If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By jbock13
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ToTheLeft wrote:I watched BYU-Hawaii at Grand Canyon U yesterday. Every single GCU fan on the camera-shown side was in PURPLE, their team color. (This is a DII school, btw.)

Seems like a lot of places get the message. Just not LU yet...
I saw this too! And I said the exact same thing to my father!
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By ToTheLeft
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Okay... here's my suggestion to the Boo Box.

Wear Pink. There's no other team we'll play with pink as a color, and it's sorta like red, just not. You'll stand out, and be a distraction.
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By aredd33
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Question: If the boo box tried to be more annoying...could they?
By Hold My Own
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TTL great idea....and they can say they simply ruined the shirt in the wash and it was red in a past life.
By TIMSCAR20
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SuperJon wrote:
SCAR wrote: How about:

Dale's Layer

I think it could work...Think about it. I'll take my credit on the air like I did for the Sparky idea LOL.
Doesn't translate to other sports. I don't like naming a student section after a person who could be gone at any time. We're supporters of the school, not just the coach. Whatever we name a fan section should be able to translate to all sports.
It works Michigan State. They didn't know at the time that their coach would stay forever. In fact Tom Izzo did flirt with the NBA. You can always come up with something creative at other team events. You can't worry about Universal appeal. The Universal part is everyone (well almost everyone) agreeing to wear red in the student section. Trust me if you had Dale's Layer in the Vines it would be a hit!
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By Purple Haize
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SuperJon wrote:
SCAR wrote: How about:

Dale's Layer

I think it could work...Think about it. I'll take my credit on the air like I did for the Sparky idea LOL.
Doesn't translate to other sports. I don't like naming a student section after a person who could be gone at any time. We're supporters of the school, not just the coach. Whatever we name a fan section should be able to translate to all sports.
Yeah, that doesn't work to well at Duke with the Cameron Crazies or Michigan St with the Izzone!
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By jbock13
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Purple Haize wrote:
Yeah, that doesn't work to well at Duke with the Cameron Crazies or Michigan St with the Izzone!
Well, at least we can all agree it's better than the Boo Box for God's sake... I seriously want to pinch myself and tell myself this is all a joke and that this really isn't happening and this group of people is just a whole joke but... afraid not. But they won't last.
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By Schfourteenteen
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Purple Haize wrote:
SuperJon wrote:
SCAR wrote: How about:

Dale's Layer

I think it could work...Think about it. I'll take my credit on the air like I did for the Sparky idea LOL.
Doesn't translate to other sports. I don't like naming a student section after a person who could be gone at any time. We're supporters of the school, not just the coach. Whatever we name a fan section should be able to translate to all sports.
Yeah, that doesn't work to well at Duke with the Cameron Crazies or Michigan St with the Izzone!
I don't know, but I'd imagine those names were marketed after more than two years of service.
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By jbock13
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Jkill617 wrote:First off, This is my first official post after lurking around here for about a year.

Anywho,
First thing my girlfriend noticed when arriving at the GWU game was "Are all those people in black Gardner Webb fans".

BLACK=FAIL
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By boobox
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Hey guys wow I went home for the weekend after I posted this thread and booom it blew up. Despite everyone ripping me to shreds and all I did was try to come on here politely and ask opinions I wasn't at the game on saturday and we wouldn't have had enough time to change everything that you guys were bringing to me. I do plan to change the shirt color from black to a school color so that will settle that dispute. For everyone saying that we do not start cheers and we are quiet I am sorry but thats just not true. Just for example we were the ones that looked up Dickeys girlfriends name (Rachel) and made it into a chant, but thats not the point the point is that we are honestly trying to do something that fires up everybody. I am sorry that it seems like we are being selfish but I feel like the point of having a set aside group is to show to a certain extent somewhat of a difference from the rest of the crowd. Anyway I am still open to suggestions and hope that we can talk about this without someone attacking anyone else. Btw SuperJon I never said that I did not like the LUnatics I always wanted to be a part of the LUnatics I just had little disputes with some people in the LUnatics sorry if I was misquoted or misunderstood but I loved what you guys did and was seriously taken back and upset that the LUnatics were no longer around this year. That is what started us thinking that we should start a group. So again if I came off rude I never meant to I want to start something that will last and get everyone fired up (not angry but excited for basketball).
By SuperJon
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Okay, I've tried not to make this a comparison to The LUnatics because nothing I said in that way could come off as any way other than egotistical. However, I'm tired of these guys being stupid so I'm throwing it out there.

