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Why I Hate Our Schedule...

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 2:59 pm
by ToTheLeft
We dropped 17 spots in the RPI for beating Presby.

Thats how bad they are.

I just wish we didn't have to play trash all the time, we can beat better teams, so we should play better teams.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:01 pm
by SuperJon
Our RPI doesn't matter. We're not getting an at-large this year anyways.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:02 pm
by Fumblerooskies
Exactly...we're a young team and this will help them develop.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:05 pm
by Cider Jim
SuperJon wrote:We're not getting an at-large this year anyways.
Maybe we'll win the conference outright; and, unlike football, you get to go to the playoffs in basketball if you win the conference tournament.

(and I know you know that, Jon, so my comment isn't directed toward you).

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:12 pm
by SuperJon
The reason I say the RPI doesn't matter is the only thing it would be used for this year is our seeding if we make the tournament, which none of us should be worried about right now.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:16 pm
by LUconn
pretty sure I've been saying that for years and everybody called me crazy. How did you know our RPI dropped? Do you have a subscription to a site that updates it daily?

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:31 pm
by SuperJon
LUconn wrote:pretty sure I've been saying that for years and everybody called me crazy.
I agreed with you.

Here's why I actually like this schedule for this year:

We opened up with some decent teams that showed the guys where we needed to be.

We came back and played a cupcake to get some confidence and used that confidence to come back and beat ECU at ECU.

Then we got paid..

Then we came back with a three game home stand against a quasi-rival, a good school, and a team that people are learning to hate. We killed the quasi-rival, beat the NCAA school, and handled the school everyone's learning to hate pretty easily.

We're now 5-4 going into exams.

Last year, we'd already played three-sub Div I games.

This year, by playing Division I games that were winnable against schools that people had heard of, and winning those games, we've increased attendance in every game and people are starting to think we don't suck.

Now, we still have the sub-Div I games at home, but they're not while the students are here so it doesn't matter. We'll go on to beat them, and our record will be nice coming into the conference season. We open up at home the first week we get back with Charleston Southern and then the school in our conference that people hate the most: Coastal.

If we were to go 4-4 over break which, at the very least, is expected we would come into Chuck South at 9-8. We haven't opened the spring semester up at home being over .500 since 2001.

Then we go into conference season with momentum and confidence and hopefully more fans at the games. If we get Tyler or Anderson healthy, who knows what happens.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:31 pm
by jcmanson
LUconn wrote:pretty sure I've been saying that for years and everybody called me crazy. How did you know our RPI dropped? Do you have a subscription to a site that updates it daily?
I wouldn't have. Until we are at Winthrop's level, out of conference games don't mean anything. It's all about getting our team ready for conference play. That's all.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 4:09 pm
by ToTheLeft
LUconn wrote:pretty sure I've been saying that for years and everybody called me crazy. How did you know our RPI dropped? Do you have a subscription to a site that updates it daily?
CBS Sportsline RPI, not the real one. I should have put that. It updates fairly regularly.

And it does matter, if only in the same way that any statistic matters. It is a way you can show how your team is doing.

I dunno, it's just frustrating.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 4:16 pm
by LUconn
but it's not accurate as to where your teams stands for another 2 months or so. So don't even look at it until then.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 4:18 pm
by ToTheLeft
I guess the positive in it is that it shows how horrible the Hose are.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 4:22 pm
by Cider Jim
But the Hose did beat Radford, right?

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:02 pm
by SuperJon
ToTheLeft wrote: And it does matter, if only in the same way that any statistic matters. It is a way you can show how your team is doing.
You weren't here last year. The thing that shows us how our team is doing is their body language on the court, their results on the floor, and things like that. A mathematical equation does not show us how our team is doing.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:04 pm
by ToTheLeft
SuperJon wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote: And it does matter, if only in the same way that any statistic matters. It is a way you can show how your team is doing.
You weren't here last year. The thing that shows us how our team is doing is their body language on the court, their results on the floor, and things like that. A mathematical equation does not show us how our team is doing.
Well, I have nothing to compare against, as you said, and being as obsessed with stats as I am, I like looking at the RPI.

