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Did you think the officiating for the CCU game was bad?

Yes, more in LU's favor
2
11%
Yes, more in CCU's favor
10
53%
No
7
37%
#62021
I just wanted to do a quick poll to see who thought the officiating was bad against CCU at home. Yes I have my reasons.

I'm not offering a both b/c I wanted to see what yall thought it went towards the most



EDIT: IF YOU COULD PLEASE PUT WHICH WAY YOU VOTED AS THE FIRST LINE THEN AFTER THAT ANY COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE
Last edited by Hold My Own on February 20th, 2007, 4:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By Sly Fox
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#62023
I think you need to add another option: "It was bad both ways"
By LUconn
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#62025
I voted for the homer option but I'll add comment that it's part of the game, and it's something you need to overcome when it happens to you. It happens to every team at one point.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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#62052
Sadly, I didnt get to Vote... I watched the Film multiple times and had to help with writing down all of the called the refs made and missed that night... Coach D Sent in a appeal to the officiating people (i forgot the real name for it) and they counted out 15 MISSED CALLS... 12 of which would have HELPED US... thats just missed calls, not all of the BAD calls they made during the game. Im sorry, but in a 1 point game 12 calls couls have helped us out quite a bit. I hope they lose their jobs, as well as Kevin Keys (not involved with the bad officiating, but cant do his job either)
By Hold My Own
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#62057
Sly, theres a reason for that though, b/c I want to see who's favor it was mostly for.


I'm going to post something tomorrow after we get a few more votes, I just want to see where everyone stands for right now
By mrich
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#62059
Isn't this poll a little late, we have played two games since.
By Hold My Own
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#62060
Theres a reason...which way did you vote Mrich?
By mrich
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#62061
Frankly, I can't remember. I watched the game on the net, and I can't remember officiating playing a huge role. All I remember is that we had no idea what was going on when it mattered most.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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#62063
Then You Obviously Didnt watch the game...
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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#62064
It was so terrible you have to remember
By Libertine
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#62065
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:I hope they lose their jobs, as well as Kevin Keys (not involved with the bad officiating, but cant do his job either)
I take it you've never had a real job or you wouldn't be so itchy for someone else to lose theirs. Regardless of how ineffective you think somebody may be at what they do, the above is a pretty brazen statement to make.

What's your deal with Kevin Keys anyway? Isn't he the guy in charge of gameday promotions? With all of the "he needs to be fired" talk that's been swirling around this forum the last few months, you single out the guy driving the Coupon Blimp? What's up?
By mrich
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#62066
No, I watched it. I think this thread show the state of our basketball program. We are thinking back three games and whining about officiating. Frankly, RD should worry about spending his time teaching his team how to finish a game. If we hold the ball, and put a few guys back on defense, we don't have this thread. But now we spend our time wishing, wondering, and whining.
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By LUconn
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:Sadly, I didnt get to Vote... I watched the Film multiple times and had to help with writing down all of the called the refs made and missed that night... Coach D Sent in a appeal to the officiating people (i forgot the real name for it) and they counted out 15 MISSED CALLS... 12 of which would have HELPED US... thats just missed calls, not all of the BAD calls they made during the game. Im sorry, but in a 1 point game 12 calls couls have helped us out quite a bit. I hope they lose their jobs, as well as Kevin Keys (not involved with the bad officiating, but cant do his job either)

This is interesting. I didn't know coaches did this. Does it help anything? It's not like we can call a redo. If anything I think it would make the refs mad and have a grudge with us, but I don't even think it would accomplish that. Also, quit picking on Kevin Keys. All he can do is count the turnstyles. And gaurd the other enterances.
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By bigsmooth
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#62068
it was bad both ways IMO. but if TBGBG saw the tape then that says it all!
By Libertine
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#62071
If officiating is particularly bad, teams usually send in a tape to the Coordinator of Officials for the game. The head guy obviously wants his guys to get better and they watch game tape just like teams do for the exact same reason. It depends on the coach on what constitutes grounds to send a tape in but, really, you don't want to do it all that often unless there's an ongoing pattern or the calls are really bad. Generally, the best that the league can do is say "sorry" and "we'll get it right next time", which is about as best as you can expect after the fact.
By Hold My Own
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#62076
I think it does a lot of good to find out where they missed the call...it lets them know they will be held accountable when they step inside the vines...if we didnt have FTN i'm not so sure even the evaluator would point out the mistakes


TBGBG hinted towards the reason I started this thread...I have something that is of interest from that game. There were a total of 15 missed calls, 12 of them went against LU....that was on our home floor. So yeah, when people get on here and complain saying man, the officials sucked...well, at least this time we have something other than video to base that off of. here it is in case you wanted to see it.

1750 MS foul called against CC incorrect defender hits ball only
1629 MS OR JH kicked ball call against Liberty player hits ball with hand only
1441 Liberty travel called-should be rebound foul against CC contact causes Liberty player to go to floor
1415 MS should be Liberty ball out of bounds-incorrect call
106 MS bad call no call should CC foul on Liberty shooter

1940 JH no call should be Liberty offensive foul
1822 NQ possible shooting foul against CC
1731 JH Bad call should be shooting foul against CC
1616 JH rebound foul called against Liberty should be no call
1446 NQ/JH should be CC foul against Liberty shooter
1412 Technical deserved
329 MS foul called against Liberty looks like solid block on play on ball
307 MS Liberty given ball out of bounds incorrect
223 NQ no call should be Liberty blocking foul on CC shot
154 MS marginal Liberty foul


Just thought it was interesting...no worries I'm not disclosing anything top secret other than the fact we get hosed, so nobodies heads will roll for this being posted
By Hold My Own
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#62077
Really all I wanted to see was how many hater's would get on here and say that it was either even or in LU's favor, but we all know thats what would have been said it was the night after the game...but like Rish pointed out it was a while ago and really forgotten
By LUconn
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#62097
Were you sitting next to me during the game? Right by the A/V command center?
By Hold My Own
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#62105
I sit there often so prob....if so I'm ticked you didnt talk to me...you would have kept me entertained with your comments (if you make similar ones as you do on here)
By LUconn
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#62111
No, I'm mostly too angry during games. Plus I had my kid with me so I can't really yell much. But I think that probably was you. Were you with a girl, who left eventually? And hey, that was probably smoothie with you. Man, I was to your right a few rows down
By Hold My Own
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#62113
Yeah that was Smooth...SAY HI NEXT TIME! She left to go talk to a friend and I left to go yell...lol
By SuperJon
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#62127
Are we really whining about a game two weeks ago that had we actually played defense we would've won? Just making sure we're talking about the same game.
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By jcmanson
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#62132
SuperJon wrote:Are we really whining about a game two weeks ago that had we actually played defense we would've won? Just making sure we're talking about the same game.
Yep, that's the one.
By Hold My Own
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#62133
It's more or less proof to everything some have been saying all along and others say oh shut up, if you would have played D you would have one...well maybe if 6 of those calls would have gone our way then we'd have a 12 point lead and that midget could have run the court all he wanted it would only have had us win by 10


Everything factors into it
By SuperJon
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#62135
If I was skinny I would have a date.

If's don't matter. Get over it, move on. Everyone has bad officiating. Us whining about it everytime it happens certainly doesn't help.
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