A Sea Of Red

LU was 36 in the AP poll this week in votes received.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiV2 ... id=US%3Aen

EDIT: Sorry, Flameshighinthetide had already posted this info earler in the day on the old game thread and I didn't see it.

Maybe we call this thread bracket watching too. Lunardi moved us up to an 11 seed. This means we're on the edge of an at large spot right now. Not much room for error, but an at large is remotely possible.

http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketology?iter ... &year=2020

Mid Major Poll has Gonzaga #1 and Liberty #2

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php

Tough for Liberty to climb in the rankings with teams like Kentucky Christian and Trinity Baptist on the schedule.

I checked out Trinity Baptist...
Not only are they win-less, they actually lost in OT to a Community College.
They share a campus with a Kindergarten and Elementary school. See campus map here... http://www.tbc.edu/map

I honestly believe it would be better to play no one than to play this level of competition.

Geraldos Mustache wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2019, 4:19 pm Tough for Liberty to climb in the rankings with teams like Kentucky Christian and Trinity Baptist on the schedule.

I checked out Trinity Baptist...
Not only are they win-less, they actually lost in OT to a Community College.
They share a campus with a Kindergarten and Elementary school. See campus map here... http://www.tbc.edu/map

I honestly believe it would be better to play no one than to play this level of competition.

I don't like it either, but we just have to build on what we have. I'm sure McKay did his best to get some decent schools on the schedule. Oldflame did make a good point about teams not wanting to lose to us, although I find it hard to believe that it was hard to at least find more games against at least the top 125 teams. Nonetheless i'm not there when the schedule is being arranged so who knows. Hopefully our schedules will be better in 2020 and onward.

Geraldos Mustache wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2019, 4:19 pm Tough for Liberty to climb in the rankings with teams like Kentucky Christian and Trinity Baptist on the schedule.

I checked out Trinity Baptist...
Not only are they win-less, they actually lost in OT to a Community College.
They share a campus with a Kindergarten and Elementary school. See campus map here... http://www.tbc.edu/map

I honestly believe it would be better to play no one than to play this level of competition.

These games do NOT affect our rankings............... AT ALL. They are treated as if they do not exist by all the rating services. It would be much worse from that standpoint to schedule more bottom feeder D1 teams like Maryland-Eastern Shore and SC State. They actually count. As far as playing more high major opponents is concerned, after a while I/we get tired of saying it. We can't force those teams to play us, and right now we are not an attractive matchup for them. Too much to lose and too little to gain.

For the record, we are currently ranked second in the CI mid-major poll and actually received a first place vote, which means somebody thought we were better than Gonzaga.

I think the packline defense has a lot to do with the difficulty in getting good games. I would relate it to no one wanting to play a good triple option team. It gets your team all out of sorts.

oldflame wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2019, 5:40 pm

Geraldos Mustache wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2019, 4:19 pm Tough for Liberty to climb in the rankings with teams like Kentucky Christian and Trinity Baptist on the schedule.

I checked out Trinity Baptist...
Not only are they win-less, they actually lost in OT to a Community College.
They share a campus with a Kindergarten and Elementary school. See campus map here... http://www.tbc.edu/map

I honestly believe it would be better to play no one than to play this level of competition.

These games do NOT affect our rankings............... AT ALL. They are treated as if they do not exist by all the rating services. It would be much worse from that standpoint to schedule more bottom feeder D1 teams like Maryland-Eastern Shore and SC State. They actually count. As far as playing more high major opponents is concerned, after a while I/we get tired of saying it. We can't force those teams to play us, and right now we are not an attractive matchup for them. Too much to lose and too little to gain.

For the record, we are currently ranked second in the CI mid-major poll and actually received a first place vote, which means somebody thought we were better than Gonzaga.

Old Flame - your comments are duly noted. I understand that these games "don't count" against our rankings. They "do count" toward our record. They are not exhibition games. We are 10-0 and there are articles patting Liberty on the back for achieving a 10-0 record for the first time in school history etc.

But who did we play?

Mark my words - we are going to have a very attractive record approaching the Tournament. I believe we will win our Conference, win our Conference Tournament and head back to the NCAA. How will they seed us? I am concerned these games will negatively impact us.

This is a quality team. Probably better than last year. I don't want anything to take away from the quality product LU is building.

AP poll had us 31st for their latest poll. It is possible depending on what happens this week to the teams in front of us that when we beat Vandy that we make the jump to 25th in the nation!

Liberty inches closer to the top 25

https://www.aseaofred.com/liberty-mens- ... he-top-25/

FlamesHighontheTide wrote: ↑December 9th, 2019, 2:19 pm AP poll had us 31st for their latest poll. It is possible depending on what happens this week to the teams in front of us that when we beat Vandy that we make the jump to 25th in the nation!

There are currently only two people voting for LU (Mark Berman and Sam Blum), so you're going to need to get a lot more people to add LU to their ballots before getting into the top 25.

We are far from a top 25 team. We are better than last year, but I am not drinking the Kool Aid. If we beat Vandy and LSU than maybe we should get a few votes. Right now, our undefeated record is artificially propping us up. IMHO.

Yeah, it does stink that we haven't played some better teams, but from what I saw last night GCU has a really good chance of winning their conference as does Radford in the Big South. Yet, I am super grateful we have beaten everyone and taken care of business in each of those games unlike Puke and Craptucky.

flameshaw wrote: ↑December 9th, 2019, 3:49 pm We are far from a top 25 team. We are better than last year, but I am not drinking the Kool Aid. If we beat Vandy and LSU than maybe we should get a few votes. Right now, our undefeated record is artificially propping us up. IMHO.

You couldn't be more right. Our team is great but closer to 50 than 25. And one loss, and we won't get a single top 25 vote.

I’d agree with top 50 more than top 25. It’s nice to get the recognition but unfortunately we don’t have tons of opportunity to show how good we are this year to earn a higher ranking.

Liberty is 12-0, should the Flames be ranked?

https://www.aseaofred.com/liberty-is-12 ... be-ranked/

No we shouldn't be ranked in basketball, mostly because of our poor schedule. But then again, if one believes App State is the 22nd best football team in the country, than yeah, we should be ranked in the top 5. Polls are pretty much useless.

You have a point there flaneshaw but it will be nice to see that number and Liberty's name beside it. We need all the national attention that we're blessed with.

If we can get ranked, it will be good PR for University.

A bowl game and ranked basketball team this week will bring us PR nationwide.

If we're undefeated through LSU, I think we get in the top 25. Not before then though.

The AP (Writer's) Poll are generous. The USA Today Coaches Poll not so much.

gerb wrote: ↑December 13th, 2019, 1:36 pm

This is absolutely wonderful. It deserves to be framed.

I know im in the minority on this but i dont mind flying under the radar. Atleast until lsu. I certainly dont think we will be this week but if we win both games this weekend we certainly could heading to lsu and then if we win all 3 i certainly think we will be ranked after lsu.

5 reasons Liberty should be in the top 25 when the poll comes out later today

https://www.aseaofred.com/5-reasons-lib ... he-top-25/