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Re: What is going on?

Post by ballcoach15 » January 10th, 2019, 3:59 pm

thepostman wrote:Vague enough where it would be nearly impossible to be wrong. Bold.
What's the old saying ? "run with the big dogs or stay under the porch" (or something like that)

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Re: What is going on?

Post by Purple Haize » January 10th, 2019, 4:11 pm

Doesn’t LU CURRENTLY have a WBB HC with P5 experience?
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Purple Haize wrote:Doesn’t LU CURRENTLY have a WBB HC with P5 experience?

Yes, Clemson University (Assistant Coach)

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Post by cruzan_flame13 » January 10th, 2019, 4:40 pm

ballcoach15 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:Doesn’t LU CURRENTLY have a WBB HC with P5 experience?

Yes, Clemson University (Assistant Coach)
I believe that Assistant coach has moved on mut we do have another assistant who also played in the WNBA (she played on a rival high school years ago up in NOVA).

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Re: What is going on?

Post by ballcoach15 » January 10th, 2019, 4:45 pm

Are you talking about Moncia Wright ? I saw her play in high school. (and at UVA).

She had a beautiful jump shot. I went to a game at UVA once, just to watch her play. Only game I have ever attended in John Paul Jones' place.

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Post by flamehunter » January 10th, 2019, 4:53 pm

cruzan_flame13 wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:Doesn’t LU CURRENTLY have a WBB HC with P5 experience?

Yes, Clemson University (Assistant Coach)
I believe that Assistant coach has moved on mut we do have another assistant who also played in the WNBA (she played on a rival high school years ago up in NOVA).
Carey Green was an assistant at Clemson before coming to the mountain.

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Re: What is going on?

Post by cruzan_flame13 » January 10th, 2019, 5:16 pm

I thought he meant the assistant coach who was with coach Green, not Green himself.

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Post by oldflame » January 10th, 2019, 5:30 pm

Considering the fact that at least 3/4 of the viable candidates for a job like this would likely be P5 assistants, ballcoach is not exactly going out on a limb. A highly successful G5 HC who is looking for more $ and/or is attracted to the school's mission would be another possibility.

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Post by ballcoach15 » January 10th, 2019, 5:59 pm

oldflame wrote:Considering the fact that at least 3/4 of the viable candidates for a job like this would likely be P5 assistants, ballcoach is not exactly going out on a limb. A highly successful G5 HC who is looking for more $ and/or is attracted to the school's mission would be another possibility.
Very true, But We need a "home run" hire.

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Post by Purple Haize » January 10th, 2019, 6:10 pm

oldflame wrote:Considering the fact that at least 3/4 of the viable candidates for a job like this would likely be P5 assistants, ballcoach is not exactly going out on a limb. A highly successful G5 HC who is looking for more $ and/or is attracted to the school's mission would be another possibility.
That’s why I pointed out the CURRENT head coach falls under those parameters. So to think they go that route again isn’t a shocker.
I’m always a guy like your second scenario. But I don’t make the decisions
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Post by ballah09 » January 10th, 2019, 6:15 pm

There's a coach in the Big South that turned around a fellow in-state program around that would be interested and he would be a home run hire but that's just my opinion.

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Post by oldflame » January 10th, 2019, 6:18 pm

Purple Haize wrote:
oldflame wrote:Considering the fact that at least 3/4 of the viable candidates for a job like this would likely be P5 assistants, ballcoach is not exactly going out on a limb. A highly successful G5 HC who is looking for more $ and/or is attracted to the school's mission would be another possibility.
That’s why I pointed out the CURRENT head coach falls under those parameters. So to think they go that route again isn’t a shocker.
I’m always a guy like your second scenario. But I don’t make the decisions
Yeah, you have been pretty clear where you stand on that. FYI, Green ranks 18th in winning % among current D1 HCs. 7 of the coaches with better records are with non P5 schools. Topping that list is Karl Smesko of FGCU, who has an .810 winning %, trailing only Auriemma, Mulkey and VanDermeer.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_basketb ... aching.pdf

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Post by Cider Jim » January 10th, 2019, 7:08 pm

ballah09 wrote:There's a coach in the Big South that turned around a fellow in-state program around
I think the Big South is in LU's rear view mirror. I don't see us going there for HCs. :nono
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Post by ballcoach15 » January 10th, 2019, 7:13 pm

I say go aft Geno. Swing for the fence.

