[Bigsouthking]

which moutain, brokeback, liberty, or black moutain??

[jmdickens]

BSK. I'm not saying whether I agree or is agree with the RMK hire. I've always been a fan of bringing in a coach from a successful program at a Christian college or someone who is very outspoken in their faith. I think both of those situations would supply us with someone who buys into LU and would be around for awhile. I think the outspoken part is where TG fits in, but like. You said, we will see.
And trust me, I am far from nieve in the ways of The Mountain!

We should have tried to get Bennett from WSU before UVA did...well, long shot but he has always been outspoken about his faith.

[Purple Haize]

which moutain, brokeback, liberty, or black moutain??

I saw Witch Mountain ( the original)
Lived in Black Moutain
Never saw Brokeback Mtn ( but do know the old poster by that name)
And never Snowflexed on Liberty Mtn

[Bigsouthking]

I mis spelled mountain like 6 times in 1 thread... sorry Big South degree.

[Purple Haize]

I mis spelled mountain like 6 times in 1 thread... sorry Big South degree.

Just don't say Longwood

[JK37]

BTW let the conspiracy theories roll: oldflame is Kevin Keys.

False. But by suggesting that, I now know exactly who you are.

Be careful what you say. Keep friends close and enemies...well, you know the rest.

[Hold My Own]

Dont even give the nonsense 2 thoughts JK...it'll just drive you insane trying

[olldflame]

I see your smiley IMbach, but I'm actually scratching my own head. I totally refuted your allegation that RMK reduced Jenkin's role. As usual, you choose to ignore any facts that don't fit your agenda. Do you actually think when he recruited Curry and Sanders that Richie told BJ they were signed to take his job and his role would be reduced? If Jenkins felt slighted because the coach recruited some guards, that's his problem. RD left a pretty bare cupboard, and we needed the troops.

Are you serious? Alex Mclean, Anthony Smith, teeJay Bannister, BJ jenkins, Rell Porter , Tyler Baker (if not injured), and Dwight. That is a bare cupboard?

More revisionist history. Dwight was gone and Tyler didn't play. What was left were 3 very good players; Ace, Smitty and TeeJay along with BJ and journyman Rell Porter. 3 of those starters were seniors. Because the rest of the RD recruits on the bench (Russ, Armon, Soup, and Holland) were so bad, we were left with walkons Kyle Ohman, Tim Layer and and Garen Lafser as the top reserves until RMK recruit Jeremy Anderson got healthy. At the end of that year we were only playing 7 guys. Ohman turned out to be really good, but no thanks to RD for that. With the graduation of Ace, TeeJay and Rell, at the end of 08, the only RD recruits left who could play a lick were Smitty and BJ. Bare cupboard, thus requiring a 7 man recruiting class.

[Purple Haize]

Dont even give the nonsense 2 thoughts JK...it'll just drive you insane trying

Yep. Because apparently to them I work in the athletic department! I mean if they WANNA name me AD I'd be all for it. I'm an outside the Moutain candidate!

[Flamesfan4ever]

Back to the original subject at hand:

1) Why is ANY thread Locked? If a post contains obscenities , obviously that another story...Other than that.....Squashing free speech is not a good thing. ( This is a message board for crying out loud)

2) If someone wants to post every day how much they love JB or think he sucks....Why not let them post it. Democracy will triumph in the end.

3) If you dont want to read or respond to the post...DON'T.

THIS IS "LIBERTY" UNIVERSITY........NOT a place we want to limit FREEDOM !!!

WHAT ARE WE SO AFRAID OF ?..... II Tim 1:7

[LUconn]

Democracy will triumph? Fantastic

[jinxy]

It's amazing that people are still debating whether Dunton deserved more time. The man was mediocore at best. The cupboard was def. left empty, bannister had 1 year eligibility, dwight never fit in at all at liberty, from day one and it was obvious he wasn't going to stick around. Ohman was a walk-on, give me a break, that's not even worth addressing. Sure, to this point we aren't much better than when Dunton was here, but you don't just let mediocrity go on for a decade before you pull the plug.

