If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Chris Lang
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BJWilliams wrote:That may explain why VT "sucks eggs" this year and is in last place despite having the ACC Player of the Year
There are a laundry list of reasons why Tech sucks this year. I'm not to blame for this one. Ha.
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By Purple Haize
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Chris Lang wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:That may explain why VT "sucks eggs" this year and is in last place despite having the ACC Player of the Year
There are a laundry list of reasons why Tech sucks this year. I'm not to blame for this one. Ha.
You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better :D Mr Booming voice! Do you know how much grief that caused me? I blame that for our loss!
By Chris Lang
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Haha. You can't blame THAT one on me! I only covered the boys team, which also lost. And then I covered the first two games of the VT-GT baseball series last weekend, and GT won both. Went to Wake for hoops, and Tech beat GT in the third game.

Oh wait, maybe it is me.
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By Purple Haize
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Chris Lang wrote:Haha. You can't blame THAT one on me! I only covered the boys team, which also lost. And then I covered the first two games of the VT-GT baseball series last weekend, and GT won both. Went to Wake for hoops, and Tech beat GT in the third game.

Oh wait, maybe it is me.
Well we DID win the game you were at......
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By Kolzilla41
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And don't forget he's a Capitals fan so we could always tack that on too. I am going to start the twitter trend #IBlameLang.
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By BJWilliams
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Thanks to Bethune-Cookman and North Carolina A&T, we can pretty much bank on the MEAC champion ending up in Dayton (NSU probably would have had a shot at a 14 or 15 seed if they had won the tournament)
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By jbock13
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Did anyone see that Charlotte v. Richmond game? Biggest meltdown I've seen in a long time.
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By Purple Haize
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jbock13 wrote:Did anyone see that Charlotte v. Richmond game? Biggest meltdown I've seen in a long time.
Like cheese wiz in the microwave
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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:
jbock13 wrote:Did anyone see that Charlotte v. Richmond game? Biggest meltdown I've seen in a long time.
Like cheese wiz in the microwave
3 stupid plays within 1 second of each other. Richmond had the game and they give Charlotte 8 FT's in the final four seconds.
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By BJWilliams
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Reading the rule applied on the first tech (which started the sequence), it was properly applied (as Purple can attest or blwall if he still posted here) and its a shame that Richmond lose their composure like that
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By Purple Haize
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Not sure I would have gone so severe on the first foul. But the official under the basket had a good look at it and it appears the Richmond player just gave the Charlotte player a 2-handed push. I thought it was definitely a foul, and would trust that judgement. Except for the last foul. They kicked it. No two ways about it. If there had been maybe <.5 seconds left you give them that shooting foul.
As for the coach....he earned it that's for sure. I don't think the Technicals made a difference at that point because the game was in essence over. I guarantee I would have gotten a T in that same situation but probably not gotten tossed.
I'm 100% positive that the A-10 Supervisor is either on the phone or, if he was at the game, in the locker room 'discussing' how the situation was handled.
Finally, I guess that's an argument AGAINST fouling when you are up 3.

EDIT: upon watching the first foul for the 10th time I am wondering in the player said something to the official at which point its a no brainier.
DOUBLE EDIT: It appears that the officials said it was a dead ball foul which is an automatic T. IMO, if there had not been the 2 handed push at the end they would have been able to get away with a 'regular' personal foul.
By JK37
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PH, that's what I thought watching it, too. Looked like two-hand shove was iffy, and a normal foul was called. But upon opening his mouth, the Richmond player earned the T.

After that, seemed to me the procedures thereafter were followed correctly. Of course Charlotte chooses their shooter because it was a deadball technical foul. They get two shots (by player fo their choosing), plus the ball.

Then, Mooney just loses it. Were it not so late in a close ballgame, he probably would've gotten it sooner, Officials did everything they could to avoid it - which they're trained to do - but he gave them no choice.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote:PH, that's what I thought watching it, too. Looked like two-hand shove was iffy, and a normal foul was called. But upon opening his mouth, the Richmond player earned the T.

After that, seemed to me the procedures thereafter were followed correctly. Of course Charlotte chooses their shooter because it was a deadball technical foul. They get two shots (by player fo their choosing), plus the ball.