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Post by ballah09 » January 10th, 2019, 7:53 pm

Cider Jim wrote:
ballah09 wrote:There's a coach in the Big South that turned around a fellow in-state program around
I think the Big South is in LU's rear view mirror. I don't see us going there for HCs. :nono
Right don't go after the coach whose program just surpassed you only because they play in a conference that we think we're too good for. The arrogance :roll:

BTW CJ I'm referencing Mike McGuire. Wins games against p5 teams and won a couple games in the NIT. Turned Radford from a doormat into a solid mid major program.

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Post by BJWilliams » January 10th, 2019, 8:15 pm

With all due respect Ballah, you do know that Liberty went 8-2 against Radford in the 10 meetings between the two over Coach Mcguire's 5 seasons prior to LU joining.the ASUN this season? That isn't to say that if the two met this year the results might be different, but the Highs didnt quite surpass the Flames before their departure. Have we taken a major step back this year? Most assuredly. Has Radford surpassed us long term? Hard to say definitively since we won't face off again except for the odd non-conference game...and even if/when HCCG does end his time as head coach, he won't have another chance to truly prove that Radford has passed Liberty where it matters...on the court.
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Post by thepostman » January 10th, 2019, 8:19 pm

Radford has indeed passed us by. With all do respect

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Post by BJWilliams » January 10th, 2019, 9:04 pm

thepostman wrote:Radford has indeed passed us by. With all due respect
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Re: What is going on?

Post by thepostman » January 10th, 2019, 9:46 pm

Cool. Good rebutle

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Post by JK37 » January 10th, 2019, 9:53 pm

Mike McGuire can flat out COACH. Very good staff as a whole. I’d be a little surprised if he was interested in LU. But if he wins Big South this year, his process there is complete, so he’d be ready for a new one. LU has better $$$, better facilities, more staff, etc.

Radford has not surpassed Liberty as a program. A 1-year regression by LU is what we’re seeing. And it could very well turn into more than an anomaly. But LU was in the NCAA Tournament last year. When did Radford last appear?

ASUN is absolutely a better women’s conference than Big South.

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Post by Purple Haize » January 10th, 2019, 10:06 pm

Yeah. LU WBB has taken a big step up in terms of conference competition
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Post by Jonathan Carone » January 10th, 2019, 10:08 pm

Here’s a question for you:

If I said you had to bet a significant amount of money one way or the other, would you bet that Carey will win an ASun title at some point or will never win an ASun title?

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Post by thepostman » January 10th, 2019, 10:09 pm

JK37 wrote:Mike McGuire can flat out COACH. Very good staff as a whole. I’d be a little surprised if he was interested in LU. But if he wins Big South this year, his process there is complete, so he’d be ready for a new one. LU has better $$$, better facilities, more staff, etc.

Radford has not surpassed Liberty as a program. A 1-year regression by LU is what we’re seeing. And it could very well turn into more than an anomaly. But LU was in the NCAA Tournament last year. When did Radford last appear?

ASUN is absolutely a better women’s conference than Big South.
I don't view this as a 1 year regression so I guess that is why it appears to me that Radford has surpassed us

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Post by JK37 » January 10th, 2019, 10:27 pm

thepostman wrote:
JK37 wrote:Mike McGuire can flat out COACH. Very good staff as a whole. I’d be a little surprised if he was interested in LU. But if he wins Big South this year, his process there is complete, so he’d be ready for a new one. LU has better $$$, better facilities, more staff, etc.

Radford has not surpassed Liberty as a program. A 1-year regression by LU is what we’re seeing. And it could very well turn into more than an anomaly. But LU was in the NCAA Tournament last year. When did Radford last appear?

ASUN is absolutely a better women’s conference than Big South.
I don't view this as a 1 year regression so I guess that is why it appears to me that Radford has surpassed us
Fair enough. What do you view it as?

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Re: What is going on?

Post by oldflame » January 11th, 2019, 9:39 am

Jonathan Carone wrote:Here’s a question for you:

If I said you had to bet a significant amount of money one way or the other, would you bet that Carey will win an ASun title at some point or will never win an ASun title?
I don't know if your question was for the board or aimed at someone in particular, but my bet would be no as long as Smesko is at FGCU.

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