[olldflame]

Moore can shoot the rock. He burned us for 5 or 6 3s down there 2 or 3 years ago. He is not as good overall as their other guards though, and got cought in the numbers game. I don't think the NCCU game really tells us much. WU and CSU will be a much better test of how competetive they will be going forward.

[coastalalum]

If Holloway is out for the conference tourney, then we are the favorites. It would be a major disappointment to NOT win it. You have to capitalize on these things.

you just lost to vmi....seriously, how could you possibly believe it's that cut and dried??

this tournament championship is very much up for grabs.

[jcmanson]

If Holloway is out for the conference tourney, then we are the favorites. It would be a major disappointment to NOT win it. You have to capitalize on these things.

you just lost to vmi....seriously, how could you possibly believe it's that cut and dried??

this tournament championship is very much up for grabs.

We are 13-3. 2 losses to CCU. Without your starting backcourt I doubt you even make it to the finals. If we make the finals, on our home court, we won't lose.

[jbock13]

I actually agree with Coastalalum. But that's all I have to say.

[anberlinrawk]

Of course it's up for grabs. It's not like we dominated the conference.

HOWEVER,

If Coastal gets knocked out in the first or second round, we are the favorites, and it would be a letdown to lose in the tournament. Just because we're the favorites doesn't mean someone else won't win... that's entirely possible. But it would be a let down to not win it all, if our games went...

1. GW or HP at home
2. UNCA/WIN/CSU at CCU
3. Whoever at home

That should be three wins and a tourney bid. If CCU manages to win their way to the final, we should still beat them, but playing a conference final in someone else's gym is gonna be tough, no matter how many people they've lost.

And if the NCAA acts quickly, and CCU is eliminated, and we get RU at home, UNCA/WIN/CSU at home, then whoever else at home, any loss would be completely inexcusable.

[g-webb1994]

not to mention VMI can beat almost anyone if they get hot.

That's the scary thing about facing them in tourney play.

On the topic of CCU being 'eliminated' by the NCAA and RU getting in, it somewhat concerns me as a Big South disciple that these two schools have, within days of each other, been put under the NCAA microscope. Not exactly good pub for the conference heading into March Madness, especially considering how the rise in our conference RPI has been a nice story this year.

[From the class of 09]

And if the NCAA acts quickly, and CCU is eliminated, and we get RU at home, UNCA/WIN/CSU at home, then whoever else at home

not that i would ever wish any harm on costal but this would be awsome...hosting the tournement even by default would be freakin sweet

[From the class of 09]

So is the issue an academically ineligible player playing games this semester?

my understanding is no one that knows is saying anything

[GoEagles]

not to mention VMI can beat almost anyone if they get hot.

That's the scary thing about facing them in tourney play.

On the topic of CCU being 'eliminated' by the NCAA and RU getting in, it somewhat concerns me as a Big South disciple that these two schools have, within days of each other, been put under the NCAA microscope. Not exactly good pub for the conference heading into March Madness, especially considering how the rise in our conference RPI has been a nice story this year.

Who would have guessed back in November that the BSC would be in the middle of the pack among the conferences in Men's Basketball? Whether or not Holloway is suspended we're still going to get a great tournament this year. I think we can all agree that next year should be the best BSC basketball we've ever seen. The year after that, well I'll hold on until after next year.

[g-webb1994]

not to mention VMI can beat almost anyone if they get hot.

That's the scary thing about facing them in tourney play.

On the topic of CCU being 'eliminated' by the NCAA and RU getting in, it somewhat concerns me as a Big South disciple that these two schools have, within days of each other, been put under the NCAA microscope. Not exactly good pub for the conference heading into March Madness, especially considering how the rise in our conference RPI has been a nice story this year.

Who would have guessed back in November that the BSC would be in the middle of the pack among the conferences in Men's Basketball? Whether or not Holloway is suspended we're still going to get a great tournament this year. I think we can all agree that next year should be the best BSC basketball we've ever seen. The year after that, well I'll hold on until after next year.

