[ToTheLeft]

Joel VanderPol will score 20 a game... don't forget to factor that in...

[jcmanson]

Stop Lefty, please. I love this kid too much for you to do this to him

[Hold My Own]

like i said in the past, i just wish we could keep the same team together for more than a year or two and see what happens. It doesnt seem its' possible with the current coaching staff or the old staff. I dont know but I really dont see how were not significantly worse next year. Kyle is the only proven scorer returning and I think he will suffer without defenses keying on Anthony and Seth. Could be the rebuilding year that we expected this year

Minaya has proved he could score, so has Jeremy Anderson. Jesse has proven he can score when needed. That's four scorers.

Not to mention we'll have some guys coming in that can make an impact instantly...great news is, they dont HAVE to for us to win ball games like they did this year...next year they can just play their roles

[Hold My Own]

What world do you live in? Don't ever call me out again - you're the one that believed you could be the head football coach at Presby.

Be afraid BJ, be very afraid.

How did I miss this? That was ELITE Proto!

[ToTheLeft]

Stop Lefty, please. I love this kid too much for you to do this to him

[LUconn]

I just noticed in proto's rant against BJ he said Baker's rumored to be next. Uhhh, that would be the dagger in the rest of Baker's basketball career. He got here in 05-06. How could he possibly sit out another year and then have any eligibility left?

[Hold My Own]

I just noticed in proto's rant against BJ he said Baker's rumored to be next. Uhhh, that would be the dagger in the rest of Baker's basketball career. He got here in 05-06. How could he possibly sit out another year and then have any eligibility left?

Yeah...if baker's done, I think he'd call it a career

[ToTheLeft]

I just noticed in proto's rant against BJ he said Baker's rumored to be next. Uhhh, that would be the dagger in the rest of Baker's basketball career. He got here in 05-06. How could he possibly sit out another year and then have any eligibility left?

Yeah, he wouldn't be transferring... and honestly, it would be stupid to let him go. You let him go now, it hurts your grad rate, and loses you a scholly later. Just let him stay and graduate and then move on if you dont want him on the team...

[SuperJon]

I just noticed in proto's rant against BJ he said Baker's rumored to be next. Uhhh, that would be the dagger in the rest of Baker's basketball career. He got here in 05-06. How could he possibly sit out another year and then have any eligibility left?

Yeah, he wouldn't be transferring... and honestly, it would be stupid to let him go. You let him go now, it hurts your grad rate, and loses you a scholly later. Just let him stay and graduate and then move on if you dont want him on the team...

I don't know his academic standing, but he very well could be graduating this year. As in a month and a half from now. If that were the case, he could transfer to another Divison I school with a grad program and play right away.

[dompennix]

I just noticed in proto's rant against BJ he said Baker's rumored to be next. Uhhh, that would be the dagger in the rest of Baker's basketball career. He got here in 05-06. How could he possibly sit out another year and then have any eligibility left?

Yeah, he wouldn't be transferring... and honestly, it would be stupid to let him go. You let him go now, it hurts your grad rate, and loses you a scholly later. Just let him stay and graduate and then move on if you dont want him on the team...

Yeah we should keep him

[Hold My Own]

Again, if we let him go he'd just stay and finish school so I dont think that's going to be a determining factor...like someone I trust was saying, he'll never be a 10 and 10 guy...just wont happen...so I dont see it as that bad. If he threatened to quit school and work at Sam's then I'd rethink it...if not then it would be worth the minor hit in the APR

[prototype]

like i said in the past, i just wish we could keep the same team together for more than a year or two and see what happens. It doesnt seem its' possible with the current coaching staff or the old staff. I dont know but I really dont see how were not significantly worse next year. Kyle is the only proven scorer returning and I think he will suffer without defenses keying on Anthony and Seth. Could be the rebuilding year that we expected this year

Minaya has proved he could score, so has Jeremy Anderson. Jesse has proven he can score when needed. That's four scorers.

You can't use that argument Jon. Johnny, Tyler and Floyd all scored a bunch in High School, but are not big time scorers at this level. You just don't know - so Minaya still has to prove it. And those other guys haven't been the main threat - so you never know how they handle the pressure of having to be the man on a nightly basis.

The point is, we need a team to stick together. That's what was so exciting about this team. Thinking how good they were going to be in 4 years.

[prototype]

What world do you live in? Don't ever call me out again - you're the one that believed you could be the head football coach at Presby.

Be afraid BJ, be very afraid.

He shouldn't be afraid, after all he's got THE DUDE protecting him!!! The Dude? As opposed to what? The Chick?

[SuperJon]

like i said in the past, i just wish we could keep the same team together for more than a year or two and see what happens. It doesnt seem its' possible with the current coaching staff or the old staff. I dont know but I really dont see how were not significantly worse next year. Kyle is the only proven scorer returning and I think he will suffer without defenses keying on Anthony and Seth. Could be the rebuilding year that we expected this year

Minaya has proved he could score, so has Jeremy Anderson. Jesse has proven he can score when needed. That's four scorers.

You can't use that argument Jon. Johnny, Tyler and Floyd all scored a bunch in High School, but are not big time scorers at this level. You just don't know - so Minaya still has to prove it. And those other guys haven't been the main threat - so you never know how they handle the pressure of having to be the man on a nightly basis.

