A Sea Of Red

Saturday's listed attendance with the top ranked BSC UNCA Bulldogs in town 2368. VMI hosted Winthrop and had 3665 in attendance. Even Campbell University had 2318 in Buies Creek, NC for their game with PC. The Furnace is flickering.

I think you forgot how many came last night.

jbock13 wrote:I think you forgot how many came last night.

2368 according to SID's box.

its a losing team, people don't come out to see losing teams. End of topic

from someone who was actually at the game (me!) the number on the jumbotron last night was like 4,700ish. that's a huge difference. if there is one thing to NOT complain about last night, its attendance.

flamesfan30 wrote:from someone who was actually at the game (me!) the number on the jumbotron last night was like 4,700ish. that's a huge difference. if there is one thing to NOT complain about last night, its attendance.

+1 I definitely looked like we had 4,000 people there. The atmosphere was the best we had this season.

What a dilemma. Believe people at the game or someone with an axe to grind quoting a notoriously faulty source of information?

truth, your agenda is tired. VMI had a basketball alumni day which is always well attended because it brought back the old timers for the keydets glory days which we all know they love to talk about. Campbell had a mens/womens doubleheader. If you want to raise an agenda, how about calling out the students to show up more? they are inside so there should be zero excuses for its too cold. the bottom line is winning cures all and it has been proven when we when the attendance numbers go up. Maybe sports marketing needs to do a better job, and put more effort into basketball like they do football. the guys are playing hard, they are simply undermanned. I hope Layer gets another year with a full deck to show everyone what he can do. Do i agree with everything he does? no, but instead of bashing why not bring some solutions to the table?

bigsmooth wrote:truth, your agenda is tired. VMI had a basketball alumni day which is always well attended because it brought back the old timers for the keydets glory days which we all know they love to talk about. Campbell had a mens/womens doubleheader. If you want to raise an agenda, how about calling out the students to show up more? they are inside so there should be zero excuses for its too cold. the bottom line is winning cures all and it has been proven when we when the attendance numbers go up. Maybe sports marketing needs to do a better job, and put more effort into basketball like they do football. the guys are playing hard, they are simply undermanned. I hope Layer gets another year with a full deck to show everyone what he can do. Do i agree with everything he does? no, but instead of bashing why not bring some solutions to the table?

That is the key. We win on a regular basis students and others will begin to show up more often. That is how it was when I was there and it doesn't seem like it has changed. Yes, if they put as much effort into basketball, marketing wise, as they did with football it would help a little but we all know the best way to market yourself is to have a good product. Football has a good product, so therefore there is more support.

I am not sure why that is a tough thing for some people to grasp but I guess bitterness does amazing things to blind people.

Then again I am just a kool-aid drinker, what do I know??

I go to all the games and I was guessing 2500. 2368 may be accurate. It would be nice to start having the Vines fill up a little more. It did get loud on sevearl occasions and it would have been great had we wn. Nonetheless, we "showed up" and played with a lot of heart and can't ask anything more from the team or coaches except for the ball to go in a little more often

I watched the game on TV and it didn't look like 4700... 2500 looked more like it.

This a dumb argument anyways...

Dr. Falwell use to attend all the basketball games. That's all I'll say about this.

Chippy wrote:Dr. Falwell use to attend all the basketball games. That's all I'll say about this.

That sounded a lot like Forest Gump.

Chippy wrote:Dr. Falwell use to attend all the basketball games. That's all I'll say about this.

We crowdsurfed him at a women's game in 1998. My back still hurts.

UNC Asheville vs Liberty
02-04-12 7 p.m. at Lynchburg, Va. (Vines Center)
UNC Asheville 65

Total 3-point Rebounds
## Player p fgm-fga fgm-fga ftm-fta off-def tot pf tp a to blk stl min
04 STEPHENSON, Chris f 3-11 0-1 0-0 3-8 11 4 6 6 2 0 0 29
15 ATKINSON, Jeremy f 5-10 0-2 0-0 3-7 10 0 10 3 0 0 1 36
32 JACKSON, Quinard f 4-10 1-2 0-0 3-8 11 3 9 0 1 1 1 28
02 DICKEY, Matt g 4-13 0-2 5-6 3-2 5 1 13 3 3 0 0 36
03 PRIMM, J.P. g 5-12 0-5 2-2 1-1 2 2 12 5 0 0 0 39
05 LANE, Jaron - 6-9 2-2 1-2 1-2 3 1 15 0 1 0 1 24
23 HORNSBY, Keith - 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 4
35 NWANNUNU, Jon - 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-2 2 1 0 0 1 1 0 4
TM Team - - - - 2-1 3 - - - - - - -
Totals.............. - 27-65 3-14 8-10 16-31 47 13 65 17 8 2 4 200
41.5% 21.4% 80.0%
Team summary: FG 3FG FT
1st Half: 10-31 1-7 1-2
32.3% 14.3% 50.0%
2nd Half: 17-34 2-7 7-8
50.0% 28.6% 87.5%
Liberty 51

