The most successful program on Liberty Mountain deserves its own forum. We give Coach Green and the Lady Flames their props while breaking down their run to the Big Dance once again.

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#424427
Call me crazy. I am surprised at the score. I believe this is on of our worse defeats in NCAA tourney. With Brown leaving it is going to be the first year in a while without a star like Brown, Warley, or Frazee. We just lost out there today.
#424429
krh44 wrote:Call me crazy. I am surprised at the score. I believe this is on of our worse defeats in NCAA tourney. With Brown leaving it is going to be the first year in a while without a star like Brown, Warley, or Frazee. We just lost out there today.
I don't think the loss of Brown will be as big as some people think.
#424432
krh44 wrote:Call me crazy. I am surprised at the score. I believe this is on of our worse defeats in NCAA tourney. With Brown leaving it is going to be the first year in a while without a star like Brown, Warley, or Frazee. We just lost out there today.
. . or Feenstra or Kisseleva.
By thepostman
#424433
jbock13 wrote:(insert my typical end of the year comment here about coaching)
I am with you to an extent...but if we made a switch could it be for the worse? That would be the risk in making a move like that and then that special thing you had for so long is gone and it takes a long time to build back
#424438
Chippy wrote:
krh44 wrote:Call me crazy. I am surprised at the score. I believe this is on of our worse defeats in NCAA tourney. With Brown leaving it is going to be the first year in a while without a star like Brown, Warley, or Frazee. We just lost out there today.
. . or Feenstra or Kisseleva.
Or Sara or Sharon.
#424441
thepostman wrote:
jbock13 wrote:(insert my typical end of the year comment here about coaching)
I am with you to an extent...but if we made a switch could it be for the worse? That would be the risk in making a move like that and then that special thing you had for so long is gone and it takes a long time to build back
Good question. If we're okay with just winning Big South championships in a conference that nobody cares, then we're on track to do that. However if the goal is to be competitive on a national level, then the results speak for themselves.

Second, I know Green isn't going anywhere. So it's why I don't constantly mention it anymore.
#424445
LUGrad2000 wrote:
Chippy wrote:
krh44 wrote:Call me crazy. I am surprised at the score. I believe this is on of our worse defeats in NCAA tourney. With Brown leaving it is going to be the first year in a while without a star like Brown, Warley, or Frazee. We just lost out there today.
. . or Feenstra or Kisseleva.
Or Sara or Sharon.
They would have been more important today since both could dribble without looking at the ball.
#424446
BuryYourDuke wrote:There is no reason to replace Green. A better coach would do almost nothing. This is purely about the conference.
Disagree. We recruit based on height. But our players are very slow compared to a national level.
By Svandive
#424449
I am convinced that Coach Green is a great coach I am thankful we have him. I am worried that losses like this would have him looking elsewhere to get into a more competitive conference where he can recruit better to better prepare him for tourney time.
By thepostman
#424450
I think the point is if we didn't play in the Big South we could recruit better talent. I don't completely agree with that and am not the biggest coach Green fan, but its tough to fire someone who continues to win the conference championship ever year. Its just not going to happen
#424452
Svandive wrote:I am convinced that Coach Green is a great coach I am thankful we have him. I am worried that losses like this would have him looking elsewhere to get into a more competitive conference where he can recruit better to better prepare him for tourney time.
He plays a competitive schedule. He has the resources. Losses like this won't have him looking.
ODU dominated the CAA for years and it was a horrid conference yet went to the Final Four etc. It's not a conference issue.
#424466
BuryYourDuke wrote:Maybe so. I don't believe we will be significantly better until we change conferences though.
Why? If kids want to win Conference Championships and play in the NCAA they can do that here and now. Moving conferences isn't going to change that. The argument may hold true with football but not so much with basketball (Men or Women)
#424478
Purple Haize wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:Maybe so. I don't believe we will be significantly better until we change conferences though.
Why? If kids want to win Conference Championships and play in the NCAA they can do that here and now. Moving conferences isn't going to change that. The argument may hold true with football but not so much with basketball (Men or Women)
We're still Liberty. We are challenged in the recruiting battles since we want good student athletes who have a heart for the Lord. Moving up in a conference does nothing but limit us in our opportunities to get to the NCAAs. We played without 2 starters and played a team that just won the Big 10 conference. I'm disappointed like the rest of you and am already looking forward to next year to see how the team develops without this group of seniors.
#424492
Purple Haize wrote:ODU dominated the CAA for years and it was a horrid conference yet went to the Final Four etc. It's not a conference issue.
Women's college basketball might as well be a completely different sport at this point. There was no competition in those days except for 1-2 programs. Now there are multiple teams per conference that are good to very good in each major conference. It's much more difficult to compete that way these days.
#424497
NotAJerry wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:ODU dominated the CAA for years and it was a horrid conference yet went to the Final Four etc. It's not a conference issue.
Women's college basketball might as well be a completely different sport at this point. There was no competition in those days except for 1-2 programs. Now there are multiple teams per conference that are good to very good in each major conference. It's much more difficult to compete that way these days.
That makes no sense. More difficult to compete what way? We dominate our conference, shouldn't we expect to have success outside of it? Leaving the Big South will not do much if anything to increase the level of recruit we get. Coach Green does an excellent job of getting players that fit his system. Changing conferences will not improve that. In fact, it would probably hurt it.
#424502
A higher level of competition in conference may help prepare our ladies for tournament play, but I agree about recruiting. For the last several years we have been able to use an almost sure NCAA bid as a tool in getting players to come to LU who may have other opportunities, but like the faith aspect of the school and the winning tradition of our WBB program. Moving to a conference we won´t be able to dominate so thoroughly will necessitate a different approach at the very least.

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