If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By LUnpretty11
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:popcorn anyone? This could get good... haha

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Did you transfer in from St. Marys School for blind kids? LOL Kyle has has complained and done his not so subtle looks (to players and officials) since day one when something doesn't go as he sees it.

Your right he hasn't looked into the crowd and said something, but i have witnessed him turn a cold shoulder to fans who actually compliment him in those first two rows.

The reason i said what i said is because he is a Senior and should know if you complain all game to the refs your not getting any calls, a Frosh( Gordon) can make mistakes because he hasn't been here what 5 years? I said all this stuff last year, he shouldn't be dribbling at all, he is a spot up shooter and a tough rebounder thats it. If he wants to be a leader he needs to encourage the young guys, but im not seeing any of that.

If a fan telling a player to stop complaining is rude thats funny, because thats exactly what the coach should be telling him....shut your mouth and go with it( besides were down 20 points, what purpose does it serve exactly).[/quote]

To answer your question: Yes, I did transfer from St. Mary's school for the blind, how did you know (creepy)?
Now, I'm pretty sure everything you have just said proves as to why you should NOT be considered a fan of LU.
1. Trying to rationalize your inexcusable comments during the game.
2. Completely and totally bashing a real fan.
3. Saying hurtful words. :roll:

Just because Kyle's play may deserve criticism, it doesn't matter who the player is, it should never happen at the event and especially during the middle of a game. Yes, Kyle :cry: wayyy too much. No disagreement there. I don't think telling a player that is he complaining is rude, but how you go about doing it. No player no matter how disrespectful to the refs or coaches should receive some of the verbal abuse that he has received. I'm not standing up for him or his attitude, I'm simply telling you and whoever else thinks it's okay to take cheap shots at our players who represent OUR school to quit. And like you said, we were down 20 points, so how exactly do your comments serve the team or player or crowd any good? Well I'll just answer that, they don't. It's an embarrassment to listen to. The last thing OUR team needs while they're struggling is the verbal shots that have been thrown out.
I'm not happy with the way anyone has played, and I'm not happy with how Kyle has acted out on the court. But I will never publicly ridicule my team during a contest to show my unhappiness. It's shallow, and lacks character.
By SuperJon
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If they are being openly disrespectful to officials or coaches while representing our school then yes, yes fans can tell them to stop acting like that. They represent us and what we stand for, and if they're not acting that way on the court, then people can tell them to stop acting the way they are. Our school has values and standards behind it that most other schools don't, and whining, disrespecting, and belittling the refs during the game are not those standards.
Last edited by SuperJon on November 20th, 2009, 1:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
By Hold My Own
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We've said it on here before. It's not a matter of play. KO was the crowd favorite when his minutes were sparse at best yet everyone loved him. He wasnt very good then yet he was the favorite...our LU students want someone they can relate with on the court....pretty much who he used to be.
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By LUnpretty11
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I agree. Telling them to stop is appropriate, but like I said, taking cheap shots at the player i.e. doing the step step step step step step sit down little chant as he goes to the bench, probably isn't how to go about telling him to quit the attitude. I'm talking about the bashes on the FG % & booing. If you want someone to quit the attitude the best way of doing that is to NOT disrespect them, or embarrass the rest of the crowd by making cheap comments.
Obviously SJ, I know you had no part in that.
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By JDUB
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I think the coach should pull KO out when he starts with his attitude. In the Clemson game, he quit hustling, was the last player down the court several times, didn't dive after loose balls, and was more concerned with talking to the ref than playing basketball. This shows that he thinks he is better than everyone because he doesn't think he needs to hustle and play with the rest of the team. If he doesn't want to play, put in a freshman who does.

If you want to accuse me of being a bad fan, go ahead. I really don't care what you think. I care how LU looks, and if we are going to get absolutely raped I'd like to see us take it standing up. Hustle. Keep your chin up. Don't whine and complain like a middle schooler in puberty. Represent LU well or get off the court. I'm sure there is someone on the bench who will at least hustle, and I'm sure their stats wouldn't be much worse either.
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By Cider Jim
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JDUB wrote: if we are going to get absolutely raped I'd like to see us take it standing up.
:dontgetit :shock: Is that some kind of backwoods Deliverance saying they have down there in NC? :dontgetit :shock:
By blwall1416
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JDUB wrote:...was more concerned with talking to the ref than playing basketball...Don't whine and complain like a middle schooler in puberty.
I can say that he has this reputation among officials.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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Must....Not....Comment.....
By coolhandluke
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I will comment... Kyle Ohman is horrible. I have played against better basketball players in Lahaye, which is where Kyle got his start. He needs to remember that. All the ink has got to his brain and caused a chemical reaction making him think that he is something more than just a spot up shooter and role player. We need to limit his minutes, or this season is going to end up really badly, really quickly!
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By BJWilliams
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I had kept this to myself but I will say that I talked to one of the players after the ODU game and he supports Kyle (and tried to make it plain to me that he isnt the only one)
By coolhandluke
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That's great. If he starts playing some ball, I'll be happy. Right now he's playing like the intramural Kyle. He needs to lose the "KO attitude" and realize that he is lucky to be where he is right now.
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By Schfourteenteen
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1st Half - Did very well as a spot up shooter. Took a couple drives to the bucket and threw up bad floaters. KO is a very good player in a specific role, but the off balance layup has killed some drives weve put together. Either way a much better showing tonight.
By coolhandluke
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He does some good things, but then ruins it by trying to drive. If a coach can make a player not take a shot from three, then why can't a coach tell him never to drive? EVER!
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By dompennix
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FlamesBeBallin wrote:Did anybody thats watching the ND game see him just slip? haha wow :roll:
Yup :lol:
By LUconn
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He is going to cost us a win at some point this season.
By Hold My Own
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Just one? I'll take that
By LUconn
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It's hard to say because we haven't been in a game as of yet.
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By JDUB
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hurricane fan wrote:is it just me, or does he seem to be the last one back on defense?
not just you. I mentioned that in my rant above. I think it shows a mentality of being more important than other players and not needing to hustle, which is unacceptable.
By thepostman
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KO sucks..end of discussion..kyle can come back any time he likes..but KO sucks
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