Big South Midseason Report Card

Big South Midseason Report Card#229359

By Sly Fox - January 29th, 2009, 9:27 am

- January 29th, 2009, 9:27 am #229359

Charleston Post and Courier wrote:--All-Big South: Another league, another Curry. Seth Curry, that is, who is averaging 20.5 points for Liberty and is the top scoring freshman in the nation. He's joined by teammate Anthony Smith, Gardner-Webb's Grayson Flittner and VMI's Chavis Holmes in the backcourt. Up front is Radford junior Artsiom Parakhouski, a 6-11, 260-pounder from Belarus who is averaging 14.3 points and a league-best 10.5 rebounds.

And more ...

--Big South Freshman of the Year: Seth Curry.

--All in the Family: Might buy a ticket for this 2-on-2 game in the driveway — The Curry brothers (averaging 49.8 points between them) vs. twin brothers Chavis and Travis Holmes of VMI (41.1 ppg between them).

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#229406

By Cider Jim - January 29th, 2009, 12:00 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:00 pm #229406

Jesse Sanders doesn't even make the midseason 2nd team all conference???

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#229408

By ToTheLeft - January 29th, 2009, 12:01 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:01 pm #229408

Why would he CJ? He's the 4th best, numbers wise, on our team.

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#229409

By Cider Jim - January 29th, 2009, 12:04 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:04 pm #229409

I guess all conference is all about scoring leaders, isn't it? If that's the case, then Jesse doesn't have a chance.

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#229417

By Hold My Own - January 29th, 2009, 12:11 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:11 pm #229417

yeah, he's one of those guys that will never get the credit but we know he's the fuel to the engine

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#229419

By ToTheLeft - January 29th, 2009, 12:12 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:12 pm #229419

Hold My Own wrote:yeah, he's one of those guys that will never get the credit but we know he's the fuel to the engine

Exactly. I love Jesse, but he's never gonna make a BSC team with the numbers he puts up. 7 points, 7 boards, 7 dimes isn't good enough.

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#229420

By jcmanson - January 29th, 2009, 12:13 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:13 pm #229420

ToTheLeft wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:yeah, he's one of those guys that will never get the credit but we know he's the fuel to the engine
Exactly. I love Jesse, but he's never gonna make a BSC team.

I doubt that. He may not make one this year, but I’m willing to bet he will before his career is done.

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#229421

By Hold My Own - January 29th, 2009, 12:16 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:16 pm #229421

jcmanson wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:yeah, he's one of those guys that will never get the credit but we know he's the fuel to the engine
Exactly. I love Jesse, but he's never gonna make a BSC team.
I doubt that. He may not make one this year, but I’m willing to bet he will before his career is done.

I hope so but theres a lot of factors that go into that....like his brother coming, or being out recruited...I'm still not sure Jesse will ever be one of our top scorers and let's be honest, that's about his only chance unless he's shelling out 15 dimes a game

Sly Fox wrote:In my experience with the Falwell family over the past 30+ years, they have never been shy about stating what they believe and standing by it. If anything it should be on their family crest.

#229430

By Sly Fox - January 29th, 2009, 12:41 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:41 pm #229430

Jesse is a scorer but that hasn't been his role this year. I think you'll see both Jesse and Brolin have their point totals rise quite a bit as sophs. Then again, I also see Carter having a strong impact on the scoring column next season.

#229433

By SuperJon - January 29th, 2009, 12:42 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:42 pm #229433

Sly Fox wrote:Jesse is a scorer but that hasn't been his role this year. I think you'll see both Jesse and Brolin have their point totals rise quite a bit as sophs. Then again, I also see Carter having a strong impact on the scoring column next season.

And Minaya. And Jeremy.

We've have a lot more options to score next year which will be very good.

#229435

By ToTheLeft - January 29th, 2009, 12:44 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:44 pm #229435

And Lee. And VanderPol.

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#229437

By SuperJon - January 29th, 2009, 12:44 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:44 pm #229437

ToTheLeft wrote:And Lee. And VanderPol.

I try not to expect anything out of freshmen before they arrive on campus.

#229438

By ToTheLeft - January 29th, 2009, 12:45 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:45 pm #229438

They're possible options, at least.

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#229440

By jcmanson - January 29th, 2009, 12:49 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:49 pm #229440

You guys are forgetting all about Austin.

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#229443

By SuperJon - January 29th, 2009, 12:55 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 12:55 pm #229443

jcmanson wrote:You guys are forgetting all about Austin.

