If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By alabama24
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comet wrote:
lbc-70s wrote:He then lied to Bill Roth, the radio announcer of Virginia Tech, saying that the assistant coach had forced him out.
That wasn't a lie. That whole deal with RD and the petition has to be one of the most unfortunate stories of Liberty athletics. It's a good thing few people know about it.
Jeff Meyer.
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By flameshaw
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Bigsouthking wrote:Off topic but basketball related.

If defense wins championships where is UVA?

Carry on? To win a tournament you have to have players do things that not normal, such as Trice making 3's. Evan Wessel makng 3's for the Shockers, Cardinals making shots vs N Iowa, etc etc..

You guys need to hire a coach before you end up with Meyer as the boss and RD as the assoc Head Coach again.
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By ATrain
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Bigsouthking wrote:Off topic but basketball related.

If defense wins championships where is UVA?

Carry on? To win a tournament you have to have players do things that not normal, such as Trice making 3's. Evan Wessel makng 3's for the Shockers, Cardinals making shots vs N Iowa, etc etc..

You guys need to hire a coach before you end up with Meyer as the boss and RD as the assoc Head Coach again.
Jeff Meyer...per PH, the full name must be included.
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By Purple Haize
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ATrain wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Off topic but basketball related.

If defense wins championships where is UVA?

Carry on? To win a tournament you have to have players do things that not normal, such as Trice making 3's. Evan Wessel makng 3's for the Shockers, Cardinals making shots vs N Iowa, etc etc..

You guys need to hire a coach before you end up with Meyer as the boss and RD as the assoc Head Coach again.
Jeff Meyer...per PH, the full name must be included.
Actually any mention requires a full Jeff Meyer even if included in the post.
I would make a Jeff Meyer rule and switch to Dale Gibson, but since there are reports that Meyer is actually interested/being considered for the job I don't think that is feasible
On a side note, I'm glad the veterans are helping police the rule! Study
By ATrain
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SuperJon wrote:
LUconn wrote:I don't know if meyer is the right guy for the job or not. He might be great. But what is it about LU basketball history that makes us keep looking for someone with a previous association with us? We're not UNC that seems to only be able to sift through the Dean coaching tree. We've made the tournament 3 times in decades of d1 eligibility. All 3 times as a happy-to-get-blown-out-by-20 seed. Perhaps, just maybe, the best Coach for the job hasn't had anything to do with being literally a bottom 300 program.
I don't disagree with most of this. The new coach doesn't have to have a tie to Liberty. With that said, Meyer has a resume that fits what we are looking for. He has had success here when the school had less money and stricter rules. I think it could be a good fit.

And it may be the only way to reverse the Curse of Randy Dunton.
Jeff Meyer. Full name must be cited.
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By Purple Haize
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flameshaw wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Off topic but basketball related.

If defense wins championships where is UVA?

Carry on? To win a tournament you have to have players do things that not normal, such as Trice making 3's. Evan Wessel makng 3's for the Shockers, Cardinals making shots vs N Iowa, etc etc..

You guys need to hire a coach before you end up with Meyer as the boss and RD as the assoc Head Coach again.
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Jeff Meyer
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By bluejacket
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R i wrote:Lutz - Allison, with a funky contract that names Jason head coach in 4 years.Thats my guess.
If we hire Lutz, there is no way that this happens.
By Neo
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bluejacket wrote:
R i wrote:Lutz - Allison, with a funky contract that names Jason head coach in 4 years.Thats my guess.
If we hire Lutz, there is no way that this happens.
Stick to football
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By bluejacket
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Neo wrote:
bluejacket wrote:
R i wrote:Lutz - Allison, with a funky contract that names Jason head coach in 4 years.Thats my guess.
If we hire Lutz, there is no way that this happens.
Stick to football
If we hire Lutz, there is no chance that he is going to put a clause in his contract that forces himself out in 4 years. He might come to Liberty and he might hire Allison. But he's also only 56.
By olldflame
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R i wrote:Lutz - Allison, with a funky contract that names Jason head coach in 4 years.Thats my guess.

