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Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 10:18 am
by jcmanson
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WU 2-3

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Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 10:52 am
by LUconn
They held VMI to 63. Pretty impressive.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 12:07 pm
by olldflame
Nobody ever said Winthrop can't play defense. As far as how many points they scored, we know from experience that you can score a bunch of points on VMI this year if you can just make layups. Obviously a step in the right direction for a WU team that has been struggling, but 1 game does not a season make. I'm expecting a knock-down drag-out Saturday afternoon.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 1:56 pm
by lusparky
Is anyone else worried about this game? Winthrop is 2-3 in the conference, but one of those losses was a 2-point lost to Radford, another was a 10-point loss to Coastal and a narrow lost at CSU. You throw out the CSU game and the other two are pretty legit losses. Not to mention LU's youth and being on a road for a few days, that doesn't favor LU. I think if we can survive the first half we have a good chance, but the key is hitting shots against their tough defense. We've got to get this game into the upper 60's or 70's to win.

The thing that bothers me is that I don't think Winthrop is a great team, they have no players scoring in double figures, in fact they don't have a player scoring 8 points a game. We can get this team at home, but on the road, they will have a really tough time keeping our cool and not giving the ball up on turnovers.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 2:47 pm
by olldflame
The way I look at it, a win over WU would be a huge bonus. Winning 3 games in a row on the road in conference is almost too much to ask for a young team like this.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 3:41 pm
by SumItUp
It is always a challenge to get a conference road win. If our young team can come away from Rock Hill with a victory, that would be a very good accomplishment. It's interesting how quickly the general mood on FF can change. After the tournament in Orlando, there was not any talk about the possibility of having the best 5-game conference start to a season.

I'm curious to see how Realist responds IF Winthrop loses.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 7:30 pm
by SuperJon
SumItUp wrote:I'm curious to see how Realist responds IF Winthrop loses.
He's already talking:
They are the softest team in the league and we should dominate the boards and defensively-----if the refs let us play the game and not call boy band fouls.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 8:10 pm
by Schfourteenteen
Great setup. If WU wins, WU wins. If WU loses, the Refs gave Liberty the game.

I wish "Boy Band Fouls" was an actual concept. If you create a boy band, you get fined and sent to France. Great idea.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 8:45 pm
by BJWilliams
So if we won by +15 would he still say the refs gave us the game since its kinda hard for the refs to give a team that big of a margin without SOMEBODY getting suspicious (Im not saying it will happen that way just speculating since Realist is about the most myopic fanboy Ive ever seen on here)

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 9:14 am
by jcmanson
SuperJon wrote:
SumItUp wrote:I'm curious to see how Realist responds IF Winthrop loses.
He's already talking:
They are the softest team in the league and we should dominate the boards and defensively-----if the refs let us play the game and not call boy band fouls.
He's ALWAYS talking. I like to go over there and stir the pot occasionally, and he always makes it worthwhile. :D

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 9:58 am
by Cider Jim
They are the softest team in the league and we should dominate the boards.
Common opponent rebounding:
Winthrop +11 over VMI (46-35)
LU +28 over VMI (50-22)

In recent games, our 1 & 3 have had triple-doubles, and our new 5 had a double-double in his last game.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 12:28 pm
by jcmanson
Great stat CJ :clapping

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 12:53 pm
by Sly Fox
Key Players


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#4 Reggie Middleton
6' 1" Sophomore Point Guard
Thru 15 Games: Averaging 7.9 Pts & 3.0 Rebs with Team-High 39 Assists



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#5 Matt Morgan
6' 9" Sophomore Center
Thru 15 Games: Averaging 7.9 Pts & 4.1 Rebs with Team-High 14 Blocks with 50% on FGs



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#15 Andy Buechert
6' 10" Senior Center
Thru 15 Games: Averaging 7.2 Pts & 6.9 Rebs with 45.5% FGs



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#21 Andre Jones
6' 2" Sophomore Guard
Thru 15 Games: Averaging 7.6 Pts & 2.5 Rebs with 34.7% on FGs & 25.6 on 3-Pt Attempts



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#33 Mantoris Robinson
6' 5" Senior Forward
Thru 15 Games: Averaging 6.6 Pts & 5.7 Rebs w/ Team-High 32 Steals + 30.9 FG% & 13% 3-Pt Attempts

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 1:18 pm
by Sly Fox
A couple more nuggets on the Eagles:

WU is 5-2 at Winthrop Coliseum this season including 2-1 in Big South action.

WU is shooting 36.4% from the floor collectively this season and just 25.5% from behind the arc.

2009-2010 Results
  • 11/14 - LIMESTONE .............................. W 57-55 (3178)
    11/17 - @ College of Charleston ............... L 69-57
    11/21 - USC UPSTATE ........................... W 49-46 (1986)
    11/23 - @ Clemson ............................... L 102-66
    11/30 - @ Appalachian State ................... L 70-51
    12/03 - RADFORD* ................................ L 61-59 in OT (2042)
    12/05 - HIGH POINT* ............................ W 82-68 (2028)
    12/12 - BARTON .................................. W 64-51 (2308)
    12/16 - @ USC Upstate .......................... W 62-53
    12/20 - CHARLOTTE .............................. L 57-47 (3084)
    12/22 - @ Cincinnati ............................. L 74-57
    12/29 - @ NC State ............................... L 68-52
    01/02 - @ Coastal Carolina* ..................... L 57-47
    01/04 - @ Charleston Southern* ............... L 57-54
    01/07 - VMI* ....................................... W 96-63 (1923)

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 1:26 pm
by olldflame
No link posted on channelsurfing yet. Hopefully they will add it.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 1:45 pm
by TIMSCAR20
Realist is sort of right about the officiating dictating how the game goes. WU is more physical than most mid majors and if they allow them to foul and hold (ok play physical) then they are tough to score on. Their 39% FG percentage makes it ugly on both ends of the floor. I think we have a chance to win the game though. 4-1 start would be awesome! Go Flames!

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 4:39 pm
by jcmanson
Geese Sly, those are some ugly mugs!

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 4:43 pm
by Chris Lang

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 4:51 pm
by jcmanson
Appreciate it Chris.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 4:57 pm
by SuperJon
Holy crap I'm already annoyed at Winthrop's announcer. He's trying to to enunciate waaaay too much.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 5:00 pm
by jcmanson
SuperJon wrote:Holy crap I'm already annoyed at Winthrop's announcer. He's trying to to enunciate waaaay too much.
I'm guessing you're on the Edge

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 5:02 pm
by SuperJon
He sounds exactly like Johnnie Moore. High pitched, over-enunciated, and annoying.


Yeah, I'm on the BSN.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 5:02 pm
by BeatYouToIt
Why doesn't Liberty's radio work... yet again.

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 5:03 pm
by jcmanson
seriously, news again? This sux

Re: Game 17: @ Winthrop - 4pm This Afternoon

Posted: January 9th, 2010, 5:03 pm
by jcmanson
anyone with a link to WU's radio feed?