the administration will too. Perhaps you can find another team to support that will listen to your expert opinions.
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By JK37
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Or another place to go where they like your incessant Coach Bashing. It’s approximately 93% of your posts.

As my Mama used to say, “Nobody likes a know-it-all.”
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By cruzan_flame13
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JK37 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 8:55 am Or another place to go where they like your incessant Coach Bashing. It’s approximately 93% of your posts.

As my Mama used to say, “Nobody likes a know-it-all.”
That is a very used quote/saying, but then there's another perspective that will never be accepted by the majority:

"What the herd hates most is the one who
thinks differently; it is not so much the opinion
itself, but the audacity of wanting to think for
themselves, something that they do not know
how to do."

Just a thought :lol:
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By cruzan_flame13
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JK37 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 1:36 pm You think questioning a coach is “thinking differently”?
Literally a part of the process of having a different opinion on how someone else is making decisions in which one may not agree with. I'll pretend you didn't reply that for your sake.
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By cruzan_flame13
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flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 5:05 pm A different opinion fueled by an obvious bias for or against someone is not at all what that quote is referring to.
Sounds like that can be portrayed as someone moving the goal post whenever they please. How is it "obvious"? Is it because the majority agree with you based on favoring that specific person who's of topic? Seems like folks are getting too emotional and assuming that the person's opinion about the coach's action on the court is the same as belittling his character as a whole.
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By ECC29
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I absolutely do not and will not belittle Coach Green’s character and who he is. I heard so many great things he has done with the players when it comes to sharing the gospel and shepherding his players. He is an awesome ambassador for Christ. My view is about basketball. It’s just business. I started my opinion about Green when the time LU transferred to CUSA and the many talks about moving to a bigger or competitive conference. So we if the program is to compete and rise up to the next level, my opinion is it will not be Green. From the beginning, I view Green’s ability to recruit high level talents as lacking of. Evidence shows that. One can compare athletic abilities from LU players to other top school. Since the ASUN,FGCU owned LU. A mid major FGCU coach seemed to be able to find better talent than Green. FGCU was able to get ranked in the top 25 a few times. Also the same for MTSU. Green continues to bring in slower players and not up to speed when playing against bigger school. This is my view. The issue is that too many people have their noses deep into Green’s you know what. Some people here take things personally. It’s too bad. Reminds me of the liberal Democrats, that when you say things different from them, they crucify you. I feel that I have a good view point. It’s still my opinion.
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By flamehunter
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And yet here we are, winning the regular season in a better conference and you still beat the same drum, failing to give him any credit for a remarkable season. Forgive me for being a little skeptical of your intentions.
By flamehunter
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cruzan_flame13 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 7:37 pm
flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 5:05 pm A different opinion fueled by an obvious bias for or against someone is not at all what that quote is referring to.
Sounds like that can be portrayed as someone moving the goal post whenever they please. How is it "obvious"? Is it because the majority agree with you based on favoring that specific person who's of topic? Seems like folks are getting too emotional and assuming that the person's opinion about the coach's action on the court is the same as belittling his character as a whole.
If you can't see how it's obvious it's because you don't want to see it. I never said anything about him belittling his character. The rest of your post makes no sense.
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By Purple Haize
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ECC29 wrote: March 8th, 2025, 7:30 pm Green was lucky Mills got hit. First, he allowed WKU to go on a long run without calling a timeout. It would have saved some points. Second, He did not learn from the last game success. He limited Moore’s minutes in the first half. Then when she played more minutes in the 3rd quarter, they had the best quarter of the game. Green is attached to Aegisdotter and Pien. Pien made too many mistakes and she is slow. WKU is not that good. They were lucky to get a win and a couple of players got hot. That was no coaching genius today. If people can actually see the inside part of a basketball game, then you would know my point. It’s time to pass it on to another coach. I would give him some credit for recruiting Mills and Stout. I’ve said in the beginning that those players have the skill set to compete at this level. But they also went to LCA and had all the intention to come to LU. It did not take much to recruit them. The program needs a coach that can draw better players and stop recruiting slow European players.
LU just won CUSA and beat the bageezers out of MTSU. That’s an impressive feat. We don’t know if your suggestions would have helped or not. What we do know is that what Green did, whether you like it or not, was win the toughest conference they’ve ever been in. That deserves something more than nitpicking
By ECC29
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flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 9:02 pm And yet here we are, winning the regular season in a better conference and you still beat the same drum, failing to give him any credit for a remarkable season. Forgive me for being a little skeptical of your intentions.
Other than MTSU, you really believe that the other CUSA women’s basketball team are legit? Only 5 teams has a winning record. At least 3 of those did not play anyone legit. You say I beat the same drum, it is because it’s the same every year. It’s the same slow players he recruits every year. His decision making as of late is very questionable. He might have a chance this year for conference championship but comes playing against top school, the team does not have athletic abilities to compete. You maybe satisfied winning against low level teams. I am talking about raising the level of the program to compete against the bigger school.
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By cruzan_flame13
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ECC29 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 10:01 pm
flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 9:02 pm And yet here we are, winning the regular season in a better conference and you still beat the same drum, failing to give him any credit for a remarkable season. Forgive me for being a little skeptical of your intentions.
Other than MTSU, you really believe that the other CUSA women’s basketball team are legit? Only 5 teams has a winning record. At least 3 of those did not play anyone legit. You say I beat the same drum, it is because it’s the same every year. It’s the same slow players he recruits every year. His decision making as of late is very questionable. He might have a chance this year for conference championship but comes playing against top school, the team does not have athletic abilities to compete. You maybe satisfied winning against low level teams. I am talking about raising the level of the program to compete against the bigger school.
We have to slowly get better for a few years, and then maybe we can get to do so. We have to "wait our turn, " then maybe althletic players will want to come here without any effort from the coach(es) . I mean, have you seen our facilities?! It's as good and even better than some P4 schools! That alone should make the good players want to come to this school! :roll:

For those who have trouble understanding, I am being sarcastic :lol:
By JK37
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I’ve never been a Green apologist. Anyone who knows me, knows that much. I’ve said for two decades I wished we’d get more athletic. And while we have, there’s still a greater emphasis on size and control.

