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List your Top 5 pure shooters in LU History: interested in everybodys thoughts

I'm completely unqualified to answer this question since the best I've seen at Liberty was David Dees. But surely there had to be better than him. Travis Eisentrout?

Matt Hildebrand

Were talking about pure shooters, not scorers!

1. Jay Boykin
2. Karl Hess
3. Darren Hall
4. Matt Hildebrand
5. Barry Taylor

so a pure shooter cant do anything else but catch and shoot? I'll disagree.

HMO & Scar, get on here and tell this LUCONN how good Jay Boykin was... Obviously LUCONN is a young buck who is still in school and hadn't seen the best that LU has to offer.

#1 Matt Hildebrand- 64% 3fg as soph, 92% ft
#2 Larry Blair
#3 Jay Boykin
#4 Tyler Baker
#5 Edwin Miller

I even started out saying I'm unqualified to answer since I haven't really seen a great shooter at LU but I've only been watching since about 98 or 99. But even so, a player can be a "great pure shooter" and be able to do other things. I'm not still in school either.

[quote="Guest"]Were talking about pure shooters, not scorers!

1. Jay Boykin
2. Karl Hess
3. Matt Hildebrand
4. Sarah Wilkerson
5. Larry Jackson

I agree with some of your shooters GUEST. Be ware if I am on your side though. NO ONE will like you at that point!!

Girls don't count

LUconn wrote:Girls don't count

The post says 5 TOP SHOOTERS......... Not 5 top men's shooters. I am just following the rules!

Cj Cowgill for sure. Great Shooter. The best since 98.

I'm gonna go with my roommate my freshman year. He regularly went to shooting ranges up in PA. He could clear out clay disks like nobody's business.

LUconn wrote:Girls don't count

There are girls who can shoot better than the men.

I've made 17 3's in a row and 26-29 in practice does that count?

thesportscritic wrote:

LUconn wrote:Girls don't count

There are girls who can shoot better than the men.

when they're shooting against women

LUconn wrote:

thesportscritic wrote:

LUconn wrote:Girls don't count

There are girls who can shoot better than the men.

when they're shooting against women

OK To start the hijacking of this thread....... I would like to see the 3 best Lady Flammers and the 3 best Men Flammers in a head to head 3 pt shooting contest. This year it would probably be close but not the last few years. The ladies would BURY them.

haha, I knew as soon as I said girls dont count I knew I'd be having this argument with thesportscritic but I didn't see it coming from you brokeback. Are we talking about just a 3 point contest NBA allstart weekend style or something more along the lines of in game situations. like with defenders and stuff.

I am not touching the women vs men debate but this is a tough thing to quantify since I was not around much during the Hankinson era but CJ Cowgill must have been pretty good. Here is my attempt.

Edwin Miller (Played during the Hildo years but left early)
Jay Boykin - Jay shot 75% from 3 for the 1st ten game of his freshman year before a season ending knee injury. To put it in perspective, Jay was averaging 15 points a game but only playing 17 minutes a game at that time behind Barry Taylor
Matt Hildebrand
Charles Richardson (Shot 44% for a season and was a career 40% plus shooter from 3)
David Dees

There are others like Mike Minett, Jim Pearce and Greg McCauley but they usually get discounted by this board because they played in the division II era. Those guys would be great Big South players right now though for sure. Larry Jackson was pure as well but He and I shot a similar percentage from 3. Some would consider me a pure shooter though I was known as a slasher and a penetrator. I shot 44% from 3 the same year Chaz did but he shot a lot more. Willie Roach (Hildo era) was a pretty good shooter too.

What now sucka? Dees is in Scar's top 5. And I'd call him more qualified to answer this question than anybody given how long he's been close to the program.

LUCONN, Scar is a joke anybody that really knows him knows he is just politically correct since he works there. I should have put Jackson in there since he is my boy but he was to streaky in the tounaments. Boykin without a doubt before the knee injury was the best and he could take it off the dribble... Dees shouldn't count because he transferred out. Brokeback I agree the Wilkerson girls could shoot it!!!

