[Flamerz]

If the season started today, who do you think will be the Coach RMKs Starters/Main unit on this years team?

No. Name Pos Cl Ht.

4 Hansel Atencia G Freshman 5-10
13 Lovell Cabbil G Freshman 6-3
22 John Dawson G R-Sophomore 6-2 .
0 Anthony Fields G R-Senior 6-0
44 Ryan Hiepler G Freshman 6-0
3 Calvin Hoffman G Sophomore 6-0
1 Caleb Homesley G Freshman 6-4
14 Theo Johnson G/F Senior 6-7
5 Ryan Kemrite G/F R-Sophomore 6-4
15 Evan Maxwell C Sophomore 6-10
2 A.C. Reid G/F Sophomore 6-5
24 Ezra Talbert F R-Freshman 6-8

[BJWilliams]

If the season started today, who do you think will be the Coach RMKs Starters/Main unit on this years team?

No. Name Pos Cl Ht.

4 Hansel Atencia G Freshman 5-10
13 Lovell Cabbil G Freshman 6-3
22 John Dawson G R-Sophomore 6-2 .
0 Anthony Fields G R-Senior 6-0
44 Ryan Hiepler G Freshman 6-0
3 Calvin Hoffman G Sophomore 6-0
1 Caleb Homesley G Freshman 6-4
14 Theo Johnson G/F Senior 6-7
5 Ryan Kemrite G/F R-Sophomore 6-4
15 Evan Maxwell C Sophomore 6-10
2 A.C. Reid G/F Sophomore 6-5
24 Ezra Talbert F R-Freshman 6-8

My projected starting 5 in bold. Others in the rotation in italics. Dawson probably will move into the starting 5 after he becomes eligible

[TDDance234]

I think you're probably going to see a lot of this lineup:

Attencia
Dawson (when he becomes eligible)
Johnson
Reid
Maxwell

Fields, Kemrite, Homesley, and Talbert off the bench in that order.

[Flamerz]

4 Hansel Atencia G Freshman 5-10
13 Lovell Cabbil G Freshman 6-3
22 John Dawson G R-Sophomore 6-2 . when available
0 Anthony Fields G R-Senior 6-0
44 Ryan Hiepler G Freshman 6-0
3 Calvin Hoffman G Sophomore 6-0
1 Caleb Homesley G Freshman 6-4
14 Theo Johnson G/F Senior 6-7
5 Ryan Kemrite G/F R-Sophomore 6-4
15 Evan Maxwell C Sophomore 6-10
2 A.C. Reid G/F Sophomore 6-5
24 Ezra Talbert F R-Freshman 6- heard alooootta good things about Ezra

Are my picks.... Italics are the role guys for in my opinion...

[Sly Fox]

Theo is the only one that I think we can feel fairly good about starting. The rest will likely won't be fully decided until league play begins.

[olldflame]

I agree with Sly that the one guy who is a sure bet to start is Theo, who will probably not see more than 5 min a game on the bench, although I think other than the fact that Dawson won´t be eligible til second semester I do believe we will have a good idea of our rotation well before conference play.

Opening Game Starters

Fields
Cabbel
Kemrite
Johnson
Maxwell

While Maxwell is still a bit of a project, I´m going to guess Ritchie will start him, but I´ll be surprised if he plays much more than 20 minutes/game. Atencia is going to be a good one at PG, but I gave the starting nod to the 5th year Sr transfer over the true Fr. Somebody didn´t have Cabbel in their rotation? I think he will start, and wouldn´t be surprised if he leads us in scoring. I have Kemrite beating out Reid at the SF and Theo at the PF.

Talbert would be our only size off the bench. When Maxwell comes out I see him at the 4 with Theo sliding down to the 5. Reid shares minutes with Kemrite at the 3. Atencia will see minutes at the point, and could challenge for the start as the season progresses. Kemrite and Homesly would see backup minutes at the 2.

When Dawson becomes eligible, I see us going more with a small lineup with him playing both the 2 and the 3. At times we could be going very small, with Fields or Atencia, Cabbel, Dawson, Reid and Johnson.