Total 3-point Rebounds
## Player p fgm-fga fgm-fga ftm-fta off-def tot pf tp a to blk stl min
13 GIELO, Tomasz f 2-3 1-1 0-0 0-3 3 0 5 2 2 0 0 16
24 BURRUS, Antwan f 3-8 0-0 2-4 3-7 10 1 8 0 1 4 0 32
14 MINAYA, David g 5-17 0-2 3-4 1-1 2 3 13 2 1 0 0 33
22 SPEAKS, Tavares g 2-7 0-0 0-0 1-1 2 3 4 1 1 1 1 37
25 SANDERS, Jesse g 1-5 1-2 1-2 2-4 6 4 4 6 2 0 0 39
02 PHILLIPS, Chene - 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0+
03 AIKENS, Walt - 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0+
05 ASSINESI, Kelly - 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1
15 LAYER, Ethan - 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
21 VANDER POL, Joel - 1-3 0-0 0-0 0-2 2 0 2 0 0 2 0 12
33 SANDERS, John Caleb - 5-11 4-7 1-3 0-3 3 4 15 1 1 0 1 29
TM TEAM - - - - 1-2 3 - - - - - - -
Totals.............. - 19-54 6-12 7-13 8-23 31 16 51 12 9 7 2 200
35.2% 50.0% 53.8%
Team summary: FG 3FG FT
1st Half: 9-24 4-5 0-0
37.5% 80.0% 0.0%
2nd Half: 10-30 2-7 7-13
33.3% 28.6% 53.8%
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
UNC Asheville 22 43 65 Record: (18-7, 13-1 BSC)
Liberty 22 29 51 Record: (9-16, 4-9 BSC)

Points in the paint-ASHM 38,LIBERTY 16. Points off turnovers-ASHM 8,LIBERTY 11.
2nd chance points-ASHM 16,LIBERTY 7. Fast break points-ASHM 8,LIBERTY 0.
Bench points-ASHM 15,LIBERTY 17. Score tied-5 times. Lead changed-4 times.
Last FG-ASHM 2nd-00:32, LIBERTY 2nd-00:52.
Largest lead-ASHM by 15 2nd-04:19, LIBERTY by 3 2nd-15:56.
Officials: Tony Henderson (R), Barry Mathis, Damon Williams
Technical fouls: UNC Asheville-None. Liberty-None.
Attendance: 2368

Another Saturday game in February during a similar season in 2006....

Official Basketball Box Score
Charleston Southern vs Liberty
02-11-06 7 p.m. at Lynchburg, Va. (Vines Center)
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VISITORS: Charleston Southern (10-13, 5-7 BSC)
TOT-FG 3-PT REBOUNDS
## Player Name FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF TP A TO BLK S MIN
10 DRAFTS, Trent....... f 1-8 1-6 3-4 2 3 5 3 6 0 0 0 1 29
33 CAIN, Ferdinand..... f 1-6 0-0 0-1 2 4 6 1 2 0 1 4 0 24
01 JACKSON, Dwayne..... g 3-7 1-3 3-3 1 3 4 1 10 1 2 0 1 23
02 MOORE, Chris........ g 6-11 3-6 5-7 1 3 4 4 20 5 2 0 1 38
15 COVINGTON, Donnell.. g 1-4 0-1 3-4 0 1 1 4 5 1 2 1 2 20
05 WILLIAMS, Mario..... 2-4 0-0 0-2 0 1 1 2 4 0 1 0 0 5
11 HARRISON, Thomas.... 4-6 0-1 0-0 1 6 7 1 8 1 2 0 0 17
12 BROWN, Terrell...... 0-4 0-2 1-2 0 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 22
23 HUGER, Vernon....... 1-1 0-0 3-4 3 5 8 2 5 0 1 0 0 22
TEAM................ 1 2 3
Totals.............. 19-51 5-19 18-27 11 28 39 19 61 11 11 5 5 200

TOTAL FG% 1st Half: 7-22 31.8% 2nd Half: 12-29 41.4% Game: 37.3% DEADB
3-Pt. FG% 1st Half: 2-8 25.0% 2nd Half: 3-11 27.3% Game: 26.3% REBS
F Throw % 1st Half: 7-9 77.8% 2nd Half: 11-18 61.1% Game: 66.7% 2

