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Tnobes wrote: ↑September 26th, 2020, 11:59 pm Did he ever put out an updated statement after we found out the truth of the cases that George Floyd was high on fentanyl and overdosed and breonna Taylor was a drug dealer whose boyfriend shot at the police after they knocked and announced who they were? Christians look like fools when they knee jerk react like secular idiots. Those cases had absolutely zero to do with "race" and everything to do with people who made terrible decisions in lifeYou cannot quantifiably say they had NOTHING to do with race, when you have no idea how much race (or other factors out of their hands, for that matter) affected their lot in life to cause addiction (Floyd) or illegal activity (Taylor). The point of our society’s current moment is to give grace where such things need to be acknowledged and better understood.
LUOrange wrote: ↑September 28th, 2020, 1:11 pm First of all, Breonna Taylor was knee deep in the drug trade and hadn't been an EMT since 2017. I'll give most people the benefit of the doubt on George Floyd due to the optics, but Excited Delirium had been setting in on that poor guy before the Officers made contact with him and was exasperated by the fentanyl that was on his tongue that he swallowed when they did make contact. Liberals, BLM, and antifa will not like the results of those Officers trials either. Although, they'll relish the opportunity to riot and loot again. You can add George Floyd and Breonna Taylor to the long lists of criminal deaths that they blew out of proportion and caused over reactions for the sake of a narrative. That doesn't mean their deaths weren't tragic, but actions have risks and consequences that they knew or ignored.WOW.....where in the world did you see this woman was deep into the Drug trade? if you think that these peoples deaths are blown out of proportion, then you are part of the problem.
But in Ritchie/MBB's statement, I don't fault them for putting that statement out (although I wish they would've left Breonna Taylor's name out of it). Pretty much everyone was condemning the Minneapolis cops, and we also had 3 athletes transferring. So who knows what he and the team were going through. It would've been nice for them to have been more patient. It also would've been nice to have been able to have launched the Created Equally campaign sooner. But neither was probably practical back then. It is what it was. Again, I don't blame McKay and MBB. Nor do I think they need to retract or apologize. Let's just move on, and so far, I really like the Created Equally campaign.
LUOrange wrote: ↑September 30th, 2020, 11:23 am I'm not going to debate you two liberals over the merits of the Taylor case. The evidence is all over the internet, to include reports and transcribed jail phone calls, that document her involvement and a good chunk of what happened the night one of her boyfriends caused her to get killed. Y'all know how to use the internet, you can find it. Of course, this is on top of the glaring fact that the narcotics search warrant was for her, her apartment, and her car. I'd also recommend that you research beyond CNN, MSNBC, facebook and Twitter.I didn't want to respond because I don't see you changing your mind on this, but I can't just leave it here unchallenged when it's so off base.
stokesjokes wrote: ↑October 1st, 2020, 3:57 pm I just don't understand where this info is coming from, I can't find it.Google search is your friend. The no knock warrant was for her not her boyfriend. . If you don’t understand what it takes for a Judge to issue a no knock warrant - go watch The Wire from 2003 on HBO.
I can't find any source to say that she had 2 (current) boyfriends, just an ex and a current.
I can't find anything to say that her apartment was a location for "business." There's a report that a single package was delivered there in his name, but there's no indication that it had anything to do with drugs.
I can't find any record of a conversation about a "ledger," just that she was holding his money while he was in jail (which they didn't find and he reversed his story).
I can't find anything that can't also be explained by the fact that they dated for a few years (listing addresses, getting mail, borrowing cars).
I know you're not interested in keeping this going, but it just seems like you're filling in the story with speculation instead of what we actually know. And the continued insistence on making snide remarks about her character (boyfriend of the night) is unbecoming.
tyndal23 wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2020, 11:50 pmI say I can’t find these things because I googled and none of the articles give any of these details. Once again, saying “she must have done enough to warrant a no-knock warrant, so she must have been in the drug game” is speculation, not facts.stokesjokes wrote: ↑October 1st, 2020, 3:57 pm I just don't understand where this info is coming from, I can't find it.Google search is your friend. The no knock warrant was for her not her boyfriend. . If you don’t understand what it takes for a Judge to issue a no knock warrant - go watch The Wire from 2003 on HBO.
I can't find any source to say that she had 2 (current) boyfriends, just an ex and a current.
I can't find anything to say that her apartment was a location for "business." There's a report that a single package was delivered there in his name, but there's no indication that it had anything to do with drugs.
I can't find any record of a conversation about a "ledger," just that she was holding his money while he was in jail (which they didn't find and he reversed his story).
I can't find anything that can't also be explained by the fact that they dated for a few years (listing addresses, getting mail, borrowing cars).
I know you're not interested in keeping this going, but it just seems like you're filling in the story with speculation instead of what we actually know. And the continued insistence on making snide remarks about her character (boyfriend of the night) is unbecoming.
Tony Gooden, a Louisville-based U.S. postal inspector, concluded in January that Taylor’s home was not receiving any “packages of interest,” including potentially illicit drugs, the inspector told WDRB News.https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatod ... 3235029001