[SuperJon]

If you'd freaking read the posts you'd see that no one is saying he will dominate the NCAA or dominate in Europe. They're saying he dominated the Big South. Every coach was scared of Larry Blair going off on them. Put your personal feelings aside for half a second and you'd see that.

[LUconn]

I cant find the other box scores right now, but 5 on Duke? 5 pts?!

Hey basketball wizard, that was his 4th NCAA game ever.

got it... and LUconn, I knew more about basketball when i was 8 than you will ever know, you really dont want to do this...

Dude, you don't even know me. I could be Jay Bilas using an alias for all you know. But I have shown on this board countless times that I don't really talk about things if I don't know about it. You, on the other hand, are trying to argue, that the all time scorer in Big South history, is actually not good, because he shot 41% over his career and only averaged 2.6 assists as a 2 guard. Good luck with that.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

but someone who is GOING TO DOMINATE could surely score more than 5
and It doesnt matter who you are and can tell by the way you talk and present your facts that you dont know anything about the game

[LUconn]

But I'm the only one presenting facts. You're basing someone's entire career off of their shooting percentage. Which is actually very average. Someone with your awesome basketball intellect would know that a stat like that would obviously look less impressive if say, they were the only scoring threat on the team therefore always defended closely, as he was in '06.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

However, he could make dang good money playing in Europe against people he could dominate.

hmmm Jon...
and Jon just because you think you know something or the way someone thinks doesnt mean that its true. I dont care what you think, but once again you try to put me on blast and couldnt be further from the truth. I presented facts but youre sooo content on always being right that you keep bringing up that i hate the guy personally. I dont HATE him, but if I did how can you bring that up when I am presenting facts and you know its true too. So save your time, stop trying be the all around sports guy when half the time you dont know what youre talking about, and dont try to call someone out when you dont know what youre talking about.

[SuperJon]

No, you just told me Larry was your least favorite player on the team. I don't know anything though.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

But I'm the only one presenting facts. You're basing someone's entire career off of their shooting percentage. Which is actually very average. Someone with your awesome basketball intellect would know that a stat like that would obviously look less impressive if say, they were the only scoring threat on the team therefore always defended closely, as he was in '06.

Im not presenting facts? Im pretty sure I listed shooting percentage. Its very average, SOME GAMES, average is as good as it gets In a terrible conference (minus winthrop this past year) and a decent team in that terrible conference. Normally it would be impressive but not in these situations. I realize the games i talked about were the big games, but 40% for his career like you said playing in the same conference onthis same team. and hes the only scoring threat because he is going to jack up bad shots and not pass the ball so a coach just says make him miss and we win, and thats what happens to us.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

No, you just told me Larry was your least favorite player on the team. I don't know anything though.

Thats True, but I presented the facts of why he isnt an amazing player. I hate Dirk, but Dirk is an amazing player and I can admit that.

[jcmanson]

I didn't see anyone call him amazing, we are just giving him his just respect, and would think you would be able to as well. Nobody is crowing him as the best ever, but he did put up good numbers. Sure he took alot of shots, and some bad, but he had to score in 06 because there was noone else on the team that could score 15+ per game.

[LUconn]

zomg! Dirk shoots 47%! He's so terrible! You're being unreasonable basing someone's entire body of work on one stat that you don't think is up to par. Which is actually par.

[JDUB]

the way i see it, he was a good player that took a lot of bad shots because he felt like he had too. and evidently the coach didn't tell him otherwise. no, he wasn't the greatest player in college bball, and as far as nationwide talent he is nothing special. i think he will do ok in europe though, probably not dominate, but make a decent living for himself

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

zomg! Dirk shoots 47%! He's so terrible! You're being unreasonable basing someone's entire body of work on one stat that you don't think is up to par. Which is actually par.

Dirk is the MVP and shoots 47% in the NBA!!!!! Not 40% for a decent team in a terrible college conference.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

the way i see it, he was a good player that took a lot of bad shots because he felt like he had too. and evidently the coach didn't tell him otherwise. no, he wasn't the greatest player in college bball, and as far as nationwide talent he is nothing special. i think he will do ok in europe though, probably not dominate, but make a decent living for himself

Like i said i hope he does amazing, but i think that he will do fine in Europe, he wont be amazing or dominate and I know you didnt say that, but I agree with you with what you said on that part.

[LUconn]

So I guess I'm not following what you're comparing him to. By your logic, Darko is one of the best in the world because he's shooting 58% in the NBA.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

no no no thats not what Im saying...


Jon was comparing my prefernce for the person to how much i like their ability.
I said it doesnt matter how i feel about them i will still give them their respect if they deserve it.
I hate Dirk, but he can play! very well!
Get it?

[SuperJon]

You don't like Blair so a great BSC player becomes average.

You have a crush on Tyler Baker and an average role player becomes great.