LUconn wrote:haha, I knew as soon as I said girls dont count I knew I'd be having this argument with thesportscritic but I didn't see it coming from you brokeback. Are we talking about just a 3 point contest NBA allstart weekend style or something more along the lines of in game situations. like with defenders and stuff.

Well considering that our guys couldn't hit 3's with no one guarding them this year, maybe that is where we should start!! I would like the 3 best shooters from both squads and 25 shots each.
SCAR, you, a shooter?!?! I mean sure you SHOT the ball a lot!! Just bustin!! I was thinking LJ was a better shooter then M. White, but as time goes on those two get blurred in my mind. Now THAT was a great back court!
GUEST, be careful who you agree with on this board. Then all sorts of damnation and brimstone will fall on you!

Anonymous wrote:

LUconn wrote:haha, I knew as soon as I said girls dont count I knew I'd be having this argument with thesportscritic but I didn't see it coming from you brokeback. Are we talking about just a 3 point contest NBA allstart weekend style or something more along the lines of in game situations. like with defenders and stuff.

Well considering that our guys couldn't hit 3's with no one guarding them this year, maybe that is where we should start!! I would like the 3 best shooters from both squads and 25 shots each.
SCAR, you, a shooter?!?! I mean sure you SHOT the ball a lot!! Just bustin!! I was thinking LJ was a better shooter then M. White, but as time goes on those two get blurred in my mind. Now THAT was a great back court!
GUEST, be careful who you agree with on this board. Then all sorts of damnation and brimstone will fall on you!

Holy Cow, I double posted. What talent!! BTW LUCONN - I always support the oppressed!!!

OK,

everyone knows that I am not one of the top 5 pure shooters of all time. I did shoot a much higher percentage than folks that are perceived as good shooters but I digress...As far as "working for Liberty" or being politically correct, I don't really get it. I get roughly 5% of my total income from doing Liberty games on TV. Hardly paying mine or anyone else's bills but I thouroughly enjoy it but if it was taken away from me tomorrow I would live. As far as being politically correct, choosing Dees on a list like this is not politically correct because many don't like Dees anymore because he left school. 3rd point I want to make is I am not the end all, be all of opinions on Liberty basketball. I have just seen and know just about every player since the early 80's so my opinion is valued by many but I welcome opinions contrary to mine. Most don't know who Edwin Miller is but I put him on the list because he could fill it. He didn't have a great career here but he was still a great shooter. For that matter I should have put my boy Reebs on here. He was a tremendous 3 point shooter as well. Without laying out specific criteria and without seeing everyone this is a difficult thread because you may get 30 different answers. Top 5 players based on success and statistics is a little easier to quantify but even then you will get varing answers.

OK,

everyone knows that I am not one of the top 5 pure shooters of all time. I did shoot a much higher percentage than folks that are perceived as good shooters but I digress...As far as "working for Liberty" or being politically correct, I don't really get it. I get roughly 5% of my total income from doing Liberty games on TV. Hardly paying mine or anyone else's bills but I thouroughly enjoy it but if it was taken away from me tomorrow I would live. As far as being politically correct, choosing Dees on a list like this is not politically correct because many don't like Dees anymore because he left school. 3rd point I want to make is I am not the end all, be all of opinions on Liberty basketball. I have just seen and know just about every player since the early 80's so my opinion is valued by many but I welcome opinions contrary to mine. Most don't know who Edwin Miller is but I put him on the list because he could fill it. He didn't have a great career here but he was still a great shooter. For that matter I should have put my boy Reebs on here. He was a tremendous 3 point shooter as well. Without laying out specific criteria and without seeing everyone this is a difficult thread because you may get 30 different answers. Top 5 players based on success and statistics is a little easier to quantify but even then you will get varing answers.

Ownage.