That being said, @ECC29 your animus towards coaches isn’t limited to Green. Every post about basketball, baseball or softball seems to blame coaching. I was simply pointing out that there is an obvious pattern, and it makes it very difficult to take you seriously.

FGCU coach was not a mid major coach. He turned down numerous P4/5 jobs over the years. He is notorious for not recruiting while at FGCU. (He played the transfer portal often, before it was en vogue.) And now he’s a head coach in the WNBA.
By flamehunter
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ECC29 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 10:01 pm
flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 9:02 pm And yet here we are, winning the regular season in a better conference and you still beat the same drum, failing to give him any credit for a remarkable season. Forgive me for being a little skeptical of your intentions.
Other than MTSU, you really believe that the other CUSA women’s basketball team are legit? Only 5 teams has a winning record. At least 3 of those did not play anyone legit. You say I beat the same drum, it is because it’s the same every year. It’s the same slow players he recruits every year. His decision making as of late is very questionable. He might have a chance this year for conference championship but comes playing against top school, the team does not have athletic abilities to compete. You maybe satisfied winning against low level teams. I am talking about raising the level of the program to compete against the bigger school.
Gotcha. I'm pretty sure that we could go to the national title game with Coach Green, lose in triple overtime and you would still say he's not the one to lead us to the next level. You be you and be miserable as a "fan" of the Flames and I'll enjoy watching them play where we are at and rooting for them and love that we are more than a business at LU. It's about changing lives as well as winning and bringing glory to God whatever happens.
(Jesus juke)
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By Purple Haize
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flamehunter wrote: March 10th, 2025, 7:48 am
ECC29 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 10:01 pm
flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 9:02 pm And yet here we are, winning the regular season in a better conference and you still beat the same drum, failing to give him any credit for a remarkable season. Forgive me for being a little skeptical of your intentions.
Other than MTSU, you really believe that the other CUSA women’s basketball team are legit? Only 5 teams has a winning record. At least 3 of those did not play anyone legit. You say I beat the same drum, it is because it’s the same every year. It’s the same slow players he recruits every year. His decision making as of late is very questionable. He might have a chance this year for conference championship but comes playing against top school, the team does not have athletic abilities to compete. You maybe satisfied winning against low level teams. I am talking about raising the level of the program to compete against the bigger school.
Gotcha. I'm pretty sure that we could go to the national title game with Coach Green, lose in triple overtime and you would still say he's not the one to lead us to the next level. You be you and be miserable as a "fan" of the Flames and I'll enjoy watching them play where we are at and rooting for them and love that we are more than a business at LU. It's about changing lives as well as winning and bringing glory to God whatever happens.
(Jesus juke)
I’m just here to acknowledge and give props to the Jesus Juke
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By jmclaughlin
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Just flipped on the lady Flames tourney game and heard the broadcast team give a recap of the first round game between Sam Houston and Jax State...54 turnovers and 48 fouls in the game!! Holy moly that is unthinkable.
By ECC29
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flamehunter wrote: March 10th, 2025, 7:48 am
ECC29 wrote: March 9th, 2025, 10:01 pm
flamehunter wrote: March 9th, 2025, 9:02 pm And yet here we are, winning the regular season in a better conference and you still beat the same drum, failing to give him any credit for a remarkable season. Forgive me for being a little skeptical of your intentions.
Other than MTSU, you really believe that the other CUSA women’s basketball team are legit? Only 5 teams has a winning record. At least 3 of those did not play anyone legit. You say I beat the same drum, it is because it’s the same every year. It’s the same slow players he recruits every year. His decision making as of late is very questionable. He might have a chance this year for conference championship but comes playing against top school, the team does not have athletic abilities to compete. You maybe satisfied winning against low level teams. I am talking about raising the level of the program to compete against the bigger school.
Gotcha. I'm pretty sure that we could go to the national title game with Coach Green, lose in triple overtime and you would still say he's not the one to lead us to the next level. You be you and be miserable as a "fan" of the Flames and I'll enjoy watching them play where we are at and rooting for them and love that we are more than a business at LU. It's about changing lives as well as winning and bringing glory to God whatever happens.
(Jesus juke)
First of all you are living a fantasy world in making a state that the team will make the National title. Men’s basketball coach McKay is changing lives at the same time a better coach. The program can get someone else to elevate the program and can change lives for players through Christ. In my opinion, the program still need a coach that can bring in better athletes.
By flamehunter
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I don't think we will make the national title game. It's called a hypothetical state(ment)- meant to illustrate my opinion of your unreasonable dislike for Coach Green's abilities. Personally I think Coach Green is the best thing that ever happened to the LU women's basketball program. Could there have been someone better to lead it for the past couple decades? Maybe, but it didn't happen that way, so I choose to celebrate all the successes they've enjoyed during his tenure. It's called being a fan with a healthy dose a realism.
Now, please provide examples of the better coaches you think we should get and will do what you are saying. That would be a much better use of your time than repeatedly stating the same thing over and over.
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