ToTheLeft, TDDance, flamesfilmguy, TBGBG, BJ, BrysOn, JDub, sweetnahmah1, Th3rd, schfourteenteen, and all of the other LUnatics: this one goes out to you.

The LUnatics were the best student group in the Big South in 2007-2008 and 2008-2009 before we started to graduate and/or take jobs that made it to where our core was split up. There was no doubt about it. We weren't the best team but we had the best group of fans. At our height, other teams' fans and students were asking, "Are The LUnatics coming to tonight's game?" (see: High Point 2009) Other student sections tried to replicate what we did and tried to be as good as us (see: UNCA in the 2008 Big South Championship game). We went into other team's stadiums/arenas and took over (see: W&M 2007, VMI 2009, UNCA 2008, CCU 2008, GWU 2007, etc). Coaches from other teams said they hated coming to play at Liberty because of us. We single handedly caused a player to take a crappy shot near the end of the shot clock and another to get a technical foul in the Niagra game in 2008 that ended up winning us the game.

We had an article written about us in the Liberty Journal that was going to be solely about The LUnatics until Athletics asked that the Student Flames Club be included as well. I was called by Becki Falwell and asked to come to a meeting about the Red Hot campaign that included top representatives from Athletics, Alumni, and Marketing. We had a story on us in the yearbook. Coach McKay personally bought us t-shirts two seasons in a row. We even helped get classes cancelled for people who travelled to a Big South tournament game.

And how did we do that?

We worked with athletics.

We did what the people above our heads asked us to do.

We partnered with them to lead in the way that they wanted things to be led.

They asked us to wear red and we made sure everyone was in red. If you weren't in red, you were in the back. They asked us not to say the word "suck" and we made sure not to say the word "suck." They asked us to help with a promotion and we helped with the promotion.

When you get the administration of Liberty on your side, things go much better and you're much more effective.

Some of our guys hated the people that ran athletics. For a long time, I was on the bad side of some of the key athletics officials because, like you, I thought I had to be different and do it my own way for people to notice. Once we all realized it was stupid to fight against a machine so powerful as the athletics administration and the administration in general, we started to thrive. We took off completely. We went through the proper channels to do things the write way and almost overnight we went from a group of 6-7 in my living room to a group of 60+ in The Vines.

Before it all ended, we were on the good side of Athletics, the football program, and the basketball program to the point that we rarely ever paid for tickets. From 2007 to 2009, the only time I ever paid for a ticket was at W&M for football and in the Big South Tournament for basketball. None of us did.

On the Thursday before the JMU football game in 2009, Coach Rocco walked up to me and said, "I've got a little surprise for you and your LUnatic friends on Saturday night." Coach Dunton used to buy our dinner after games. McKay gave us shirts and filmed videos with us.

If wearing red to games is good enough for Jerry and Becki Falwell then it should be good enough for a group of kids wanting to lead the chants and cheers.

The LUnatics came before you and reach higher heights while cheering on a team that's not as good as this year's and it's because we did things the right way.

You guys have the potential to be even better than we were.

