[Sly Fox]

But wasn't that Winthrop game in that year and a half?

[SuperJon]

Yes it was, and that was a great game. There were others that weren't though.

[coolhandluke]

okay so let me chime in....if you were not around for LB's freshman year your comments on him are irrelevant and incomplete...also for all the haters out there he did not sit around on a couch in charlotte...he went overseas and played shortly after graduation for a season in hungary and is now on the roster of a pro team in finland...best player in the history of LU maybe not but there is absolutely no reason to slander the man in this forum...and yes i knew him personally and i will take comments towards him as such as id imagine anyone else would about a person they would consider to be a friend

I was not saying he is a bad player. He is one of the best to ever play at LU, but not the best. He will be remember as the all time leading scorer. And yes, he had a me-first attitude because he was coached that way. It is unfortunate for him. I think if RD had taught him how to play the point, then he would probably be in the D league right now, if not the NBA. Blair was such a great scorer, but his height is what caused him to miss out on the NBA.

As for my comment on him sitting on his couch in Charlotte. I know that he spent a little time at home trying to make the Bobcats practice squad. I don't know how long he did that, but I know he spent some time there. And he didn't make it. But that's great if he is playing overseas. Like I said, if he had learned to play to point and become an excellent of a passer as he was a scorer, then he'd be in the NBA right now instead of playing overseas.

[jcmanson]

I find it funny too...this kid was one of the most fun guys to ever watch play, and of all people EVERYONE at LU should embrace the fact that he was a flame and a #1 in all time scoring in the BSC at one time...

+1

I hate to see any player for our school getting dogged on his own message board much less a great player.

[Stevev]

If I had to speculate on who would transfer out of here it would be Jeremy Anderson. He is as good an outside shooter as I have ever seem here but having a year off due to injury he might get left in the dust from this years freshmen class if they continue to perform well. I don't think that he was recruited by Coach McKay so he may end up transferring elsewhere just to utilize his talents to the fullest and get the most playing time.

[Sly Fox]

I hear you, Steve. But again I'd rather we not do this type of speculation. I hope Jeremy stays a sharpshooter in Flames gear until the day he graduates.

[coolhandluke]

that's another thing I have thought. But would Jeremy have to transfer next semester to be eligible to play next season or can he just wait till this summer to transfer?

[treyjman24]

i know where just throwing out speculations but i would hate to lose Jeremy, i've watched him practice in the very beginning of the year and man was he an encouraging person! AMAZING team player! hope are boys get healthy cause they would all bring great dept to our team.

[coolhandluke]

I find it funny too...this kid was one of the most fun guys to ever watch play, and of all people EVERYONE at LU should embrace the fact that he was a flame and a #1 in all time scoring in the BSC at one time...

+1

I hate to see any player for our school getting dogged on his own message board much less a great player.

I'm not dogging him, I'm just saying that he is not the greatest player of all time at Liberty. He is probably the greatest talent to ever play at Liberty (until this year that is!) but I would say that a great player is a team player that helped his team win a championship, and Larry was just not a team player. Yes he was on a championship team his freshman year, but I don't think he would have won that championship without all of the good seniors and Leo Lightbourne. He didn't win another Championship in his next three years, and I think its because he became the star player and we just didn't really have anyone else to go to his sophomore and junior year. His senior year we should have won, but he was so used to having to carry the team that he still carried them. With Alex, D Brew, Smitty, and Blair... we had a team that really SHOULD have won the Big South.

We didn't win because Blair was a me first player. And that is not his fault, like I have said before. RD wanted him to play that way. It's unfortunate that it turned out that way. So in no way am I "dogging" Larry. He was great, just not the greatest player of all time.

[olldflame]

Getting back to the OP and the idea of keeping a core group of players together......... If you think about it, there was significant attrition from this group of newcomers before they went to their first class. Remember our original group of signees?

http://www.flamefans.com/forums/viewtop ... 08+signees

2 never made it here, but were replaced, and I think most of us agree that we "upgraded"

Looking at the direction the program is going, I'm feeling pretty confident that if and when any others from this group leave, it will be in the best interest of both the player and the team.

[Stevev]

I can definately see where getting Jesse Sanders and Bill Weaver would be a significant upgrade to Mike Lewis and the other JUCO player. Whatever happened to those guys anyway? Did they de-committ and go elsewhere?

