If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Kolzilla41
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I thought Davidson was already ruled out for the bracket buster game?
By SuperJon
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flamerbob wrote:I thought Davidson was already ruled out for the bracket buster game?
Why would they be ruled out when they're the most logical choice?


As for these games mattering, I'm kinda with the "ehh" mentality with that. Yes, it would be great to win them and would help our team a ton, but we're not to the point where it's going to absolutely kill us if we don't. The most important thing, this year, is the conference and conference tournament. That's it. That's what matters. Let's achieve step 1 of "Gonzaga's Guide To Being Cinderella" before we start worry about all of the other stuff. We have to get there or the other stuff doesn't matter.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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WOW SJ and I agree on something. Historical day!

On the Bracketbuster deal, I seem to remember seeing on here someone saying ESPN said they tried to match us up and it didn't work out!
By olldflame
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That wasn't for Bracketbusters. We tried to schedule a pre-conference game with them and couldn't get together on a date. As far as I know a Davidson/LU Bracketbusters game is still very much a possibility.
By Hold My Own
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olldflame wrote:That wasn't for Bracketbusters. We tried to schedule a pre-conference game with them and couldn't get together on a date. As far as I know a Davidson/LU Bracketbusters game is still very much a possibility.


:nod
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By Rooster Cogburn
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Well then if ESPN doesn't pick that one it is the marketing bonehead move of the Century! or something like that.
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By jcmanson
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I agree with what you guys are saying. The conference and tourney are most important, but it would still help greatly to win these games. What I’m trying to get at is the mentality that “oh we’re playing Depaul, well that’s a loss.” We shouldn’t be thinking that anymore. We also shouldn’t be hoping for a close loss.
By LUconn
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SuperJon wrote:
flamerbob wrote:I thought Davidson was already ruled out for the bracket buster game?
Why would they be ruled out when they're the most logical choice?
On the other hand, it gets less logical with every one of our losses. Davidson is the bracketbuster series' jewel right now (CBS will be broadcasting them nationally vs Purdue on Saturday instead of a #2 vs #8 matchup). They'll want them to be in the best matchup possible. And us on a losing streak is less desirable.
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By DeathCab4LU
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SuperJon wrote:Let's achieve step 1 of "Gonzaga's Guide To Being Cinderella" before we start worry about all of the other stuff. We have to get there or the other stuff doesn't matter.
Well said SJ
By olldflame
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We aren't on a @#*&% "losing streak"!!!!!!

Cheese Louise guys! Don't drive yourself crazy thinking about "what could have happened" if we had won all of these games. If we went undefeated this year, we "could have" gotten maybe an 8 seed. That never was gunna happen, and obviously won't now. Can't we just be happy that our young group is playing exciting, competitive, hustling, hard-nosed basketball? As long as they keep this up and show progress, a loss here and there isn't going to bother me. Let the chips fall where they may.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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olldflame wrote:We aren't on a @#*&% "losing streak"!!!!!!

Cheese Louise guys! Don't drive yourself crazy thinking about "what could have happened" if we had won all of these games. If we went undefeated this year, we "could have" gotten maybe an 8 seed. That never was gunna happen, and obviously won't now. Can't we just be happy that our young group is playing exciting, competitive, hustling, hard-nosed basketball? As long as they keep this up and show progress, a loss here and there isn't going to bother me. Let the chips fall where they may.
:clapping
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By DeathCab4LU
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LUconn wrote:They'll want them to be in the best matchup possible. And us on a losing streak is less desirable.
I didn't know we were on a loosing streak!
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By Kolzilla41
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olldflame wrote:We aren't on a @#*&% "losing streak"!!!!!!

Cheese Louise guys! Don't drive yourself crazy thinking about "what could have happened" if we had won all of these games. If we went undefeated this year, we "could have" gotten maybe an 8 seed. That never was gunna happen, and obviously won't now. Can't we just be happy that our young group is playing exciting, competitive, hustling, hard-nosed basketball? As long as they keep this up and show progress, a loss here and there isn't going to bother me. Let the chips fall where they may.
He referring to the possibility of a bracket buster game versus Davidson, not the season overall
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By Kolzilla41
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DeathCab4LU wrote:
LUconn wrote:They'll want them to be in the best matchup possible. And us on a losing streak is less desirable.
I didn't know we were on a loosing streak!
Technically we are, lost our last game
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By DeathCab4LU
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olldflame wrote:We aren't on a @#*&% "losing streak"!!!!!!