The other thing that irritated me to no end about Dunton was the fact that he would hide what liberty was all about to a lot of recruits. Then when they got here it was a culture shock. Elijah Miller from Houston was a prime example, he was in my building sophomore year and he repeated countless times he had no idea this was a christian school or that it had rules when he got here. So he sat out a year and was kicked out at the end of the year. This happened countless times and i know at least 3 players that would attest to this.

Nobody hates Randy, i think he was a big LU guy that genuinely loved the school. That being said it was def. time to move on.

The results have been mediocore but many friends and alums i know are pleased that at least layer has cleaned up the program a bit. I'm sure there are still issues any time your dealing with D1 athletes but to me there's a clear difference. That's all i will post on this matter. It's simple, this is a make or break year for Layer i think.

[Flamesfan4ever]

See....There's a guy saying Randy Dunton sucks...Randy Dunton sucks....It's ok.....Shout it from the rooftops if you want to ! Post it 1000 times......WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT !!!

"SHOULD".....Being the key word....

Someone else can say " We Love Randy....We Love Randy......That's ok too....

We don't have to kill the thread because of it......

VOICE YOUR OPINIONS.....IT's a MESSAGE BOARD !!!

I WILL SAY ....THREAD KILLERS SUCK !!! THREAD KILLERS SUCK !!!

See how this works?

[jbock13]

And I will say this... your caps lock is on.

[BJWilliams]

Excuse me while I clean all of FF4E's spit off my face and attempt to regain my lost hearing from all the screaming...

[Flamesfan4ever]

Cap locks are commonly used to express emphasis since you can not hear voice inflection in written dialogue. Many times a word that is emphasized in a sentence dramatically changes the context of what is being said. What is the big deal about using cap locks, and why are they so forbidden?

This board reminds me of "Cool Hand Luke" when at somepoint in the movie he makes a statement about how many "rules" and "bosses" there are around here.

"Bosses" just waiting to pounce on someone for incorrectly spelling a word or using cap locks.....

There are many "posters" on this board that the sum total of their value on the board is to be the grammar police.......

Really.......

[Hold My Own]

Excuse me while I clean all of FF4E's spit off my face and attempt to regain my lost hearing from all the screaming...

Relax, he's just watering the bush's

[truthorconsequences]

It's amazing that people are still debating whether Dunton deserved more time. The man was mediocore at best. The cupboard was def. left empty, bannister had 1 year eligibility, dwight never fit in at all at liberty, from day one and it was obvious he wasn't going to stick around. Ohman was a walk-on, give me a break, that's not even worth addressing. Sure, to this point we aren't much better than when Dunton was here, but you don't just let mediocrity go on for a decade before you pull the plug.

The other thing that irritated me to no end about Dunton was the fact that he would hide what liberty was all about to a lot of recruits. Then when they got here it was a culture shock. Elijah Miller from Houston was a prime example, he was in my building sophomore year and he repeated countless times he had no idea this was a christian school or that it had rules when he got here. So he sat out a year and was kicked out at the end of the year. This happened countless times and i know at least 3 players that would attest to this.

Nobody hates Randy, i think he was a big LU guy that genuinely loved the school. That being said it was def. time to move on.

The results have been mediocore but many friends and alums i know are pleased that at least layer has cleaned up the program a bit. I'm sure there are still issues any time your dealing with D1 athletes but to me there's a clear difference. That's all i will post on this matter. It's simple, this is a make or break year for Layer i think.

You and old flame are hilarious. If RD was mediocre at 2,1,2,8,3 then what is 4,3,6,2,5?? First RD sold the value of LU if any body was ever a believer in what the students experience and did not hide the structure. I have heard him tell the story about Elijah as when he and an assistant left the home in Louisiana they thought they had signed the Apostle Paul and when he got to campus he act like something opposite. So instead of playing an athlete charged with a felony RD dismissed the player knowing it would be a blow to the season. And don't forget that RD had reopened the Nigerian pipeline with the signing of 7 ft Eroupe now playing for a top twenty Wichita St. program. Now WSU has RD's assistant and three Nigerians signed. But hey politics are funny...right now Santorum and Gingrich beat on Romney and he probably is a very decent human being. So write your versions of history I saw what he did and where we are today...not close. As I have said RD was heading us back to the NCAA tournament and was undercut by an AD who has no idea how to build his program.

