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All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 10:26 am
by jcmanson
Who is the best at each position we've ever had?
Note: must have played minimum of 2 years at LU

PG?
2 guard?
3?
4?
Center?

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 10:53 am
by bballfan84
jcmanson wrote:Who is the best at each position we've ever had?
Note: must have played minimum of 2 years at LU

PG?
2 guard?
3?
4?
Center?
1- J Sanders??? I dont have much experience with Liberty before the 1999 so not sure this is the right choice
2- Larry Blair
3- Anthony Smith
4- Gabe Martin
5- Peter Alumna

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 11:30 am
by jcmanson
1- Either Jesse or Karl. I'll give the nod to Jesse
2 - Karl/BA/LB. Can BA play the 3? If so, give me LB here.
3 - BA if he can play it. Anthony Smith if not
4 - Someone give me some info on Steve Isaacs and Ed Vickers. Are they worthy? They have the stats.
5 - Aluma

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 11:33 am
by Purple Haize
1.SCAR
2. Tyler Baker
3. Eric Sorensen
4. Matt Hildebrand
5. CJ vThe Lady Killer or whatever the PG from Hawaii's name was under Hanky

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 11:41 am
by TDDance234
1- Jesse
2- Blair
3 - A. Smith
4 - Martin
5 - Aluma

Leo Lightbourne gets a nod around here somewhere, with Woodson finishing a close second behind Jesse, IMO.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 12:11 pm
by TIMSCAR20
1. Hess
2 Blair
3 Alston
4. Nwoso
5 Aluma

Bench: Gabe Martin, Anthony Smith, Matt Hildebrand, Jesse Sanders, Mike Coleman, Alex McLean, Marcus White.

Honorable Mention:

Leo Lightbourne, Brian Woodson, Karl Williams, Chris Caldwell, Larry Jackson, Darryl Williams, Cliff Webber, Greg McCauley,

My list is probably missing some that played with Hess or prior but I don't have enough info to go on. I understand there were some special athletes back then.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 12:25 pm
by Rooster Cogburn
Willard Deshaso and Ed Gomes?

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 12:42 pm
by TIMSCAR20
I'm going to slide Leo Lightbourne to Honorable mention and put David Dees on my bench.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 12:58 pm
by Sly Fox
The challenge ia in identifying a 3. Bailey really was a 2 and of the 5 positions, the wing has historically not been strong for us. But if Scar who played alongside him feels comfortable lists him as a 3, who I to argue?

1. Jesse
2. Larry
3. Bailey
4. Juice
5. Peter

Traditionally we have been strong in the backcourt with Hess, Hildo, LJ & Caldwell all worthy of some consideration.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 1:01 pm
by jcmanson
I thought about putting Julius in at the 4. He and Aluma are no doubt the best 2 bigs we've had.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 1:01 pm
by jcmanson
Jesse
Larry
Bailey
Julius
Aluma

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 1:02 pm
by Sly Fox
Juice played like a 4 even though he was down in the post most of the time.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 1:19 pm
by flamehunter
jcmanson wrote:I thought about putting Julius in at the 4. He and Aluma are no doubt the best 2 bigs we've had.
Agreed, but Cliff Webber (the original C-Webb) was not terribly far behind, especially in his senior year. Guy had elbows and could do some serious banging inside. I believe the Celtics drafted him.

And if we ever do an all-time under 6' team, I like Freddy Morgan - 5'7", hit some huge shots in clutch situations, fun to watch.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 1:33 pm
by IMBach
1-Marcus White/Matt Hildebrand/Jesse Sanders
2-Larry Blair/Larry Jackson/Karl Hess
3-Bailey Alston/Anthony Smith/David Dees
4-Gabe Martin/Leo Lightbourne/Darryl Williams
5-Peter Aluma/Juliu Nwosu/Alex Mclean

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 3:06 pm
by BJWilliams
1- Jesse Sanders
2- Karl Hess
3- Anthony Smith
4- Alex McLean
5- Peter Aluma

Bench
Bailey Alston
Larry Blair
Brian Woodson
Jason Sarchet
Chris Caldwell
Ryan Mantlo
Julius Nwosu
Tim Scarborough
Matt Hildebrand

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 3:13 pm
by Cider Jim
I've been watching LBC / LU basketball since 1979, and this would be my starting 5:

1-Jesse
2-Hess
3-Bailey
4-Aluma (thin, shot-blocking version)
5-Juice

note: if we are talking a true power forward, it would have to go to Ace with Coleman and Burrus as his understudy (the 40 points Ace dropped against VMI in Lexington may have been the greatest single game performace that I've ever witnessed in an LU uniform).

