[thepostman]

and he didn't even try...it was terrible transition defense, there is just no way around it...I guess its a lesson learned for BJ....

[paradox]

At least one gaurd should have been well beyond the three point line as a saftey valve. It's a shame that LU lost that opportunity. With a guard near half court, LU is in position to at the very least force them into an off-balance shot .

This play seems to harken back to a somewhat famous game back in the early 80's when St. Joe's U. upset #1 DePaul in the first round of the NCAA's. I think it was a field of 48 back then. Neverthelss, St. Joe's won the game on an uncontested lay-up after a missed one-in-one.

...not a good feeling

[Fumblerooskies]

This type of play happens quite a bit in big games...
...UCLA did it the the year they won
...Danny Ainge did it one year for BYU.

[jcmanson]

The UNC game was just like the ending of our game. They even had a second longer. UNC's man just got inside the three point with three guys in his face. Tech didn't have anyone on the line for the rebound.

[Fumblerooskies]

I have a question, since I was not at the Coastal game...
...did Coach Dunton call a TO before the free throw to make sure the defense was set, in case of a miss?

[SuperJon]

No.

[bigsmooth]

game over. let's not rehash it anymore please!!!!!!

[Fumblerooskies]

No.

Then...
http://www.destgulch.com/movies/luke/luke18.wav

What we've got here is...failure to communicate.

[Fumblerooskies]

I just took another look at the pix...
...anyone else think that the guy looks like HMO's dad?

[bigsmooth]

that is funny!

[TIMSCAR20]

Wow, he really does...Great movie line to Fumble...I may have to use that one if we get a home game in the bs tournament!

[mrich]

We should of just pulled a "Tyler Baker" on him.

[Purple Haize]

This question is for SCAR or anyone else who ever coached or played basketball in high school or college: on Smith's free throw attempt last night, wouldn't it have made more sense to pull back 2 or 3 of our players off the block and already have them set up for their defensive position, in case of a missed shot?

I know this is "Monday morning quarterbacking," but I know I have seen other coaches employ that strategy in similar situations. What are the pros and cons of setting up your defense on a play like that vs. having 5 guys crash the boards?

Thanks in advance for your input, coaches.

The strategy I am more accustomed with is keeping two people on the line, this allows them to harrass the rebounder or inbounder while the other can dog the outlet or intercept a pass. These two would "herd" the ball handler to the sideline while the shooter would have dropped back and tried to force a trap or keep "herding" the ball handler down the sideline (Note: Keep the player ON THE SIDELINE) One of the two remaining players would be "safety" and the other would be at mid court to provide additional support.
You wouldn't need to call a time out. You can either expain it to the two players who are going to be back, or more likely, talk to all four during the first FT attempt and have them hit the spots prior to the second.
Hope that helps

[paradox]

yea, definetly a breakdown of some kind.

[flameshaw]

This question is for SCAR or anyone else who ever coached or played basketball in high school or college: on Smith's free throw attempt last night, wouldn't it have made more sense to pull back 2 or 3 of our players off the block and already have them set up for their defensive position, in case of a missed shot?

I know this is "Monday morning quarterbacking," but I know I have seen other coaches employ that strategy in similar situations. What are the pros and cons of setting up your defense on a play like that vs. having 5 guys crash the boards?

Thanks in advance for your input, coaches.

The strategy I am more accustomed with is keeping two people on the line, this allows them to harrass the rebounder or inbounder while the other can dog the outlet or intercept a pass. These two would "herd" the ball handler to the sideline while the shooter would have dropped back and tried to force a trap or keep "herding" the ball handler down the sideline (Note: Keep the player ON THE SIDELINE) One of the two remaining players would be "safety" and the other would be at mid court to provide additional support.
You wouldn't need to call a time out. You can either expain it to the two players who are going to be back, or more likely, talk to all four during the first FT attempt and have them hit the spots prior to the second.
Hope that helps

Looks like the VT coaches had it set up correctly:

Carolina forward Tyler Hansbrough, who led the Heels with 22 points and eight rebounds, made one of two free throws with 13.9 seconds left to cut Tech's lead to 81-80.

Hokies guard Markus Sailes was fouled at the other end, and he missed both free throws to set up Lawson's final shot attempt.

Tech doubled Lawson and closed every passing lane.

"We were supposed to run a play, but they came and doubled, so that messed everything up," Lawson said. "I couldn't find anybody open, so I tried to get a shot off, but they blocked it in the lane."

[TIMSCAR20]

Looking at the Tech game it appeared that the double team was inadvertent. I think they just had 2 guys run at the guy with the ball because they didn't have matchups. I would have to see it again but that is what I thought watching it live when I was on the treadmill. They left guys open on the perimeter but not underneath. Bottom line is no matter what strategy you use, communication is important. You have to know your matchups prior to the shot being taken.

[Fumblerooskies]

I would have to see it again but that is what I thought watching it live when I was on the treadmill.

Before someone beats me to the punch...
...I guess you will be taking your treadmill in for a new pair of these...

[TIMSCAR20]

Good stuff....I actually go to a club so when I break one, I just move to the next one...BTW I am getting into good playing shape. The next alumni game I will be in great shape! Yet another thing to look forward to in the off season for us flamefans

[Cider Jim]

Scar, don't let Fumblerooskies give you a hard time: I think the two of you go to the same barber, if you know what I mean.

[Chris Lang]

Didn't feel like starting a whole new thread, so I thought I'd tack it on to this:

Radford beating VMI Wednesday was pretty big for LU. The only way the Flames lose a home game now is if they lose their final two games and VMI wins at High Point on the last day of the season. If Liberty beats VMI next week, it wraps fourth up.

[LU'sbestmanager]

We should of just pulled a "Tyler Baker" on him.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

that was a good one... it would have worked too. lol

[TIMSCAR20]

Scar, don't let Fumblerooskies give you a hard time: I think the two of you go to the same barber, if you know what I mean.

Does that mean I SHAVE his head bald too I need to start charging 20 bucks a pop then.

[PAmedic]

Didn't feel like starting a whole new thread, so I thought I'd tack it on to this:

Radford beating VMI Wednesday was pretty big for LU. The only way the Flames lose a home game now is if they lose their final two games and VMI wins at High Point on the last day of the season. If Liberty beats VMI next week, it wraps fourth up.

THANKS CHRIS!

any good news is welcome at this point.

hopefully the guys and Coach put this one behind them and get back into form.

play the way they did against WU and we're all back on the bandwagon. Pathetic, but true

[Fumblerooskies]

Scar, don't let Fumblerooskies give you a hard time: I think the two of you go to the same barber, if you know what I mean.

Does that mean I SHAVE his head bald too I need to start charging 20 bucks a pop then.

Already there...
...almost.

[BJWilliams]

Wow, he really does...Great movie line to Fumble...I may have to use that one if we get a home game in the bs tournament!

You could use that one to describe the Big South Conference and their scheduling tendencies...