[prototype]

Anyone who transfers - is not very smart at this point. The exposure Curry will produce will make this program very valuable and fun the next four years. I think that players like Austin will work real hard to get better. I don't think we will see people decide on their own to leave - I could see however, some players getting pushed out. McKay has a 4 year window with Curry to get this program to the next level and does a great job with the players - keeping them happy.

I have to agree with most on this board about BJ - I liked him, but he wouldn't have fit into this system and would have been sitting behind Curry, Sanders, Stephene and Kyle. I think that is why he left. I like Stephene a lot!! Reminds me of Chris Gaynor and i think a player that quick is hard to find. He is still young, and will make mistakes, but he only will get more confidence with more playing time and can be a great 6th man to change pace from Jesse.

I would like to set our recruiting level even higher though. This is the time we need to get the high level recruits that want exposure from having Curry here and televising all games. I'm hoping Lee is that good, but I'm thinking someone even bigger:)

[Rooster Cogburn]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...as a coach you're making your living off 18-21 year olds....good luck!


Who knows what they'll do

Yea that would be a job I would have to be dragged into. these kids ALL think they are the center of the universe but they can't all be. the coach spends eons telling them they have to play as a team. fortunately RMK seems to be doing well in this area at this point.

[LUMU11]

The thing that I think no one is truly taking into consideration is the fact that these kids all knew this was going to be a large freshman class, what with 7 guys in it? So they made the decision to come here knowing that everybody was going to have their role. I think that with all the hype everybody knew Seth was going to be a key component and everybody knew Brolin's athleticism was going to earn him minutes as well. Remember that Jesse and Weaver decommited from other schools to come here, knowing what we already had coming. That either speaks volumes about our staff's ability as salesmen or that these kids understand what's going on and they understand that although a couple guys may be out in front everybody's going to play a part in what could be a very good 4 years fro Liberty basketball. You never know what kind of kid your getting. Some of these kids may just feel that they are going to be a part of something special and they want to be around when that started, that happens. These guys all seem like guys that are invested in being here.

I, personally, wouldn't worry too much about guys transferring because of minutes. Weaver is starting to get his, he's providing athleticism and intelligence off the bench. The more "in the flow" and comfortable he gets the more he'll contribute. Stephene is a great compliment to Jesse and his minutes are very, very important. If he doesn't know that then he's ignorant. Spencer is getting minutes because he plays composed and has some experience. I think eventually Austin starts to take some of those minutes. RM was very high on him coming into the season, but he supposedly tanked a little going into the scrimmages and games and has had some confidence issues, while also trying to find his role. He was a very, very good HS player in AZ and now he's trying to figure out how to fill a role and that can be hard for a freshman. Now with Carter shelved he should get even more of an opportunity, but like a previous poster said you never know what your getting with 18-21 year old kids. Some guys have talent, but it takes them a year or so to really adapt. Other guys Curry, Sanders make the adjustment quicker. Even Brolin despite a lot of minutes hasn't really seemed to get it yet, but he's so dadgum athletic he can compensate.

[LUMU11]

Also, my two cents on the previous issue. Monceaux was a tool, i agree with that. Another undersized guard that came from a small school background and never figured out he wasn't going to be a superstar. I think the Brewington/Dees/Blair issue is two-fold. Larry, although a good player didn't neccesarily make the guys around him better, ala Seth. Seth gets his, but never really takes us away from what we're doing. Larry, at times, really played individual basketball. Anthony was perfect for him because he doesn't seem to be the guy that really wants to be out front. However, Brew, had success at Providence and wanted to be a guy, I think Dees had the talent to be a guy as well and knew him and Larry couldn't co-exist. Not to mention I thought at times it was obvious the RD really made it the Blair show. I agree with someone else, I think with a true floor leader and distributor, like a TJ on the Brew/Blair squad and that works out differently. Remember that when Brew became eligible RD had him running the point for a while, a 6-5 scoring wing on the point? Stupidity, it all unraveled from there b/c Brew was turning it over, trying to create for himself and that left Larry high and dry. Then Hubbard, just wasn't any good. It just all fell apart there.

[prototype]

I agree with everything, other then the Brew stuff. Dwight was probably a top 5 player, IMHO, to ever play at LU. He just didn't have a enough plays run his way. He was never truly given the opportunity to star here, because of Coaching decisions and Blair not wanting t give up the spotlight. Drew could get a shot anytime he wanted...

[LUMU11]

Oh proto, I completely agree. I'm an avid college basketball fan and a West Virginia go so I remember watching him when he was the BE Rookie of the Year. The guy could really play. You just said what I think I was trying to hint at, except you were much more clear. I was trying to say I thought he was mis-used and not put into the position to really succeed due to the Larry issue. Guy was a serious talent. That 30 plus game he had in the Vines against VMI was a show. He worked the short corner and the mid-range game like it was nobody's business. I was jacked up when he came here bc he was a big time talent.