The Petition. Its hard to appreciate the athlectic department we have now unless you know where we were just 20 some years ago.

If what Neo is stating about potential candidate not being hired because his "brand" of Christianity does not fit, Good for JB. However it puts the preasure on Lutz or future head coach to walk the line. Its possible we offer Lutz the job the week before the sweet16. I would guess we here something before Friday.
4 years from now Lutz will only be 60. We are looking seriously at at least one candidate who is already older than that. If he is winning, why would he retire that young? If he's losing, why would we want to promote his assistant?
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By Purple Haize
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Jeff Meyer brings on Allison as Coach In Waiting. SCAR returns for Community Relations/Outreach PA becomes MBB graphic designer
By belcherboy
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Sly Fox wrote:
Mlive.com wrote:Report: Michigan assistant Jeff Meyer in the mix for Liberty head coaching opening

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Michigan assistant basketball coach Jeff Meyer watches over warmups before the Wolverines' last home game of the 2014-15 regular season against Rutgers at Crisler Center on March 7, 2015. (Melanie Maxwell | The Ann Arbor News)

By Brendan F. Quinn | bquinn@mlive.com
on March 21, 2015 at 1:28 PM, updated March 21, 2015 at 1:55 PM


ANN ARBOR -- Jeff Meyer could possibly land back in a familiar position.

According to ESPN.com's Jeff Goodman, the Michigan assistant coach is "in the equation" for the vacant head coaching position at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, where Meyer previously served as head coach for 16 years.
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I'm a big Michigan fan (went to the title game a few years back in Atlanta), and was at Liberty in the mid 90's. I about crapped my pants when I read this yesterday.

Back in the late 90's, I was part of the crowd yelling "Fire Meyer". When looking back, Meyer wasn't that bad. Yeah, he seemed to do a poor job at developing talent, but he wasn't terrible by any means. I've watched him since he started working with Indiana, and now the past 7-8 years at Michigan. IMHO, I don't think Liberty could get anyone better to jump start their program again than Meyer. Basketball has changed BIG TIME since the mid 90's, and we now are in the era of "one and dones". IMO, this gives an advantage to the little guy conferences (Witcha States, Butlers, Gonzagas) because now they are bringing 7-8 Jr's and Sr's to play against a big conference team that is dominated by 18-19 yr old freshman.

Jeff Meyer is considered by many people to be in the top 25 of all assistant coaches in the NCAA. Here is an article I read recently that talked about him.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/8937

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Jeff Meyer has been coaching college basketball for over 30 years. In Meyer’s six years at Michigan he has served as the Wolverines recruiting coordinator and offensive coordinator. Meyer's tenure as a collegiate basketball coach has seen him instruct and mentor several professional basketball players, including Los Angeles Lakers guard Darius Morris (Michigan), New Orleans Pelicans guard Eric Gordon (Indiana), Boston Celtics forward D.J. White (Indiana) and Toronto Raptors forward Linas Kleiza (Missouri).
Last year Meyer helped land three top 100 ESPN recruits including five star forward Zak Irvin, and he has already landed another top 100 player from the class of 2014 in Cameron Chatman.
If Liberty stands a chance of really turning things around, they need a proven recruiter with a resume of developing NBA talent. Meyer has both, and has had been at his best the past 5 years at Michigan. If I'm Liberty, I pay as much as is necessary to get him back, even if he only stays 5-6 years. With his recruiting connections, he could easily turn Liberty into a top 3 BSC school, and probably tournament team in just a year or two. It doesn't take long in college basketball if you can get a few underrated 3* kids, and maybe a 4* kid to come to your team. I think Meyer could get those kids in his first real recruiting classes, especially now that Liberty has really changed it's facilities since Meyer left. Their facilities are really a plus now for recruiting IMO. I think Meyer has learned A LOT since leaving, and would be a GREAT guy to bring back to Lynchburg. Just my two cents.
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By Purple Haize
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But have YOU learned a lot. Or will you be yelling Fire Meyer if he doesnt turn it around as quickly as you think he should!"?
By comet
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belcherboy wrote:Just my two cents.
That's a heckuva two cents. Thanks for sharing. I was intrigued enough to wonder how Trey Burke played into Meyer's time at Michigan. Turns out one of his Liberty assistants from years ago pulled some strings. Interesting story from Rivals: https://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1496578
That summer, leading up to point guard Darius Morris' second season, the Wolverines began seriously considering adding another point guard to the 2011 class. That's when Meyer received a call from Rick Burby, who was an assistant on Meyer's staff at Liberty in the late 1980s.