[Purple Haize]

Theo Johnson
A shooter
A ball handler
A rebounder
A defensive stopper

Whoever fits those needs will play. I still have a Man Crush on Theo

[olldflame]

Theo Johnson
A shooter
A ball handler
A rebounder
A defensive stopper

Whoever fits those needs will play. I still have a Man Crush on Theo

Interesting perspective

I think Kemrite will be the shooter. Could be Reid.
Fields and Atencia will be the ball handlers
I don´t see anyone but Maxwell as being a true rebounder. Maybe Talbert, but I´m thinking rebounding may need to be pretty much a team effort most of the time.
Dawson can be our defensive stopper when he is eligible. Til then I guess Theo can do double duty. I recall Ritchie also saying that despite being so skinny, he thinks Cabbel can be a really good defender with his length and quickness.

To have a good year, we need Theo to be a star and Cabbel to develop into a second option who can create his own shot. Beyond that its all about effort and team play.

[jcmanson]

Theo will start
Kemrite will start
Dawson/Fields/Atencia fighting for 2 spots
Talbert/Maxwell fighting for 5th spot

[olldflame]

Theo will start
Kemrite will start
Dawson/Fields/Atencia fighting for 2 spots
Talbert/Maxwell fighting for 5th spot

We have to have another guard see significant minutes with Dawson not available the first 8 or 9 games. I don´t see any way we go with Atencia and Fields in the same lineup. If you recall, the ¨5 guard¨ lineup RMK used in 08-09 had Jesse and Seth in the backcourt. Both are 6´3¨ and gave us excellent rebounding at their positions. These guys are tiny. I believe Cabbel will be in the mix. If I´m wrong about how good I think he is it could be Kemrite or Homesley.

[olldflame]

Can someone tell us when the first semester ends? Dawson will be eligible the first game after that. I´m thinking 12/12 against Lamar or 12/17 against Princeton.

[BJWilliams]

I would not be surprised to see Homesley get a look as a starter if RMK wants to go with a "big guard" lineup, with him at the 1, CAbbill at the 2 (and safety valve at point), Kemrite at the 3, Reid at the 4 and Theo at the 5. Maxwell and Talbert are our only options if we want a "big" in the low post opposite TJ. Atencia, being 5-10, may struggle against bigger guards on defense, but if he can use his quicks, could still probably get to the rim.

As to your question olldflame, according to the official academic calendar on the registrar page, the semester ends December 18, which means he technically could debut against St Francis (NY) on the 20th

[Chippy]

I would not be surprised to see Homesley get a look as a starter if RMK wants to go with a "big guard" lineup, with him at the 1, CAbbill at the 2 (and safety valve at point), Kemrite at the 3, Reid at the 4 and Theo at the 5. Maxwell and Talbert are our only options if we want a "big" in the low post opposite TJ. Atencia, being 5-10, may struggle against bigger guards on defense, but if he can use his quicks, could still probably get to the rim.

As to your question olldflame, according to the official academic calendar on the registrar page, the semester ends December 18, which means he technically could debut against St Francis (NY) on the 20th

Sounds like a "Rupp's Runts" lineup. Adolph Rupp's tallest starter was 6'5" but had issues with Big Daddy David Latin in NCAA final in '66

[olldflame]

I would not be surprised to see Homesley get a look as a starter if RMK wants to go with a "big guard" lineup, with him at the 1, CAbbill at the 2 (and safety valve at point), Kemrite at the 3, Reid at the 4 and Theo at the 5. Maxwell and Talbert are our only options if we want a "big" in the low post opposite TJ. Atencia, being 5-10, may struggle against bigger guards on defense, but if he can use his quicks, could still probably get to the rim.

As to your question olldflame, according to the official academic calendar on the registrar page, the semester ends December 18, which means he technically could debut against St Francis (NY) on the 20th

If McKay thought Homesley could play the point, why would he go out and recruit Atencia and bring in Fields as a transfer (and another walk-on PG as well)? Homesley is not a PG. He is a 6´4¨ 2 guard who might be able to play some at the 3. We have no less than 6 players on the roster who would play the point before he does.

[BJWilliams]

It was just an idea olldflame...anyway Dawson becomes eligible for the St Francis game on December 20 as I said so hopefully that brings some clarity into the lineup/rotation

[Flamerz]

I would not be surprised to see Homesley get a look as a starter if RMK wants to go with a "big guard" lineup, with him at the 1, CAbbill at the 2 (and safety valve at point), Kemrite at the 3, Reid at the 4 and Theo at the 5. Maxwell and Talbert are our only options if we want a "big" in the low post opposite TJ. Atencia, being 5-10, may struggle against bigger guards on defense, but if he can use his quicks, could still probably get to the rim.