[coolhandluke]

I agree with everything, other then the Brew stuff. Dwight was probably a top 5 player, IMHO, to ever play at LU. He just didn't have a enough plays run his way. He was never truly given the opportunity to star here, because of Coaching decisions and Blair not wanting t give up the spotlight. Drew could get a shot anytime he wanted...

Yeah... and look at what Blair and Brew are doing now? Who is still playing ball and who is sitting on their couch in Charlotte?

[thepostman]

larry is playing in europe too actually

[Schfourteenteen]

Yeah... and look at what Blair and Brew are doing now? Who is still playing ball and who is sitting on their couch in Charlotte?

Dell Curry?

[Hold My Own]

hahahaha nice

[jcmanson]

You are all haters. Larry Blair was the best player to ever play at Liberty.

[SuperJon]

If you think the stuff they're saying isn't true then you are definitely drinking the kool-aid. He was a great talent, but he was me-first the entire way.

[coolhandluke]

larry is playing in europe too actually

Yeah, I heard he has going to play there. But I know that he spent atleast two years just trying to make the Bobcats practice squad and living at home in Charlotte. I'm happy for him if he is playing there now. That means Ace, Larry, and D Brew are all playing pro ball. Good stuff....

[coolhandluke]

You are all haters. Larry Blair was the best player to ever play at Liberty.

I agree with Jon. He may have been the best overall talent to ever come to Liberty, but he is not the greatest player. The greatest player would be a guy who made the whole team better. Larry didn't do that, he was selfish and "Me first" like Jon said. I personally think D Brew is the best talent to come through Liberty since I've been here. Until this season that is...

I think we have two guys on this team that will play in the NBA one day.

[jcmanson]

I was joking hoping that TBGB would catch that post. It's a running joke we have.

I don't want to get into a debate here about LB, I believe differently about him than most people on here and that's fine. I've giving up trying to change anyone's mind.

I think he gets way too much grief than he deserves.

[Sly Fox]

I agree with manson. The level of abuse LB receives on this board is WAY over the top.

[DutchyNY]

okay so let me chime in....if you were not around for LB's freshman year your comments on him are irrelevant and incomplete...also for all the haters out there he did not sit around on a couch in charlotte...he went overseas and played shortly after graduation for a season in hungary and is now on the roster of a pro team in finland...best player in the history of LU maybe not but there is absolutely no reason to slander the man in this forum...and yes i knew him personally and i will take comments towards him as such as id imagine anyone else would about a person they would consider to be a friend

[thepostman]

If you think the stuff they're saying isn't true then you are definitely drinking the kool-aid. He was a great talent, but he was me-first the entire way.

he was a me first player..this is true...but that is how he was coached as well and the way the coaching staff wanted things to be...

a lot of things get said about blair...a lot of negative things...but he did what the coaches wanted...he was one of the best talents ever to play basketball for liberty...but he was never groomed to become a great player...which only hurt him in the long run...its too bad really

[SuperJon]

His junior year he had to play me-first because he was the only thing we had. The problem came in his senior year when we had talent and he still played that way, either by design from the coaches or because that's how he was.

[jinxy]

I cant say taht he was or wasnt the greatest player to ever play since I've only followed Liberty for about 7 years. I do think Dwight was the best talent I saw at LU so far. What would make me hesitant to say he is the greatest player at liberty is his lack of all around game. He was a great shooter, especially mid range J's. His penetration was average and defense was average. I do think better coaching would have helped his game considerably. I cant get that last play of his career out of my mind when Dunton apparently wouldnt let anyone else touch the ball on the inbound play. VMI had him doubled and there was no way they were going to let him beat them.

-I dont think anyone is slandering his name, it's an analysis of his overall game. He was a great player for LU, but I believe firmly that Seth is a much better all around player at this stage in his career than LB was. LB was a more polished shooter and obviously finished in the top 2 career in Big South scoring, he obviously could score the ball

[SuperJon]

And the reason people say stuff about Larry is because you remember what happened most recently. What happened most recently was his junior and senior seasons, not the freshman season where he led the team to the tournament or his sophomore season when things went well. He is also linked to his coach whether he likes it or not. Many people have strong opinions about his coach and that's the reason behind some of the negative things about him.

[thepostman]

talent was misused a lot...Larry is no exception

I don't want to turn this into THAT debate again

but I think Larry gets a bad rap...its hard to fault the guy when he is playing the way the staff wanted him to play...

[Hold My Own]

I find it funny too...this kid was one of the most fun guys to ever watch play, and of all people EVERYONE at LU should embrace the fact that he was a flame and a #1 in all time scoring in the BSC at one time...

[sweetnahmah1]

I loved watching him play

[SuperJon]

He was a great player, I just remember seeing a lot of shots where I'm just thinking, "Holy crap why the eff did you just shoot that?" Those stick out to me more than the great plays for one reason or another. I don't know why, I don't know if there's a legit reason, but that's how it is.

Also remember I can only base my opinions on a year and a half of his playing that I saw personally.