It's not a huge deal in the long run, but for now its cool to keep tabs on things.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:10 pm
by SuperJon
Compare against last year's team if you want to compare stats. See how we're doing that way. Our RPI might not be great, but all of us can see the improvement.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:22 pm
by LUconn
I don't think you want to do that. We were smoking fools at this time last year. It wasn't until the end of December when we hit the wall. But it's just a completely different team. Comparing is pointless, unless you just want to keep him busy.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:29 pm
by SuperJon
He said he wanted to look at stats. Look at our stats vs who we played last year vs stats who we played this year. At this time last year we were playing teams like LC.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:32 pm
by kentuckywildcats
SuperJon wrote:He said he wanted to look at stats. Look at our stats vs who we played last year vs stats who we played this year. At this time last year we were playing teams like LC.
actually, that would have been two years ago.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 6:34 pm
by SuperJon
But last year we were playing teams like LC.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 7:19 pm
by kentuckywildcats
SuperJon wrote:But last year we were playing teams like LC.
LC has been one of the worst teams in all of the NCAA the past two years and this year, i doubt the teams LU played were that bad.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 7:20 pm
by SuperJon
NAIA Divi 2.

NCCCA.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 7:35 pm
by kentuckywildcats
naia D2 has some solid teams out there, some could compete at the D2 level or be major players in the D3 ncaa tournament. although southern virginia is kinda crappy, but not nearly as crappy as LC...

but what is nccca? i get some cheerleading website when i google that.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 7:45 pm
by ToTheLeft
National Christian College Athletic Association.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 7:45 pm
by SuperJon
I put one too many C's.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 7:46 pm
by whmatthews
Much improvement over the last two years. Three seasons ago, we weren't bad in conference play, a 2 seed in the conference tournament, and should have gone on to meet Winthrop in the final game:

04-05 Season (The season after we went to the tournament)
OOC games:

Home:
New Hampshire: Lost by one on a buzzer-beater if I remember correctly.
Shenandoah: Won in overtime... should have killed them, like any team below us.
Old Dominion: Got killed.
UNC Greensboro: They pulled away at the end.

Away:
Arkansas State - Lost
Western Carolina - Lost
(10) NC State - Lost
Miami (OH) - Lost
(23) Maryland - Lost
Marist - Won
Seton Hall - Lost

Conference Games:
@ High Point - Lost
@ Winthrop - Lost in OT
vs Birm-So. - W
@ Coastal - W
@ Charl-So. - W
vs UNCA - W
vs VMI - W
@ Radford - L
vs High Point - W (I think this win tied us for first in the league at the time)
@ Birm-So - W
vs Winthrop - L
vs Charl-So. - W
vs Coastal - W
@ VMI - L
vs Radford - W
vs UNCA - W

Tournament
vs Charl-So L

Then it went down hill - After that season we lost DAVID DEES

05-06 seasons:
OOC games:

Home:
Cinci Christian - W
Lynchburg College - W
Buffalo - L
Longwood - W
Puerto Rico Mayaguez - W

Some great quality wins right there...

Away:
UVA - L
Kentucky - L
Longwood - L
Lipscomb - L
Miss. State - L
Mount St. Mary's - L
McNeese State - L

Conference:
Only wins:
vs High Point
vs VMI
vs Winthrop - miracle game, i'll never forget Larry Blair's performance in that one.

Last year:
OOC games:

Home:
Cedarville: W
Cinci Christian: W
Houghton: W
Southern Va: W
East Carolina: W
St. Francis (PA): W
Longwood: W

Away:
Oklahoma: L
St. Francis (PA): L
Buffalo: L
BYU: L
Seton Hall: L
Oral Roberts: L
(3)Florida: L

Had a good amount of conference wins, but lost to VMI in first round of tournament.


All that just so say that it doesn't mean much except a lot of our wins the past two years have come against teams we should always win against. The only game I've seen this team play was at East Carolina, and they looked a lot better than the past two years.