The point is, we need a team to stick together. That's what was so exciting about this team. Thinking how good they were going to be in 4 years.

I wasn't talking about high school. I was talking about college. Jeremy proved his freshman year in college he can score. Minaya proved his freshman year in college he could score. Jesse proved his freshman year in college he can score. Scoring in high school and scoring in college are two different things. We have three guys (plus Kyle) returning that have all proved they can score on a collegiate level.

[flamesbball84]

having three freshman from a heralded freshman class decide to transfer in a little over a week isn't going to look too well in the eyes of recruits, especially when one of them is seth curry...

[dompennix]

having three freshman from a heralded freshman class decide to transfer in a little over a week isn't going to look too well in the eyes of recruits, especially when one of them is seth curry...

Technically Johnny wasnt recruited with that class

[ToTheLeft]

having three freshman from a heralded freshman class decide to transfer in a little over a week isn't going to look too well in the eyes of recruits, especially when one of them is seth curry...

this is such a tired point... and it's not even that valid...

[Hold My Own]

I know...I need a FF break b/c I feel like I'm just on constant repeat


Yes, the argument can be made that losing Seth Curry hurts

but

The same argument can be made that the player that made him look so good is still here...and his brother is coming either this year or next....numbers support this fact


also


Another sales pitch can be made that we're losing almost half of our shots per game and we need someone to step up into that role...could that be you? What HS recruit wouldnt want to hear that...sure we know we have Perez, Min, Anderson and others that will take some of those....but you dont include that in the sale pitch of course!

[jinxy]

i dont know, I'm just saying we dont have a lot of proven commodities right now.

-I dont know how you can say Minaya was proven scorer, didnt he average like 4 or 5 points a game, Jesse was around 7 I'm guessing. I mean were losing 20 and 18 haha, None of us know we will just have to wait and see who we bring in and how the other guys mature over the summer. THey always say the biggest improvement comes between the freshman and sophomore year. That is the part that scares me about Seth ahah, he will have a extra year in there to develop. It's water under the bridge. We will know a lot more in a couple weeks once signing day has taken place.

[SuperJon]

i dont know, I'm just saying we dont have a lot of proven commodities right now.

-I dont know how you can say Minaya was proven scorer, didnt he average like 4 or 5 points a game, Jesse was around 7 I'm guessing. I mean were losing 20 and 18 haha, None of us know we will just have to wait and see who we bring in and how the other guys mature over the summer. THey always say the biggest improvement comes between the freshman and sophomore year. That is the part that scares me about Seth ahah, he will have a extra year in there to develop. It's water under the bridge. We will know a lot more in a couple weeks once signing day has taken place.

You say the biggest improvement comes between freshman and sophomore year and that it scares you about Seth because he has an extra year, yet you degrade Minaya for having that same year. I know that he didn't average very many points, but he had 4-5 games where he broke out and scored in double figures. With an entire year of development since then, it's a safe assumption to assume he's going to average 10-12 points a game. Jesse's role wasn't to score. You saw in games this year when no one else was scoring that Jesse could score. Look at our game against JMU. Seth was nowhere to be found so Jesse drove to the basket and got layups or foul shots or both. He had the highest shooting percentage of anyone who shot at least 100 shots. He was the third highest in free throw % for people who shot at least 50 free throws. He's got the ability, but that wasn't his role this year. Add Jeremy to that mix and that's three guys who we know can compliment Kyle next year before we even begin to rely on freshmen. If Seth would've stuck it out he would've seen that next year the junk defenses wouldn't work but he gave up and took his ball and went home.

[olldflame]

All I need to know about Minaya is that SCAR has said here that of the practices he saw, half the time he left feeling he was the best player on the floor. That would be including Seth and Anthony. Yeah, I know, it was PRACTICE!

[Rocketfan]

Minaya has proved he could score, so has Jeremy Anderson. Jesse has proven he can score when needed. That's four scorers.

You can't use that argument Jon. Johnny, Tyler and Floyd all scored a bunch in High School, but are not big time scorers at this level. You just don't know - so Minaya still has to prove it. And those other guys haven't been the main threat - so you never know how they handle the pressure of having to be the man on a nightly basis.

The point is, we need a team to stick together. That's what was so exciting about this team. Thinking how good they were going to be in 4 years.

I wasn't talking about high school. I was talking about college. Jeremy proved his freshman year in college he can score. Minaya proved his freshman year in college he could score. Jesse proved his freshman year in college he can score. Scoring in high school and scoring in college are two different things. We have three guys (plus Kyle) returning that have all proved they can score on a collegiate level.

Lets get our definitions on point....we have shooters NOT scorers. None of those guys have proved to me that they can drive the basket and can consistently create there own shot.

[ToTheLeft]

That's all that Jesse does, RF.... he is not a shooter at all. He ONLY creates his own shot.

Don't think Minaya is "just a shooter", either.

[prototype]

Come on guys - Minaya doesn't get a free pass. He needs to prove himself like everyone else. He averaged 3.7 points for a bad program last year. I hope he can come in and contribute.

[ToTheLeft]

Come on guys - Minaya doesn't get a free pass. He needs to prove himself like everyone else. He averaged 3.7 points for a bad program last year. I hope he can come in and contribute.

It's because we've seen him in practice. It's a consensus that he is going to be a good player.