- December 31st, 2016, 2:32 pm
#525202
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Cider Jim wrote:McCracken helping with the Pack Line. He was louder than the announcers on the radio.Did anyone beside my wife and me hear a lady shouting in the background "shut up"toward the end of the game? That was really funny!
Chippy wrote:She's probably not the only one haCider Jim wrote:McCracken helping with the Pack Line. He was louder than the announcers on the radio.Did anyone beside my wife and me hear a lady shouting in the background "shut up"toward the end of the game? That was really funny!
Chippy wrote:I thought I heard someone say shutup when they were shooting free-throws and the crackin was a crackin.Cider Jim wrote:McCracken helping with the Pack Line. He was louder than the announcers on the radio.Did anyone beside my wife and me hear a lady shouting in the background "shut up"toward the end of the game? That was really funny!
jinxy wrote:When were hot we will win and when were not we will lose.Truth! BJ or Ballcoach coudn't have said it any better.
LUalum12 wrote:.... and Virginia is 305. It is a product of the pack-line for the most part. Not saying being a small team does not contribute.UVA is ranked 305 and is only getting 8.9 per game. LU is getting 4.9 . LU was 6th worst in the nation last year at 6.7. Only getting 4.9 offensive boards is insanely bad. There have only been a couple teams with lower offensive rebound averages in the last 15 years.
LUnpretty11 wrote:PH, your BJ skills impress me.
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LUalum12 wrote:.... and Virginia is 305. It is a product of the pack-line for the most part. Not saying being a small team does not contribute.Not saying there is no correlation, and the fact that both UVA and Arizona, who play the pack-line and have more size than us and great athletes are also not very good offensive rebounding teams would indicate there is, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around how your defensive system would have a huge impact on whether you get offensive boards or not
jcmanson wrote:We're 2-0 in conference play with both wins coming on the road by double figures. That's the first time we've done that in school history, but we're over here crying because we rank last in offensive rebounding.For some people, the glass is always have empty. Melville called it being "damned in the midst of paradise" (Capt. Ahab in Moby Dick).
LUalum12 wrote:Its simple, the pack-line calls for everyone to retreat after the shot allowing for the defense to get set. If you notice watching UVA when the shot goes up at least 3 most of the time 4 players star to retreat therefore not crashing the boards. The philosophy of the pack-line does not emphasize offensive rebounding but rather getting in the right defense set by retreating and not crashing the boards so to speak.That's not entirely accurate There are players who are dedicated to to back on defense. And they certainly aren't in the Michigan St mold of all 5 players crash the boards. But a lack of offensive rebounding has more to do with offense than defense
Cider Jim wrote:SO true...I mean we did something we have NEVER done before as manson noted...and instead of congratulating the team on the success...its complaining...I mean those things can't be overlooked obviously but the success cannot be overlooked eitherjcmanson wrote:We're 2-0 in conference play with both wins coming on the road by double figures. That's the first time we've done that in school history, but we're over here crying because we rank last in offensive rebounding.For some people, the glass is always have empty. Melville called it being "damned in the midst of paradise" (Capt. Ahab in Moby Dick).
Purple Haize wrote:I agree Purple How much emphasis is placed on getting back on defense as opposed to crashing the offensive boards is really a separate coaching decision from the defensive system you play, whether it is the Pack-line or a 1-3-1 zoneLUalum12 wrote:Its simple, the pack-line calls for everyone to retreat after the shot allowing for the defense to get set. If you notice watching UVA when the shot goes up at least 3 most of the time 4 players star to retreat therefore not crashing the boards. The philosophy of the pack-line does not emphasize offensive rebounding but rather getting in the right defense set by retreating and not crashing the boards so to speak.That's not entirely accurate There are players who are dedicated to to back on defense. And they certainly aren't in the Michigan St mold of all 5 players crash the boards. But a lack of offensive rebounding has more to do with offense than defense
Chippy wrote:It's a little disconcerting that of 347 teams in the NCAA we are DEAD LAST in offensive rebounds. I know we're small but . . . . .I notice in most college games, teams do not try very hard for offensive rebounds. Soon as ball is shot , most offensive players turn and head down the court to play defense. I have never liked this. Have one player drop back,(normally a guard), and the other 4 players crash the boards.
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