As to your question olldflame, according to the official academic calendar on the registrar page, the semester ends December 18, which means he technically could debut against St Francis (NY) on the 20th

If it were the ACC or Big 10 being 5'10 would be a detriment... But I just watched Andrew Rowsey drop like 30 a game and play defense for 2-3 years against Big South Guards at just 5'10.... I think he will be fine......

[Purple Haize]

I would not be surprised to see Homesley get a look as a starter if RMK wants to go with a "big guard" lineup, with him at the 1, CAbbill at the 2 (and safety valve at point), Kemrite at the 3, Reid at the 4 and Theo at the 5. Maxwell and Talbert are our only options if we want a "big" in the low post opposite TJ. Atencia, being 5-10, may struggle against bigger guards on defense, but if he can use his quicks, could still probably get to the rim.

As to your question olldflame, according to the official academic calendar on the registrar page, the semester ends December 18, which means he technically could debut against St Francis (NY) on the 20th

If it were the ACC or Big 10 being 5'10 would be a detriment... But I just watched Andrew Rowsey drop like 30 a game and play defense for 2-3 years against Big South Guards at just 5'10.... I think he will be fine......

rowsey never played defense

[Flamerz]

I would not be surprised to see Homesley get a look as a starter if RMK wants to go with a "big guard" lineup, with him at the 1, CAbbill at the 2 (and safety valve at point), Kemrite at the 3, Reid at the 4 and Theo at the 5. Maxwell and Talbert are our only options if we want a "big" in the low post opposite TJ. Atencia, being 5-10, may struggle against bigger guards on defense, but if he can use his quicks, could still probably get to the rim.

As to your question olldflame, according to the official academic calendar on the registrar page, the semester ends December 18, which means he technically could debut against St Francis (NY) on the 20th

If it were the ACC or Big 10 being 5'10 would be a detriment... But I just watched Andrew Rowsey drop like 30 a game and play defense for 2-3 years against Big South Guards at just 5'10.... I think he will be fine......

rowsey never played defense

He played good enough to be called up to Marquette
yeah but overall he wasn't a defender but he never got 30 or 40 dropped on him but I saw him drop 30 or 40 on multiple teams...

[olldflame]

We don´t know for sure yet how good a college player Hancel Atencia will be, but as far as his game is concerned, he is the Anti-Rowsey, a true pass first PG who is always looking to facilitate. The only thing they have in common is their stature. To this day I feel like Rowsey is overrated. He´s a defensive liability who has scored 20 a game (not 30) by shooting in volume. He hit less than 40% from the floor last year and 38% from 3. 3 apg with almost as many turnovers is not what you want from your PG. To his credit, he is a really good FT shooter.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... rew-rowsey

[Chris Lang]

Rowsey was not a PG. He took the ball up the floor some times, but Robertson and Vannatta ran point for them for the most part.

[olldflame]

Rowsey was not a PG. He took the ball up the floor some times, but Robertson and Vannatta ran point for them for the most part.

Point taken, but of course that was in the BSC. I really don´t see him playing the 2 at Marquette. He would be giving up a half a foot and 30-40 pounds and a lot of athleticism to pretty much everyone he went up against. I have a feeling Wojo went after Rowsey because he saw a player who reminded him of another little, white, not very athletic guard who was a big time scorer in HS and ended up being pretty good as a PG at the highest level of college basketball.

[Purple Haize]

'Lead Guard' may be the position you are trying to think of for Rowsey

[Flamerz]

We don´t know for sure yet how good a college player Hancel Atencia will be, but as far as his game is concerned, he is the Anti-Rowsey, a true pass first PG who is always looking to facilitate. The only thing they have in common is their stature. To this day I feel like Rowsey is overrated. He´s a defensive liability who has scored 20 a game (not 30) by shooting in volume. He hit less than 40% from the floor last year and 38% from 3. 3 apg with almost as many turnovers is not what you want from your PG. To his credit, he is a really good FT shooter.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... rew-rowsey

you are 100% Right Rowsey was a volume shooter and I doubt he will be that great at Marquette.
Hansel is a true Point Guard all I was saying is that 5'10 is not a height that puts fear in me in the Big South.

[BJWilliams]

Atencia will have some trouble with the bigger point guards, so he will need to compensate in some other area in order to offset that height difference

[TIMSCAR20]

[/quote]He played good enough to be called up to Marquette
yeah but overall he wasn't a defender but he never got 30 or 40 dropped on him but I saw him drop 30 or 40 on multiple teams...[/quote]

Actually he did get 40 dropped on him by QJ Peterson in a wild game vs VMI that went triple OT and had a SC Top Play #1 finish.