The only way to do that is by doing things the way that they're supposed to be done.
By SuperJon
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boobox wrote:Btw SuperJon I never said that I did not like the LUnatics I always wanted to be a part of the LUnatics I just had little disputes with some people in the LUnatics sorry if I was misquoted or misunderstood but I loved what you guys did and was seriously taken back and upset that the LUnatics were no longer around this year.
Dude, we had little disputes within ourselves at least once a week. We all seriously hated each other at one point or another. That shouldn't have stopped you from joining. You could've been the person to keep it from dying.
By boobox
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SuperJon I agree with you 100 percent and we are trying at least I am... Me and my friend have a meeting with Kevin Keys on Tuesday we plan on working with LU to develop something great. I came here seeking support and Ideas not ridicule and mockery. I know most people here were involved with LUnatics and like i said before I respected you guys.
By WinterIsComing
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I'm ok with us being "Back in Black" as long as we play some AC/DC to accompany it! Besides, a unified dorm in black alone nearly doubles our attendance at some games (exaggeration intended). I would prefer red, but black and blue (yes I am a genius in my spare time), or white is fine too. The only thing I care about is the turnstiles...oh and winning. Winning is good too!
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By Schfourteenteen
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boobox wrote:I just had little disputes with some people in the LUnatics
You certainly weren't the only one. Actually, we probably fought amongst ourselves more than anyone else. It certainly kept things interesting.
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By ToTheLeft
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Ritchie bought us pizza. Don't forget that!
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By jbock13
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If I might add, this is an arguable opinion but isn't jeering a guy with his girlfriend a bit too personal? I mean it isn't the worst thing but I wouldn't feel too comfortable with that.
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By flamesfilmguy
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Schfourteenteen wrote:
boobox wrote:I just had little disputes with some people in the LUnatics
You certainly weren't the only one. Actually, we probably fought amongst ourselves more than anyone else. It certainly kept things interesting.
yea it was more fun that way. see video from UNCA trip more specifically argument over the pronunciation of appalachian :lol:
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By BJWilliams
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I gotta go with Jon on this one...probably the two groups on campus I enjoyed being a part of the most in undergrad were the marching band and the LUnatics...in the latter part of its existence I spent more than a few games right down on the front with them...yeah I wasnt right in the middle with the crazy guys like TBGBG, SJ, BrysOn and JDUB but I felt like I was part of something when I was with the LUnatics...and you guys have a chance to really be something special too but you gotta do it the right way, just like SJ said.
By WinterIsComing
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As a former Lunatic, I'm over it. Wished it had stayed together 'cause after graduating in Fall 0f 08' (class of '09), I still live in the area, but hey, this whole BooBox thing falls in the "Better Something than Nothing" category for me.
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By Schfourteenteen
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jbock13 wrote:If I might add, this is an arguable opinion but isn't jeering a guy with his girlfriend a bit too personal? I mean it isn't the worst thing but I wouldn't feel too comfortable with that.
Once you get her to sign a poster of her, you get used to it.
By SuperJon
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boobox wrote:SuperJon I agree with you 100 percent and we are trying at least I am... Me and my friend have a meeting with Kevin Keys on Tuesday we plan on working with LU to develop something great. I came here seeking support and Ideas not ridicule and mockery. I know most people here were involved with LUnatics and like i said before I respected you guys.
I just want you to keep doing what you're doing but stop trying to rebel against the administration and wear red.

I've gotten into e-fights way longer (and much meaner) than this one about people trying to do something different and not wearing red.

Also, if I know anything about Kevin and the people up in Hancock, they're going to ask you to wear red. If you can argue against Kevin Keys and win then you're a god in the realm of arguing because I've yet to meet someone who could do that.
By boobox
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Well I apologize I let personal disputes get in the way of something I regret not doing now... anyway I would like to know suggestions (other than shirt colors) that would be important for us to talk to Kevin Keys about on tuesday and just for us to consider and realize as a group.

and jbock I dont think that chanting the name of his girlfriend to him is inappropriate at all... personal yes that is his personal life but he made it public on facebook so that is something that he chose to do. We said nothing inappropriate at all to disrespect her at all. It may have gotten to him but thats what was desired anyway.
By SuperJon
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ToTheLeft wrote:Ritchie bought us pizza. Don't forget that!
And it was dang good pizza.
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