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 3:49 pm
by TIMSCAR20
BJWilliams wrote:1- Jesse Sanders
2- Karl Hess
3- Anthony Smith
4- Alex McLean
5- Peter Aluma

Bench
Bailey Alston
Brian Woodson
Jason Sarchet
Chris Caldwell
Ryan Mantlo
Julius Nwosu
Tim Scarborough
Matt Hildebrand

BJ you didn't put Larry Blair on your list? Secondly you put Tim Scarborough on there? I don't know which one is more of a mistake :oops:

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 3:53 pm
by BJWilliams
I was more putting together a roster. The thing with Larry is that he was an excellent player, but I think it was more of a "lets give the ball to Larry and watch" style when he was here. Itd be interesting to see how Jesse would have worked with someone like him though

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 4:01 pm
by IMBach
BJWilliams wrote:I was more putting together a roster. The thing with Larry is that he was an excellent player, but I think it was more of a "lets give the ball to Larry and watch" style when he was here. Itd be interesting to see how Jesse would have worked with someone like him though
Nobody dominates the ball more than Jesse that is part our problem. He would have loved to have LB finishing for him.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 4:06 pm
by BJWilliams
Jesse doesnt really "dominate" the ball from what Ive seen. Someone with as many assists as he does at least knew when to make the right pass.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 4:51 pm
by prototype
IMBach wrote:1-Marcus White/Matt Hildebrand/Jesse Sanders
2-Larry Blair/Larry Jackson/Karl Hess
3-Bailey Alston/Anthony Smith/David Dees
4-Gabe Martin/Leo Lightbourne/Darryl Williams
5-Peter Aluma/Juliu Nwosu/Alex Mclean
Not sure who this is, but they know our basketball program pretty well... IMO.

White was the best talent to ever play here, but Hildebrand was the best Point Guard.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 5:08 pm
by olldflame
I have to say that while Julius and Peter were both really post players, Nwosu did play the PF position his first year, with Mike Coleman in the post so I give him the edge over Gabe Martin, who also played out of position at the 4 for one year.

My Team:

1. Jesse Sanders
2. Bailey Alston
3. Ed Vickers
4. Julious Nwosu
5. Peter Aluma

Baily beats out Hess at the 2. He would have surpassed Karl as our scoring leader had he played here 4 years, and he played against tougher competition. Ed Vickers over Smitty simply because I wanted someone from that era, and along with Bailey and Willard DeShazor, he was one of my alltime favorites to watch. I believe his game would have held up well at the D1 level. I know some voted Hess in at the 1, but even though he had a lot of career assists, Karl was never really a PG. He played the position when we had noone else who could do it.

Probably the best we ever had at the 4 didn't qualify because he only played one year..... Parrish Hickman.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 30th, 2012, 5:16 pm
by TIMSCAR20
Hickman and Brewington would be on the list if they had played here more than one year. No one ever mentions TJ Bannister either because he only played one year but his assists were pretty Highlight reel worthy most nights. Obviously Seth Curry would have been an all time great too. Best 1 year wonders:

Seth Curry Transferred to Duke
Parrish Hickman - Transferred From Michigan State and was a key player during Steve Smith's sweet 16 team.
Dwight Brewington - Transferred from Providence
TJ Bannister - Transferred from Virginia
Karl Williams - Transferred from West VA

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 31st, 2012, 9:44 am
by truthorconsequences
Scar...does any point guard really compare to Marcus White? Maybe Teejay.

Re: All-time starting lineup

Posted: January 31st, 2012, 9:45 am
by jcmanson
truthorconsequences wrote:Scar...does any point guard really compare to Marcus White? Maybe Teejay.
jcmanson wrote:Note: must have played minimum of 2 years at LU