[Purple Haize]

I don't normally read your drivle anymore but did have a couple of questions
How can the 7 footer playing for WSU be an RD recruit when he is a Junior? If he was a5th year senior that might work if you stretch it.
WSU lists only 1 Nigerian on their roster. Where are the others?
The former LU coach you reference is the Dir of Basketball ops which usually doesn't involve recruiting. Now it IS Gregg Marshalll
Finally, the AD stated that RD was not let go for only on the court performance. You might want to address that....or not.

[Bigsouthking]

I should start a new thread to settle all this petty non sense on the history of LU hoops...mistakes, mistakes, mistakes!!!!

1. Firing Jeff Meyer
2. Hiring Mel Hankinson
3. Never having an AD to make decisions until JB was hired, basically a bunch of pansies with a title.
4. Not a great idea to bring RD back 2nd time, opened can of worms
5. Since they did bring RD back, he should have had extension after he won tournament, but that's his fault and no AD either at the time.
6. Bad hire in RMK, journey man, looking for job as soon as he was hired.
7. In 2 full decades 1992- 2012 LU has only appeared in 4 BS championship games. That's pathetic.
8. If LU is moving to a better league, Dale deserves some patience. But needs to better athletes if they join MAC, especially if they join Sun Belt or C- USA.

Nothing more to say until program consistenly beats someone's a**!

All that non sense about players RD left or didn't leave: who cares...it's been 5 years AD
( after Dunton)

[Purple Haize]

I should start a new thread to settle all this petty non sense on the history of LU hoops...mistakes, mistakes, mistakes!!!!

1. Firing Jeff Meyer
2. Hiring Mel Hankinson
3. Never having an AD to make decisions until JB was hired, basically a bunch of pansies with a title.
4. Not a great idea to bring RD back 2nd time, opened can of worms
5. Since they did bring RD back, he should have had extension after he won tournament, but that's his fault and no AD either at the time.
6. Bad hire in RMK, journey man, looking for job as soon as he was hired.
7. In 2 full decades 1992- 2012 LU has only appeared in 4 BS championship games. That's pathetic.
8. If LU is moving to a better league, Dale deserves some patience. But needs to better athletes if they join MAC, especially if they join Sun Belt or C- USA.

Nothing more to say until program consistenly beats someone's a**!

All that non sense about players RD left or didn't leave: who cares...it's been 5 years AD
( after Dunton)

I'll disagree some with #6 but agree with everything else

[Bigsouthking]

PH --

Look at RMK resume. He is retread.... How is that a good hire.? A guy that cannot win a New Mexico/ get an at large birth even at New Mexico and you expect him to win a stressful tournament... Your better than that PH.

[olldflame]

Ehimen Orupke, that 7 foot Nigerian ToC loves to refer to as a breakthrough recruit, didn't make it through the NCAA clearinghouse to play for Wichita State for 3 years. That's why he is still a Junior. When he finally qualified, he rode the pine last year, and this year he is playing 8 minutes/gm and averaging 1.3 points and 2.2 rebounds.

[Purple Haize]

PH --

Look at RMK resume. He is retread.... How is that a good hire.? A guy that cannot win a New Mexico/ get an at large birth even at New Mexico and you expect him to win a stressful tournament... Your better than that PH.

New Mexico had a lot of other issues. Similar to Kansas. I'm not saying it was a good or bad hire. I think 1 year followed by a move to the ACC makes it an 'Incomplete"

[Purple Haize]

Ehimen Orupke, that 7 foot Nigerian ToC loves to refer to as a breakthrough recruit, didn't make it through the NCAA clearinghouse to play for Wichita State for 3 years. That's why he is still a Junior. When he finally qualified, he rode the pine last year, and this year he is playing 8 minutes/gm and averaging 1.3 points and 2.2 rebounds.

So you are saying there was a good chance he wouldn't have graduated within the NCAA window?