Then, Mooney just loses it. Were it not so late in a close ballgame, he probably would've gotten it sooner, Officials did everything they could to avoid it - which they're trained to do - but he gave them no choice.
He had a legitimate beef on the shooting call at the end. I'm sure I would have gotten rung up but not run off. You stomp on to the court you might as well just keep on going.
By JK37
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I understand protesting it (as a coach, sometimes you feel the need to protest even when you are aware in your heart of heart's that you're wrong), but I believe it was the right call. Charlotte player knew UR was fouling, he heaved toward the rim in a somewhat shooting manner. I don't like it, but it was the right call. UR player got to spot late and fouled late. UR player made the mistake, not the official.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote:I understand protesting it (as a coach, sometimes you feel the need to protest even when you are aware in your heart of heart's that you're wrong), but I believe it was the right call. Charlotte player knew UR was fouling, he heaved toward the rim in a somewhat shooting manner. I don't like it, but it was the right call. UR player got to spot late and fouled late. UR player made the mistake, not the official.
Watch the replay and look at 2 things. Look at #44 for Charlotte and look at the players eyes just before he leaves his feet. He was going to pass our until he heard the whistle. What's more likely? A pass with the lead or a half court heave with the lead? I didn't see the official signaling a 3 when the player went airborne.
I agree at that there were enough mistakes made by Richmond to lose the game without the craziness the last 5 seconds
By JK37
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I confess I haven't scrutinized the tape as deeply or as often as you. So, Im willing to concede it should've simply been a two-shot foul instead of three. Would've meant UR would be down three with a couple ticks left, so now Mooney being upset makes more sense.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote:I confess I haven't scrutinized the tape as deeply or as often as you. So, Im willing to concede it should've simply been a two-shot foul instead of three. Would've meant UR would be down three with a couple ticks left, so now Mooney being upset makes more sense.
I picked up #44 the first time I watched it. I picked up the ball handlers body movements the first time I watched. I didn't really bother with it again until I saw people defending that as the right call. It was the first one that was a cluster and the play I watched most.
If they just call a garden variety foul on that last play the double T and ejection don't happen.
By JK37
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True. But if I understand what I'm now hearing correctly, by rule ANY foul called in that circumstance (deadball, in this case, after a made FT) automatically MUST be called a technical foul. So now, I believe the officials pause between whistle and T signal was because here ognized that, by rule, is must be a technical.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote:True. But if I understand what I'm now hearing correctly, by rule ANY foul called in that circumstance (deadball, in this case, after a made FT) automatically MUST be called a technical foul. So now, I believe the officials pause between whistle and T signal was because here ognized that, by rule, is must be a technical.
Yep I agree. At least that was the explanation that was given. And you can see that Mooney didn't like it but understood it.
By lynchburgwildcats
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libertyfan4life wrote:
01LUGrad wrote:
TH Spangler wrote:http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men ... -it-win-it
So we're the "little school from Lynchburg," huh?

I don't think that this journalist did a bad job in terms of his coverage in the article above.

However, unfortunately some journalists [in terms of their coverage] will do a brutal job of covering Liberty. These days some journalists do sloppy research and fact finding. I can almost guarentee that we will see alot more of this into the Tournament. I remember in 2004 while watching the NCAA Tournament, when Liberty played St. Joe's in the First Round in Buffalo, NY the commentator's making comments about Liberty that were either unfactual or outdated. At one point in the game the commentator had made a comment to which my wife had said to me, "What school are they talking about?" They were really far off in some of the things they said.

Sadly, in the age of the internet and in the crunch for time, some want information quick and might not be as committed to the process of proper research; checking sources; or for the sake of journalistic integrity - ensuring the reliability of information. My background and professional job vocation is research).

On a side note, one thing that I thoroughly had enjoyed about reading the coverage by a guy like Chris Lang (Lynchburg News & Advance on Liberty) over the years is that he was accurate and had taken the time and commitment to tap into the Liberty community, university, personnel, and fanbase. He didn't get promoted to the Virginia Tech job by accident. He did not minced words while covering Liberty. He was tactful but also truthful.
Calling Rex Chapman a journalist is using the term "journalist" rather liberally.
By lynchburgwildcats
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jbock13 wrote:LIU Brooklyn is a pretty good team to be playing in Dayton. They should be switched with WKU. But my opinion doesn't really matter, haha.
LIU Brooklyn isn't as good as last year. They lost their best player, Julian Boyd who was the conference POY last year and an AP honorable mention All-American, to a season ending injury eight games into the season. I'm surprised they even won their conference after that. They won their first game without home against some scrub team but then lost six straight before apparently figuring out how to win without him. Won a lot of games since then but since the injury haven't played anyone that would ever consistently be a threat to win a round of 64 tournament game.
By ballcoach15
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I think only at large teams should go to Dayton. No conference champion should have to play the play-in game. a champion earned their bid, the at large teams got in on a gift from selection committee.
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