If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By jcmanson
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I wouldn’t say Jesse is a 3 pt threat. He didn’t shoot it very well this year, and we only lose one 3 pt shooter this year. If Jeremy and Carter come back healthy that will give us at least 2 more 3 pt shooters that are better than Jesse. I never foresee him as being a 3 pt threat on our team, we just have too many other weapons there.

I think oldflame hit it right on the head as far as our keys to dethrone RU:

1. We have to be able to put 5 guys on the floor who are all scoring threats, and

2. we have to be able to defend the post.

I think #1 will be easy with Jesse, Seth, Kyle, Anderson, Carter, Minaya, and Baker all scoring threats. #2 will be, IMO, the deciding factor for us, and with Carter and Joel hopefully we can get that done.
By olldflame
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TDDance234 wrote:
vabigpoppa wrote:
the loss of kenny thomas will hurt.....but amir and mceachin have shown they are capable of shooting the 3. We also have 2 incoming freshmen (Evan Faulkner and Michael

I don't know why but it sure feels like Amir has been around forever.
I feel the same way. Him and James Harris of CCU. Harris redshirted a year though. Amir has only been there at RU for 3 years, but I guess it seems longer because he started and player major minutes from day 1.
By pcguy09
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Coach Lundy at HP was let go today
By olldflame
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pcguy09 wrote:Coach Lundy at HP was let go today
Yeah, we've got a thread on it in the non-LU sports forum.

So now maybe HPU will finish ahead of VMI.
By Hold My Own
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olldflame wrote:
pcguy09 wrote:Coach Lundy at HP was let go today
Yeah, we've got a thread on it in the non-LU sports forum.

So now maybe HPU will finish ahead of VMI.

Is AZ coming back????? To be honest Lundy should have been giving him half his check to him ever since he walked in the door...b/c thats the only reason he stuck as long as he did
By olldflame
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Who knows? Maybe AZ could coach them. Something tells me he has a little more basketball to play overseas first though. My comment about them finishing ahead of VMI now was strictly an "addition by subtraction" thing.
By Hold My Own
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No, I know what you mean...a lot of people think Lundy held them back and they do have more young talent so it's a safe opinion
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By g-webb1994
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OK, I'll play opposite here, I remember what Lundy did at Queens in Charlotte at the D-2 level with severely limited resources. I think he can coach, maybe just not at D-1 level. I think he'll end up at a D-2 in the Carolinas somewhere.
By paradox
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Radford loses by nearly 50 to UNC in the tourney, and UNC is still without the services Ty Lawson. UNC has been struggling with him out of the line-up, and will continue to do so against quality teams.

Radford as frontrunner for next year seems like quite a stretch to me.
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By jcmanson
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paradox wrote:Radford loses by nearly 50 to UNC in the tourney, and UNC is still without the services Ty Lawson. UNC has been struggling with him out of the line-up, and will continue to do so against quality teams.

Radford as frontrunner for next year seems like quite a stretch to me.
By olldflame
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paradox wrote:Radford loses by nearly 50 to UNC in the tourney, and UNC is still without the services Ty Lawson. UNC has been struggling with him out of the line-up, and will continue to do so against quality teams.

Radford as frontrunner for next year seems like quite a stretch to me.
The problem is, who else can you say it would be? I think it is as much of a stretch to put LU in that role, and VMI is losing a lot. Radford will be a Senior dominated team, and that usually bodes well, but the fact is, as young as we were this year and as huge a size disadvantage as we had, we still came within a hair's breadth and a BS call of sweeping them. The size gap will be substantially narrowed next year, and we will be deeper and more experienced. LU is definately capable of winning the conference next year.
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By jcmanson
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jcmanson wrote:
paradox wrote:Radford loses by nearly 50 to UNC in the tourney, and UNC is still without the services Ty Lawson. UNC has been struggling with him out of the line-up, and will continue to do so against quality teams.

Radford as frontrunner for next year seems like quite a stretch to me.
Crap, what happened to my post? I forgot what I said. Something to the effect that Radford will still be the frontrunner going into the conference because they return most everyone.
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By kingaling42
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paradox wrote:Radford loses by nearly 50 to UNC in the tourney, and UNC is still without the services Ty Lawson. UNC has been struggling with him out of the line-up, and will continue to do so against quality teams.

Radford as frontrunner for next year seems like quite a stretch to me.
Really?? Who exactly is going to match up with their frontline next year?? Also- you realize that they are bringing in 3 really really good shooters next year, right?? Or are you just not fully aware of their recruiting and personnel packages right now?? Besides if we're being transitive in the score- UNC killed us this year right after we had started 2-0 in conference play-

UNC crushing RU doesn't mean anything looking towards conference next year since last I checked no team in the Big South has a Tyler Hansborough, Ed Davis, et al to throw at Big Art & Joey..
By olldflame
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I agree with kingaling that the RU-UNC score doesn't mean a lot. My belief that we can compete with Radford next year is based on what happened in our 2 head to head meetings on the basketball court this year. I believe both teams will be improved, but based on the theory that the greatest improvement usually comes between a player's Freshman and Sophomore year, I think we should be a lot better, plus we will be adding a lot more length and several scoring options. UNCA should be improved as well.
By paradox
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jcmanson wrote:
jcmanson wrote:
paradox wrote:Radford loses by nearly 50 to UNC in the tourney, and UNC is still without the services Ty Lawson. UNC has been struggling with him out of the line-up, and will continue to do so against quality teams.