Cheese Louise guys! Don't drive yourself crazy thinking about "what could have happened" if we had won all of these games. If we went undefeated this year, we "could have" gotten maybe an 8 seed. That never was gunna happen, and obviously won't now. Can't we just be happy that our young group is playing exciting, competitive, hustling, hard-nosed basketball? As long as they keep this up and show progress, a loss here and there isn't going to bother me. Let the chips fall where they may.
Well said Olldflame!
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By jcmanson
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Here are the away bracketbuster teams who have current RPI’s in the top 100 (not including us) and could thus play Davidson:

Bradley, Buffalo, Butler, Cleveland State, George Mason, Hofstra, Jacksonville State, Miami-OH, Missouri State, VCU

These are the teams we would be competing against to play Davidson.
By LUconn
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man, you guys are way too sensitive. We're discussing scenarios. And us continuing to lose would be some kind of losing streak. Try reading things in context.

Just because I'm not as elated with a loss as you guys are, doesn't mean I don't love this team. They've shown me what they can do and as a result, I expect more of them. It's the way the real world works. You guys clinging to your preseason expectations of not being good need to realize that it's not the preseason anymore and that we are indeed a very good team. Adjust your expectations accordingly and stop trying to sandbag everything. I also can keep in perspective how far we've come, but I'm also living at the point we're at.
By olldflame
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#219137
flamerbob wrote:
olldflame wrote:We aren't on a @#*&% "losing streak"!!!!!!

Cheese Louise guys! Don't drive yourself crazy thinking about "what could have happened" if we had won all of these games. If we went undefeated this year, we "could have" gotten maybe an 8 seed. That never was gunna happen, and obviously won't now. Can't we just be happy that our young group is playing exciting, competitive, hustling, hard-nosed basketball? As long as they keep this up and show progress, a loss here and there isn't going to bother me. Let the chips fall where they may.
He referring to the possibility of a bracket buster game versus Davidson, not the season overall
Have you paid any attention to how ESPN operates? Trust me, if they are making the decision, the Curry vs. Curry "story" will trump every other factor. They are promoting it all ready with these pieces they are doing on Seth.
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By RagingTireFire
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Screw Davidson, Screw ESPN and Screw Stephen Curry.
Last edited by RagingTireFire on December 18th, 2008, 1:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
By Chris Lang
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Here's a list of the home and away teams for the Bracket Buster:

http://sportsontheair.blogspot.com/2008 ... -team.html

The teams most likely to disrupt a potential Liberty-Davidson matchup are probably Illinois State, VCU and Butler. ESPN will keep the Curry vs. Curry matchup in mind, but if Illinois State (currently 10-0) has a gaudy record and is ranked in the Top 25, it might be hard to turn down a Illinois State-Davidson pairing. Butler's 8-1 right now. VCU 7-3. One of the big goals of the Bracket Buster is to pair high RPI teams against each other.

Decisions won't be made until late January, so there's still time for things to work themselves out.
By olldflame
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I'm not excited about losses, I'm excited about the way our team is playing.
By paradox
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Chris Lang wrote:Here's a list of the home and away teams for the Bracket Buster:

http://sportsontheair.blogspot.com/2008 ... -team.html

The teams most likely to disrupt a potential Liberty-Davidson matchup are probably Illinois State, VCU and Butler. ESPN will keep the Curry vs. Curry matchup in mind, but if Illinois State (currently 10-0) has a gaudy record and is ranked in the Top 25, it might be hard to turn down a Illinois State-Davidson pairing. Butler's 8-1 right now. VCU 7-3. One of the big goals of the Bracket Buster is to pair high RPI teams against each other.

Decisions won't be made until late January, so there's still time for things to work themselves out.

Chris and LUconn have a point, we could potentially lose our way out of contention for the Davidson game, however, if we happen to dominate our conference heading into the match-up decision, then I think that our chances will be somewhat favorable.
By Hold My Own
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olldflame wrote:I'm not excited about losses, I'm excited about the way our team is playing.

To bad we dont get excited, cause if we did we would have had the time of our lives the last 4 years!
By treyjman24
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LUconn wrote:man, you guys are way too sensitive. We're discussing scenarios. And us continuing to lose would be some kind of losing streak. Try reading things in context.

Just because I'm not as elated with a loss as you guys are, doesn't mean I don't love this team. They've shown me what they can do and as a result, I expect more of them. It's the way the real world works. You guys clinging to your preseason expectations of not being good need to realize that it's not the preseason anymore and that we are indeed a very good team. Adjust your expectations accordingly and stop trying to sandbag everything. I also can keep in perspective how far we've come, but I'm also living at the point we're at.
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