What already has me ticked off about next season is how we all know that Kallander will completely screw up the whole schedule with 11 teams. The moron couldn't go grab a Savannah State or similar real quick and make it a balanced 12 teams could he? Kallander = The definition of a clod.

[jbock13]

Let's just say there were 12 teams in the Big South and the divisions split. In the North you'd have

Liberty
VMI
UNC Asheville
High Point
Radford
Campbell

then in the South
Gardner Webb
Presby
Coastal
Charleston S.
Winthrop
(add whoever your hypothetical 12th team would be here)

Seems a bit even. My big issue is that the conference tournament needs to be held at a NEUTRAL site. There's no such thing as home court advantage (unless you're Duke) in the NCAA tournament.

On a side note, might I add Gardner Webb fans are the nicest fans I've ever met? There's only one I've met that was rude, but he was drunk at an Orioles game and starting tipping a GW hat at me because I had my Liberty jacket on. Random story.

[WinthropEagleFan]

Seems a bit even. My big issue is that the conference tournament needs to be held at a NEUTRAL site. There's no such thing as home court advantage (unless you're Duke) in the NCAA tournament.

So you don't like rewarding regular season success with home games for the conference tourney? Not sure what NCAA tournament games have to do with anything. Neutral site tourneys are fun, especially for fans, but it doesn't do much to reward the regular season champ...and I've seen the crowd for a championship game between two teams that aren't very close to the neutral site...not a very fun atmosphere for such a big game.

[jbock13]

Seems a bit even. My big issue is that the conference tournament needs to be held at a NEUTRAL site. There's no such thing as home court advantage (unless you're Duke) in the NCAA tournament.

So you don't like rewarding regular season success with home games for the conference tourney? Not sure what NCAA tournament games have to do with anything. Neutral site tourneys are fun, especially for fans, but it doesn't do much to reward the regular season champ...and I've seen the crowd for a championship game between two teams that aren't very close to the neutral site...not a very fun atmosphere for such a big game.

I understand that argument, but also I disagree with it. Winning a championship should require that you leave the comforts of home to win. Whether that be NCAA, Big South, etc. This doesn't always mean sometimes you may get a "home advantage" if you play somewhere close. I realize that's an opinion of mine and everyone is free to disagree but in my opinion your "reward to the regular season champ" is the #1 seed and the easiest path to winning your championship.

Let's just be honest. The reason why the Big South (and other Mid-Major conferences) give the tourney to the highest seed is so that way the best team has the best chance of winning with a home-court advantage. Not saying there's anything wrong with that on their part, I just don't feel it's right.

[g-webb1994]

Let's just say there were 12 teams in the Big South and the divisions split. In the North you'd have

Liberty
VMI
UNC Asheville
High Point
Radford
Campbell

then in the South
Gardner Webb
Presby
Coastal
Charleston S.
Winthrop
(add whoever your hypothetical 12th team would be here)

Seems a bit even. My big issue is that the conference tournament needs to be held at a NEUTRAL site. There's no such thing as home court advantage (unless you're Duke) in the NCAA tournament.

On a side note, might I add Gardner Webb fans are the nicest fans I've ever met? There's only one I've met that was rude, but he was drunk at an Orioles game and starting tipping a GW hat at me because I had my Liberty jacket on. Random story.

Every school has buttholes, but schools with some sense of moral fiber and faith have fewer than others. I haven't met any Liberty fans in person so far that I would classify as rude either.

Back to hoops, Kallander wants an 18 game schedule with 11 teams. The only feasible way without division play is home/home series with 7 teams, then the other 4 teams play one time. How in the heck do you decide the four single games? Geographic location? A guaranteed mess to ensue.

[flamehunter]

Not saying there's anything wrong with that on their part, I just don't feel it's right.

I'm going to spend all weekend trying to make sense of that one.

[WinthropEagleFan]

What already has me ticked off about next season is how we all know that Kallander will completely screw up the whole schedule with 11 teams. The moron couldn't go grab a Savannah State or similar real quick and make it a balanced 12 teams could he? Kallander = The definition of a clod.