He's still got developing to do. Minaya and Anderson have proven they can score at the Division I level. Carter and Austin still have to develop and show that they can before I actually expect anything out of them. I'm sure they can, but I'm not gonna expect it yet.

#229469

By WinthropEagleFan - January 29th, 2009, 1:33 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 1:33 pm #229469

Absolutely no chance that Jesse Sanders gets all-conference consideration this year. First of all, point guards that aren't big scorers don't get much love at all when it comes to the Big South all-conference teams. Chris Gaynor led WU to four titles at the PG spot, finished as the conference's all time leader in assists and steals, and only managed to make 2nd-team all-conference once.

Also, with 10 teams in the league, there is a ton of competition for the 10 spots. If you try and make an all-conference team now, you have to leave out some good players.

And Sanders has been very good, but he'll have a tough battle to make the all-freshman team. There's about 10-12 guys in the league right now that can make a case to be on that squad. Seth Curry and Keith Gabriel have pretty much reserved their spots, so you have 8-10 guys battling for 3 spots.

#229485

By TDDance234 - January 29th, 2009, 1:59 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 1:59 pm #229485

We need Jesse to be more of a 7-7-7 guy than anything else. You could see during the Radford game, how much havoc he was creating off the dribble. We have very very good scorers already in Ohman, Smith and Curry. Without someone getting them the ball, we're toast.

Brian Woodson was a very good PG for us...and without Woodson, Blair (and to a lesser extent, Dees) isn't as good as advertised, IMO.

#229489

By BJWilliams - January 29th, 2009, 2:04 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 2:04 pm #229489

I agree with TDD...Woodson really was what made us go especially in the championship year of 2004. His ability to create and find the open man opened a lot of scoring chances for Blair and Dees and even Gabe Martin...

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#229490

By Hold My Own - January 29th, 2009, 2:04 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 2:04 pm #229490

TDDance234 wrote:Brian Woodson was a very good PG for us...and without Woodson, Blair (and to a lesser extent, Dees) isn't as good as advertised, IMO.

Without a doubt...I was having the conversation with someone comparing KO's outbursts at times to Woodsons but I was quickly reminded how Woodson always had a good grasp of situations and would never allow his temper cause a hindrance during key parts of the game

Sly Fox wrote:In my experience with the Falwell family over the past 30+ years, they have never been shy about stating what they believe and standing by it. If anything it should be on their family crest.

#229512

By jcmanson - January 29th, 2009, 2:47 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 2:47 pm #229512

SuperJon wrote:
jcmanson wrote:You guys are forgetting all about Austin.
He's still got developing to do. Minaya and Anderson have proven they can score at the Division I level. Carter and Austin still have to develop and show that they can before I actually expect anything out of them. I'm sure they can, but I'm not gonna expect it yet.

I was joking

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#229527

By SuperJon - January 29th, 2009, 3:27 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 3:27 pm #229527

Question:

If Seth Curry (or any freshman really) makes first or second team all-conference, should he be included in the All-Freshman team? It seems like since he got the higher honor it'd be pointless to give the freshman one (except for FOY) and the conference could honor one more player in his place.

#229528

By Sly Fox - January 29th, 2009, 3:30 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 3:30 pm #229528

If he were named Player of Year, they would likely give Freshman of Year to someone else. But being selected first team wouldn't prohibit the FOY designation.

#229568

By TIMSCAR20 - January 29th, 2009, 5:45 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 5:45 pm #229568

I believe Whit HF and Blair were 1st team all conf the same year they were freshmen of the year but I will have to check on that. Also the year Tony Dunkin from Coastal was fresh of year he was also POY. Only guy to get 4 POY awards in NCAA history. It will likely never be done again.

#229571

By TIMSCAR20 - January 29th, 2009, 5:49 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 5:49 pm #229571

Ok I checked it out...LB was second team all conference the year he won frosh o Year. Dunkin did win both in 1990. Holcome Faye wasn't all anything his freshman year. Just fresh of year and obviously freshman team.

#229597

By vabigpoppa - January 29th, 2009, 8:32 pm

- January 29th, 2009, 8:32 pm #229597

SCAR wrote:I believe Whit HF and Blair were 1st team all conf the same year they were freshmen of the year but I will have to check on that. Also the year Tony Dunkin from Coastal was fresh of year he was also POY. Only guy to get 4 POY awards in NCAA history. It will likely never be done again.

different sport but Martin Sayer is a 3 time Big South POY in men's tennis, going for his fourth this year