Radford as frontrunner for next year seems like quite a stretch to me.
Crap, what happened to my post? I forgot what I said. Something to the effect that Radford will still be the frontrunner going into the conference because they return most everyone.


Aside from Amir Johnson, they are razer thin as far as gaurd depth goes. They can hardly be declared a definitive frontrunner in a gaurd oriented conference with only one known entity.

As far as returning most everyone goes, that's why we gave them an edge going into this past year. However, there are plenty of teams returning multiple startings heading into next year.

I'm not saying that they can't win the conference next year. I'm just saying that right now it appears to be as wide open, once again.
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By jcmanson
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I agree it's wide open, but the conference as a whole will be easier to predict next year than this year. Coming into this year, we didn't have a clue what most of the freshman were going to be like. RU will be the preseason #1, with LU, UNCA, & WU as the other 3 who I see as having a legit shot at the title.
By paradox
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We can probably all agree that RU, LU, and UNCA appear to be the most competitive heading into next year. I'm sure that there will be a surprise or two, though.


Also, Davidson & Charelston dominated the Southern this year, and yet, Chattanooga won a few games in the conference tourney and snuck past them. Are they the best in the Southern? No. But, these things happen.
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By g-webb1994
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Latest rumbling from Boiling Springs has G-W considering moving the Moore kid to point, while McNair gets his feet wet.

Radford embarrassed the conference yesterday. If you can't match up with their height, then just play physical with them and they'll quit. If Lawson had played UNC would have beat them by 70.

Going to be interesting to see who HP hires to replace Lundy, I read over on their board where they said Dave Odom was on their campus recently. I'd like (well not really) for them to give Dale Layer a look. Real class act.
By markymark550
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g-webb1994 wrote:Going to be interesting to see who HP hires to replace Lundy, I read over on their board where they said Dave Odom was on their campus recently. I'd like (well not really) for them to give Dale Layer a look. Real class act.
I think if Odom wanted to come out of retirement, he'd try to lobby himself for the UVa job. While at South Carolina, he flirted with that job a couple of times. Odom used to be very good friends with the UVa athletics director (not sure if UVa still has that same guy or not). However, I think his last couple of years at South Carolina have shown that retirement really is the best thing for him.
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By kingaling42
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markymark550 wrote:
g-webb1994 wrote:Going to be interesting to see who HP hires to replace Lundy, I read over on their board where they said Dave Odom was on their campus recently. I'd like (well not really) for them to give Dale Layer a look. Real class act.
I think if Odom wanted to come out of retirement, he'd try to lobby himself for the UVa job. While at South Carolina, he flirted with that job a couple of times. Odom used to be very good friends with the UVa athletics director (not sure if UVa still has that same guy or not). However, I think his last couple of years at South Carolina have shown that retirement really is the best thing for him.
Possible.. but one of the main reasons Odom never pursued the UVa job is because his son coaches at V Tech (used to be a UNCA assistant as well...)- HP would be interesting- HP likes to spend money- BIG TIME!! I'd go just for the free ice cream truck that drives around during the day.. Any school that has a "Director of WOW" can't be ruled out for a big move...
By markymark550
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At one point after Gillen got fired, it was all but announced that Odom was UVa's next coach. Then he backed out and returned to South Carolina...I had forgotten he didn't go because his son was at VT.

Anyways, sure let Davey O go to HPU. With how he coached/recruited towards the end of his tenure here in Columbia, it would assure that not much would change for HPU. That would be a win for the rest of the conference...
By LUconn
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g-webb1994 wrote:Latest rumbling from Boiling Springs has G-W considering moving the Moore kid to point, while McNair gets his feet wet.

Radford embarrassed the conference yesterday. If you can't match up with their height, then just play physical with them and they'll quit. If Lawson had played UNC would have beat them by 70.

Going to be interesting to see who HP hires to replace Lundy, I read over on their board where they said Dave Odom was on their campus recently. I'd like (well not really) for them to give Dale Layer a look. Real class act.

That would be horrible for us if they hired Dale Layer.
By paradox
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They may have a shot at grabbing Tim Layer, but I seriously doubt that Dale will be in the mix.
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By ToTheLeft
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paradox wrote:They may have a shot at grabbing Tim Layer, but I seriously doubt that Dale will be in the mix.
Hater.
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By vabigpoppa
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paradox wrote:
jcmanson wrote:
jcmanson wrote:
Crap, what happened to my post? I forgot what I said. Something to the effect that Radford will still be the frontrunner going into the conference because they return most everyone.


Aside from Amir Johnson, they are razer thin as far as gaurd depth goes. They can hardly be declared a definitive frontrunner in a gaurd oriented conference with only one known entity.

As far as returning most everyone goes, that's why we gave them an edge going into this past year. However, there are plenty of teams returning multiple startings heading into next year.

I'm not saying that they can't win the conference next year. I'm just saying that right now it appears to be as wide open, once again.
you mention the big south is a guard oriented conference, implying teams must depend on strong guard play to succeed.....but radford wasnt close to a guard oriented team this year and won the reg season and the conf tourney....so how is that a negative again? this year i agree we were thin at guard, but next year will be a different story, we welcome back amir, chris mceachin, a healthy bleek austin,and cole wilder.....we also welcome incoming freshmen evan faulkner, blake smith, and michael wooten.

i dont mean to come off as an arrogant winthrop fan, but take your rose tinted glasses off my man, everyone knows RU is the definitive frontrunner for next year. but of course, frontrunner status may change once the season begins.
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