[thepostman]

through the 4 years I saw Larry Blair play there were a few (VERY FEW) times that he would play point...he did a good job I though and if given the chance I think he would've mastered the position...but he was terribly coached and even through that dominated the big south...if you look at any of the greats of the past 25 years something will be common with them, they came up and got some solid coaching from somewhere....Larry I do not believe has had that in his life....it is evident and some of the fundamentals he lacks....is that partly his fault??? yes....but its hard to develop with bad coaching....

and on a side not....TBGBG do you not like Larry as a person?? Though he may have not been the strongest Christian in the world, I always thought he was a good guy and never had any problem with him through the years he was here...my roommate sophomore year was good friends with him so I saw him around the room a lot and couldn't say a bad thing about him....from everything you say I think you just have some personal issues with the guy and seem to be unable to admit that he has any talent....

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

You don't like Blair so a great BSC player becomes average.

You have a crush on Tyler Baker and an average role player becomes great.

Or its a proven fact the the BS is the 3rd worst conference in the NCAA so anyone that does well in the conference, becomes AVERAGE... Honestly, Tyler isnt the greatest player on the conference or even on the team... I say those things as Jokes, obviously Im not serious, get over it

[thepostman]

So I guess I'm not following what you're comparing him to. By your logic, Darko is one of the best in the world because he's shooting 58% in the NBA.

hey man take it easy on Darko...he played very well this year with the Magic....and this coming season he will be in a much better situation there with a much better coach...

ok...onto the regular schedule hate fest

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

through the 4 years I saw Larry Blair play there were a few (VERY FEW) times that he would play point...he did a good job I though and if given the chance I think he would've mastered the position...but he was terribly coached and even through that dominated the big south...if you look at any of the greats of the past 25 years something will be common with them, they came up and got some solid coaching from somewhere....Larry I do not believe has had that in his life....it is evident and some of the fundamentals he lacks....is that partly his fault??? yes....but its hard to develop with bad coaching....

and on a side not....TBGBG do you not like Larry as a person?? Though he may have not been the strongest Christian in the world, I always thought he was a good guy and never had any problem with him through the years he was here...my roommate sophomore year was good friends with him so I saw him around the room a lot and couldn't say a bad thing about him....from everything you say I think you just have some personal issues with the guy and seem to be unable to admit that he has any talent....

Ok this is the last time I am going to say this... I hope he does well, I dont care about him as a person, and I will admit that he has talent, but its not a great talent that is going to do anything amazing, thats all

[JK37]

TBGBG...

Does this mean that you also agree that a coach who can't get it done in "the NCAA's third worst conference" is automatically no better than AVERAGE? Or, does your opinion of the conference's effect on talent change when we begin talking about someone you LIKE?

RD is unsuccessful in the BSC, and you believe it was a wrong move to fire him.
LB shoots 40% in the same conference, and he'll "never be more than average."

As a casual observer to this debate, I'm just pointing out that your argument against LB, partially based on the conference in which he competed, shoots your opinions of RD's greatness square in the foot.

[JK37]

BTW, since I did engage in this debate, I will say its my opinion that Larry could do very well for himself overseas. The pay is better, and beyond money, comparing him to other former-BSC guards like Holcombe-Fay proves that success overseas is attainable for a very good guard from the BSC, even if the conference alone supopsedly makes him "average" (TBGBG) at best.

[jmdickens]

[jmdickens]

TBGBG, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

vs Oklahoma 23 points
vs Seaton Hall 22 points
vs Florida 17 points

the year before
vs UVA 13 points
vs Kensucky 26 points
vs Miss St 26 points

as a soph
vs NCSU 22 points
vs Maryland 30 points

Freshman year
vs Duke 5 points
vs Valpo 20 points


Thank you for letting us know that your basketball knowledge is worthless.

hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha, my basketball knowledge is worthless?! hhahaahahahahahahahhahahahhaha

Oklahoma- 38% from the field
Buffalo- 35%
Seton Hall 1-7 from 3
Florida- I was there he didnt have that terrible of a game... oh wait 37% from the field... and he scored 17 against a GREAT NCAA team, but he will dominate overseas
UVA- 15%!!!!!
KY- 40%... eh Decent
Miss State? When have the contended for anything, but Sure, Blair had a good game there
Puerto Rico- 27%
Quarterfinals against winthrop in 06- 35%

I cant find the other box scores right now, but 5 on Duke? 5 pts?! This is a player thats going to Dominate... JJ started for Duke and cant get Legit minutes, but LB is going to DOMINATE... got it... and LUconn, I knew more about basketball when i was 8 than you will ever know, you really dont want to do this...

wow 5 points as a freshman against Duke


What about Kevin Durant...he only scored 10 points against a terrible LSU team at home this year while playing 43 minutes.....so, I guess he is average too http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncb/player ... erId=31579


I will call you out on your lack of basketball knowledge....

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

The Difference is as much as you may think that LSU wasnt good at the time they are still a very good team and Durant Still managed to get 11 rebounds and 4 blocks... and we are talking a double double as compared to 5 points