[BJWilliams]

Sammy Jackson is now at Texas A&M-Commerce averaging just under 10 ppg. Im not sure about the other guy because nothing Ive found shows him getting out of his LoI

[DeathCab4LU]

If I had to speculate on who would transfer out of here it would be Jeremy Anderson. He is as good an outside shooter as I have ever seem here but having a year off due to injury he might get left in the dust from this years freshmen class if they continue to perform well. I don't think that he was recruited by Coach McKay so he may end up transferring elsewhere just to utilize his talents to the fullest and get the most playing time.

I thought Jeremy came here because he was recruited by McKay a New Mexico and when he got let go and came to Liberty so did Jeremy

[olldflame]

If I had to speculate on who would transfer out of here it would be Jeremy Anderson. He is as good an outside shooter as I have ever seem here but having a year off due to injury he might get left in the dust from this years freshmen class if they continue to perform well. I don't think that he was recruited by Coach McKay so he may end up transferring elsewhere just to utilize his talents to the fullest and get the most playing time.

I thought Jeremy came here because he was recruited by McKay a New Mexico and when he got let go and came to Liberty so did Jeremy

Jeremy signed after McKay was named coach, but he had been previously recruited by RD. I don't think Richie was after him while at New Mexico.

[DeathCab4LU]

Jeremy signed after McKay was named coach, but he had been previously recruited by RD. I don't think Richie was after him while at New Mexico.

oh ok I thought he was but u prob no better....thanks for the lookin out

[olldflame]

Bottom line is Jeremy signed to play for McKay, unlike Nate Campbell, who was an RD recruit all the way.

[DeathCab4LU]

Yea I wasn't tryin to start anything lol

[SuperJon]

Isn't Jeremy a captain for this year's squad? I don't see him leaving.

[DeathCab4LU]

Isn't Jeremy a captain for this year's squad? I don't see him leaving.

Yea I don't see him leaving either

[TIMSCAR20]

I think LB gets a bad rap too. He was a spectacular player for 4 years and yes he did look for his shot a lot the last 2 seasons. He was in a tough situation though with the team trying to find its way after Dees leaving. Dees transferring helped Larry cement his legacy individually but it hurt it as a team. I thought those guys would have been great together as Juniors and Seniors but no way LB would have been able to take that many shots with Dees in the program. It is a shame they couldn't get along...I also want to say that Dees was the go to guy at the end of games many times not Blair. They both were dynamite players....Brew was one of the most talented players to ever put a Liberty Uniform on and he was very self LESS. He could have taken over games but he deferred to Larry because it was his team. Luke. LB trying to make the Bobcats in the summer is actually making the case that he is an extremely talented player. Borderline NBA players make tons of money elsewhere. See Julius Nwoso. And yes Larry has played pro ball from the moment he left Liberty pretty much and is doing quite well....As for transferring, I think BJ and Dees were both bad transfers. BJ would have played with this group and I think he would have started. There is no way on this earth he transferred because he was afraid of incoming freshmen! That is silly. Unless Lebron James was coming in, most good players don't concern themselves with who is recruited. I think it was a bad transfer because this group is going to be special and he could have been a part of it. Dees was a bad transfer because he was a 1st team all league player. Why leave? Oh well. All water under the bridge. I don't see anyone leaving this team though. Its pretty cool to see my boy James Spencer getting mentioned on flamefans.com. I am glad he is getting some quality minutes. Reminds me of another walkon from back in the day that slowly took advantage of playing time and ended up getting a scholarship and becoming a team captain. No I am not talking about Kyle Ohman either.

[Sly Fox]

[whmatthews]

My four years at LU were Larry's four years at LU, and I probably missed a total of 3 home games as a student (excluding games at home over Christmas breaks). My junior season when we were horrible and just barely made it into the conference tournament, the only reason to come to a game was to see Larry play. He took some shots during his time that left you scratching your head, but a lot of the times when he took those shots he had no business taking he made them. And, you can say this about him - he stayed four years and graduated. Sure, it helped that he was the superstar for RD, but during that strech of time at LU, there were a lot of players coming and going.

[treyjman24]

what years was dutton Liberty's coach?

[olldflame]

what years was dutton Liberty's coach?

Dunton was head coach for 5 years, from 2002 through the end of the 06-07 season, but his history at LU goes way back. He was Jeff Meyer's top assistant for several years, and when Meyer stepped down in 97, he was interum head coach for a year, but was passed over for Mel Hankinson when it came time to make a permenant hire. After 4 years of Hanky, in a move of sheer creative genius, it was decided RD was the man for the job after all.

[SuperJon]