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HOME TEAM: Liberty (5-18, 2-9 BSC)
TOT-FG 3-PT REBOUNDS
## Player Name FG-FGA FG-FGA FT-FTA OF DE TOT PF TP A TO BLK S MIN
30 MONROE, Russell..... f 3-5 0-0 0-0 2 5 7 0 6 0 2 2 0 12
33 PORTER, Rell........ f 0-1 0-0 0-1 1 5 6 5 0 2 0 0 0 31
05 SMITH, Anthony...... g 2-7 1-2 4-5 0 3 3 1 9 1 1 0 0 36
11 HUBBARD, Damien..... g 3-7 0-1 3-4 3 5 8 2 9 1 3 1 1 33
22 BLAIR, Larry........ g 5-23 2-7 0-0 1 3 4 3 12 1 0 0 2 37
02 RISHER, Evan........ 2-5 1-3 1-2 1 2 3 3 6 2 2 0 0 27
04 BIGBY, Eric......... 0-2 0-0 2-4 1 2 3 1 2 0 2 0 1 11
21 ECK, Jeremy......... 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 3 0 0 2 0 0 10
44 STEWART, Doug....... 0-0 0-0 1-2 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 3
TEAM................ 2 2 4 1
Totals.............. 15-51 4-13 11-18 11 28 39 21 45 7 13 3 4 200

TOTAL FG% 1st Half: 7-22 31.8% 2nd Half: 8-29 27.6% Game: 29.4% DEADB
3-Pt. FG% 1st Half: 1-5 20.0% 2nd Half: 3-8 37.5% Game: 30.8% REBS
F Throw % 1st Half: 3-6 50.0% 2nd Half: 8-12 66.7% Game: 61.1% 4

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Officials: Dan Stryffeler (R), Tim Comer, Billy Covington, Jr.
Technical fouls: Charleston Southern-None. Liberty-TEAM.
Attendance: 2109
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
Charleston Southern........... 23 38 - 61
Liberty....................... 18 27 - 45
Fouled Out: LU #33 (2:46, 2nd)

See....we both can do this.

Its about winning teams, nothing more. Clam down

And that even includes the 200 that Barber tacked on!

thepostman wrote:Another Saturday game in February during a similar season in 2006....

Official Basketball Box Score
Charleston Southern vs Liberty
02-11-06 7 p.m. at Lynchburg, Va. (Vines Center)



Technical fouls: Charleston Southern-None. Liberty-TEAM.
Attendance: 2109
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
Charleston Southern........... 23 38 - 61
Liberty....................... 18 27 - 45
Fouled Out: LU #33 (2:46, 2nd)

See....we both can do this.

Its about winning teams, nothing more. Clam down

Wonder who the T was on.

Purple Haize wrote:

Chippy wrote:Dr. Falwell use to attend all the basketball games. That's all I'll say about this.

That sounded a lot like Forest Gump.

"Life is like a box of chocolates". He actually stole that line from me. I could have been a star

NotAJerry wrote:

Chippy wrote:Dr. Falwell use to attend all the basketball games. That's all I'll say about this.

We crowdsurfed him at a women's game in 1998. My back still hurts.

Yeah! The good ole' days

rogers3 wrote:

thepostman wrote:Another Saturday game in February during a similar season in 2006....

Official Basketball Box Score
Charleston Southern vs Liberty
02-11-06 7 p.m. at Lynchburg, Va. (Vines Center)



Technical fouls: Charleston Southern-None. Liberty-TEAM.
Attendance: 2109
Score by Periods 1st 2nd Total
Charleston Southern........... 23 38 - 61
Liberty....................... 18 27 - 45
Fouled Out: LU #33 (2:46, 2nd)

See....we both can do this.

Its about winning teams, nothing more. Clam down

Wonder who the T was on.

Chuck Martin? Alexis Sherod

Winning does "cure all". But I do not see LU winning anytime soon. Face it folks, we do not have a good team. Almost every team , if not all that come into Vines Center are bigger and more athletic than us. We need to recruit and sign better talent.

ballcoach15 wrote:Winning does "cure all". But I do not see LU winning anytime soon. Face it folks, we do not have a good team. Almost every team , if not all that come into Vines Center are bigger and more athletic than us. We need to recruit and sign better talent.

Bigger and more athletic does not always translate into success.

ballcoach15 wrote:Winning does "cure all". But I do not see LU winning anytime soon. Face it folks, we do not have a good team. Almost every team , if not all that come into Vines Center are bigger and more athletic than us. We need to recruit and sign better talent.

ballcoach15 look out for expressing the obvious Purple Haize will call you gutless.

If we don't get bigger and more athletic, we will never have a winning record again. Our current offensive/defensive schemes are not working and will never work.