Burby is now retired and lives in Columbus, Ohio, where he is still has a passion for the game. He knows the Burke family - and urged Meyer to give Burke's father, Benji, a call.
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By bballfan84
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If Liberty stands a chance of really turning things around, they need a proven recruiter with a resume of developing NBA talent. Meyer has both, and has had been at his best the past 5 years at Michigan. If I'm Liberty, I pay as much as is necessary to get him back, even if he only stays 5-6 years. With his recruiting connections, he could easily turn Liberty into a top 3 BSC school, and probably tournament team in just a year or two. It doesn't take long in college basketball if you can get a few underrated 3* kids, and maybe a 4* kid to come to your team. I think Meyer could get those kids in his first real recruiting classes, especially now that Liberty has really changed it's facilities since Meyer left. Their facilities are really a plus now for recruiting IMO. I think Meyer has learned A LOT since leaving, and would be a GREAT guy to bring back to Lynchburg. Just my two cents.
No way we are getteing a coach who has a resume of developing NBA talent...who do you think we are...we are a very LOW Major School..you would have to be prepared to spend millions to attract somebody like that..lets dominate the Big South first
By olldflame
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bballfan84 wrote:we are not getting a 4 star player..you guys have your heads in the clouds

We had a 4 star player on the team this year. Stars mean nothing. There are guys in the NBA who were 2 or 3 star players in HS.
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By flameshaw
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Top 3 schools in the BSC? Are you kidding me? Winning the conference 8 out of 10 years should be a given. I hope JB hires a coach with at least that much of an expectation/goal in mind. With our facilities, money and administrative support, it should be so easy BJ could do it.
By olldflame
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bluejacket wrote:
R i wrote:Lutz - Allison, with a funky contract that names Jason head coach in 4 years.Thats my guess.
If we hire Lutz, there is no way that this happens.
I really don't get the Lutz/Allison combination. They've never worked together, and as far as I know don't even know each other well. Barber may like the idea of Allison as an assistant, but I really don't think he's so in love with the guy that he is going to make hiring him a stipulation for a new HC. Actually, it's almost unheard of for an AD to be involved in selecting and hiring assistants at all. On the other hand, Allison both played and coached for Meyer. Combine that with Jeff having been out of the area so long and Jason's experience recruiting for VMI all those years would make him a great fit. In any case, making Allison some kind of "HC in waiting" makes no sense. Give him 5 more years or so as an assistant here and he still has no experience as a HC or high major assistant, so he would not meet Barber's criteria to be our Head Coach.
By Chippy
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olldflame wrote:
bballfan84 wrote:we are not getting a 4 star player..you guys have your heads in the clouds

We had a 4 star player on the team this year. Stars mean nothing. There are guys in the NBA who were 2 or 3 star players in HS.
He transferred in.
By youngflamer
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Purple Haize wrote:
comet wrote:
lbc-70s wrote:He then lied to Bill Roth, the radio announcer of Virginia Tech, saying that the assistant coach had forced him out.
That wasn't a lie. That whole deal with RD and the petition has to be one of the most unfortunate stories of Liberty athletics. It's a good thing few people know about it.
Jeff Meyer
Geez even the 'new guy' can follow the rules
By jimflamesfan
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If LU is really interested in Jason Allison then I'd rather we try and get Duggar Baucom from VMI and hopefully he could bring Jason as part of the set.

We'd have to change a couple of letters in his motto to make it LU friendly.

"Whole DANG team".
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