A Sea Of Red

Flames can clinch a share of the regular season title with a win tonight

https://www.aseaofred.com/liberty-kenne ... e-preview/

Up only 35-29 at the half. Homesley with 18, but Georgie got 2 fouls early and only played 8 minutes.

Liberty clinches at least a share of the ASUN regular season title with win

https://www.aseaofred.com/liberty-clinc ... ournament/

One of TV announcers said we "took the crowd out of the game". Anyone know how big crowd was ?

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:56 pm One of TV announcers said we "took the crowd out of the game". Anyone know how big crowd was ?

About 52 and 12 of the were LU fans. There arena is 4600 and mostly empty. They do have a top 50 recruiting class coming in and have had season ending injuries to deal with this year.
https://ksuowls.com/sports/2014/12/17/121714a.aspx

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:56 pm One of TV announcers said we "took the crowd out of the game". Anyone know how big crowd was ?

It was a softball size crowd.

Hard to believe they have a Top 50 recruiting class.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 9:56 pm One of TV announcers said we "took the crowd out of the game". Anyone know how big crowd was ?

Box score says 933.

https://www.liberty.edu/wwwadmin/global ... MB2030.pdf

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:54 pm Hard to believe they have a Top 50 recruiting class.

It is but it is true

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Baske ... mRankings/

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 27th, 2020, 10:54 pm Hard to believe they have a Top 50 recruiting class.

The Atlanta area is loaded with HS talent. Their new coach focused locally and signed a 4 star and a 3 star recruit who are HS teammates from Sharpsburg, which is an hour away from Kennesaw. He also signed another 3 star from Newnan, which is just 15 minutes from Sharpsburg. He was able to sell 3 very good players who have probably known each other since they were kids to come and play together an hour away from home. Good job by him.

KSU campus isn't a good recruiting tool. One of worst I have been on.

Their parking makes LU's good plentiful.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 8:14 am KSU campus isn't a good recruiting tool. One of worst I have been on.

Their parking makes LU's good plentiful.

I explained how coach Abdur-Raheem pulled off this recruiting class, but of course you are right. They should have never considered going to school and playing basketball at a place where parking for softball is so inconvenient.
No, their campus is not as nice as Liberty's. Not many are. Things like that are only one factor in a recruit's decision and not the most important by a long shot.

Recruiting class rankings don't mean a lot once you get out of the top 20 or so, because not all players have been rated by every service. Using Liberty's 2020 class as an example, we have 2 3-star players, but don't show up in the 247 rankings because only one of them, Isiah Warfield, was rated by 247, while Drake Dobbs is rated 3-star by Rivals. If you go to Verbal Commits, which is pretty much the go-to site when you want to take a quick look at recruiting, all of KSU's signees are listed as 2-star because VC does not include 247 in their composite rating and, for whatever reason, none of KSU's signees have been rated by ESPN, Rivals or Scout.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/kennesaw-state

Another interesting note is that with their 5 November signees, KSU is currently -2 in spots available for 2020, meaning they are 2 over the scholarship limit, yet it looks like they are still actively recruiting for that class. What this means is that a very minimum of 2 players from this year's team will be leaving, which is not likely to hurt them at all considering their talent on hand.

oldflame wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 8:54 am

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 8:14 am KSU campus isn't a good recruiting tool. One of worst I have been on.

Their parking makes LU's good plentiful.

I explained how coach Abdur-Raheem pulled off this recruiting class, but of course you are right. They should have never considered going to school and playing basketball at a place where parking for softball is so inconvenient.
No, their campus is not as nice as Liberty's. Not many are. Things like that are only one factor in a recruit's decision and not the most important by a long shot.

When I drove onto KSU campus the first time, I asked myself, why would any recruit come here, if they have other offers ?

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 9:54 am

oldflame wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 8:54 am

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 8:14 am KSU campus isn't a good recruiting tool. One of worst I have been on.

Their parking makes LU's good plentiful.

I explained how coach Abdur-Raheem pulled off this recruiting class, but of course you are right. They should have never considered going to school and playing basketball at a place where parking for softball is so inconvenient.
No, their campus is not as nice as Liberty's. Not many are. Things like that are only one factor in a recruit's decision and not the most important by a long shot.

When I drove onto KSU campus the first time, I asked myself, why would any recruit come here, if they have other offers ?

#Oblivious

An example of how little a campus means. High Point's campus is one of the nicest in the country, and they have a palace of a new arena under construction and scheduled to be completed by next season. In spite of that, and also having a coach who has had years and years of success at the very highest levels of college basketball, including a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, they can't get any high level recruits to come there. There may be more than one factor, but it's pretty clear that the primary one is that Tubby Smith (whether it is deserved or not) is viewed as an old coach that the game has passed bye.

I will be the first to admit recruiting is a funny business. Heck even some football recruits sign with UVA. That proves most anything is possible if stars and moon are aligned and wind is blowing in right direction.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 10:42 am I will be the first to admit recruiting is a funny business. Heck even some football recruits sign with UVA. That proves most anything is possible if stars and moon are aligned and wind is blowing in right direction.

If you cannot see the multiple reasons that some recruits choose a place like UVA, you are blinded by your baseless hate. To name a few:

Beautiful campus
World class academics
Some of the best coaches in the country

I am not especially a fan of UVA, although I pull for their basketball team because of Bennett, and other teams on occasion, depending on the opponent.

My dislike of UVA football (and basketball) is not baseless.

For the record, I respect their baseball and softball.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 11:22 am My dislike of UVA football (and basketball) is not baseless.

For the record, I respect their baseball and softball.

Any basis at all it has in your mind has to do with things that happened decades ago when nobody associated with the programs now was around. I call that baseless. Bennett and Mendenhall run 2 of the most spotless programs in college athletics.

oldflame wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 10:14 am High Point...can't get any high level recruits to come there.

High Point likes to call itself "the Harvard of the South." Their strong academics might actually HURT their basketball recruiting process. UVa used to have a similar problem, until they found the right coaches to recruit the right student-athletes.

An unnamed high school coach told me that back in the day, that Al Groh got the administration to lower requirements for athletes, at Mr. Jefferson's University.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 12:20 pm An unnamed high school coach told me that back in the day, that Al Groh got the administration to lower requirements for athletes, at Mr. Jefferson's University.

Virtually every university in the country which has high academic standards and also plays sports at a high level makes some entrance exceptions for athletes. Once they are in, the academic requirements to remain eligible are set by the NCAA. Some don't need to make entrance exceptions because their standards aren't that high to begin with. In any event, those standards are not different from sport to sport at a given school.

On the "undercard" of the annual UVA-VT football game, I'd love to see a quizbowl match between the 2 football team. I think we all know who would win THAT one.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2020, 12:20 pm An unnamed high school coach told me that back in the day, that Al Groh got the administration to lower requirements for athletes, at Mr. Jefferson's University.

Bronco had to do the same. There is a short list of people that can get into UVa or Stanford and play football well.

Anyone who goes up there to play football isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.