I won't claim he's a perfect commish, but you realize it is also the school presidents that bring about expansion and things like that...and it isn't like you can just pick schools out of a vending machine to have them just hop into your league.

And it isn't like an 11-team/18-game conference schedule hasn't been done before (see Big Ten..so it isn't like Kallander is creating the idea), though I can't stand conference schedules that don't have everyone playing everyone else twice.

[aredd33]

Is there a rule against a 20 game schedule?

[olldflame]

Is there a rule against a 20 game schedule?

No, but there is a rule on how many total games you can play (I think it's 31, and 4 of those must be in tournaments). When you get over 18 conference games, it gets tough to put together a good non-conference schedule.

[WinthropEagleFan]

Yeah, I know the SoCon tried a 20 game schedule back when they had 11 members, and the coaches hated it...said it really restricted their non-conference schedule opportunities. The A-Sun currently is an 11-member league w/ a 20-game schedule. The MEAC is an 11-team league with a 16-game schedule.

[Chris Lang]

Northeast also plays a 20-game schedule.

I don't think a 20-game schedule is so bad for Big South teams. I'd rather see the league play extra conference games rather than home games against the likes of Toccoa Falls, Virginia Intermont and Thomas More.

[g-webb1994]

Northeast also plays a 20-game schedule.

I don't think a 20-game schedule is so bad for Big South teams. I'd rather see the league play extra conference games rather than home games against the likes of Toccoa Falls, Virginia Intermont and Thomas More.

Amen to that. One good thing that the A-Sun had when G-W was a member, and I'm pretty sure the rule is still in place, is that no team could schedule more than two non D-1 teams per season. It's quite obvious the Big South has no such guideline.

It's just a shame that nobody apparently had the foresight to see the need of another school joining the conference for an even number with Campbell already coming in.

Back to ball, I hope the conference shows well today in the Bracketbuster events.

[GoEagles]

wrong thread edit

[g-webb1994]

Bad showing in the Bracketbusters for the BSC, with CSU getting the only win. G-W lost yet another close game.

[markymark550]

Seems a bit even. My big issue is that the conference tournament needs to be held at a NEUTRAL site. There's no such thing as home court advantage (unless you're Duke) in the NCAA tournament.

So you don't like rewarding regular season success with home games for the conference tourney? Not sure what NCAA tournament games have to do with anything. Neutral site tourneys are fun, especially for fans, but it doesn't do much to reward the regular season champ...and I've seen the crowd for a championship game between two teams that aren't very close to the neutral site...not a very fun atmosphere for such a big game.

I understand that argument, but also I disagree with it. Winning a championship should require that you leave the comforts of home to win. Whether that be NCAA, Big South, etc. This doesn't always mean sometimes you may get a "home advantage" if you play somewhere close. I realize that's an opinion of mine and everyone is free to disagree but in my opinion your "reward to the regular season champ" is the #1 seed and the easiest path to winning your championship.

Let's just be honest. The reason why the Big South (and other Mid-Major conferences) give the tourney to the highest seed is so that way the best team has the best chance of winning with a home-court advantage. Not saying there's anything wrong with that on their part, I just don't feel it's right.

Giving the better teams an advantage is part of the reason they went to the current format. However, the conference was losing money on having the tournament at neutral sites. I'm sure that also played a factor in switching to the current format.

[markymark550]

Back to hoops, Kallander wants an 18 game schedule with 11 teams. The only feasible way without division play is home/home series with 7 teams, then the other 4 teams play one time. How in the heck do you decide the four single games? Geographic location? A guaranteed mess to ensue.

I'd imagine that they do it like the ACC and have it on a rotating schedule. They'll probably have one or two "protected" opponents every year and rotate the rest.


I will say that even though it's probably going to be odd and a pain with having an 11 team conference. I am glad they didn't just go add a school like Savannah State just to even things out. Adding a school just to add a school isn't a good idea imo.