If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By jmdickens
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Did not see the game....had to work.

inthbeginning and myself work in the most liberal town in Texas.....

next game please 8)
By paradox
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Games like this are going to happen, especially early on, with nine players suiting up---and seven of the nine are freshman.


This team is only going to get better!
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By JDUB
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that was ugly. i think i'm just gonna move on and not think about it.
By inthebeginning
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hurricane fan wrote:I can't believe we were eliminated from the postseason today.......so sad :roll:

Can't wait for baseball to start but I hope Toman doesn't lose 1 of their first couple of games. Would hate to give up on them in February. :roll:

It's not even Thanksgiving yet !!!!!!

Bob Knight just talked about freshmen in the pregame of UNC/Kentucky. He said you have no idea what to expect day in and day out. But some of you guys know more than he does about basketball.

Just because some of you play pick up basketball in the mornings doesnt mean you know anything about the game. That's why you play in the mornings.
I can appreciate the need for time, but this is a below average Asheville team. Now if we were just overwhelmed with the environment then improvement is on the way. Obviously you have more insight than most you listened to Bobby.
By SuperJon
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How do you know this is a below average Asheville team? They are completely unproven and you have no clue if they're going to be great this year or be terrible. It's too early to tell.
By hurricane fan
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inthebeginning wrote:
hurricane fan wrote:I can't believe we were eliminated from the postseason today.......so sad :roll:

Can't wait for baseball to start but I hope Toman doesn't lose 1 of their first couple of games. Would hate to give up on them in February. :roll:

It's not even Thanksgiving yet !!!!!!

Bob Knight just talked about freshmen in the pregame of UNC/Kentucky. He said you have no idea what to expect day in and day out. But some of you guys know more than he does about basketball.

Just because some of you play pick up basketball in the mornings doesnt mean you know anything about the game. That's why you play in the mornings.
I can appreciate the need for time, but this is a below average Asheville team. Now if we were just overwhelmed with the environment then improvement is on the way. Obviously you have more insight than most you listened to Bobby.
The point is he has actually done something for people to want to listen to him. Unlike some people on here that coach behind a keyboard after the game is over.
By CMII
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paradox wrote:Games like this are going to happen, especially early on, with nine players suiting up---and seven of the nine are freshman.


This team is only going to get better!
or this is going to be the norm.
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By Sly Fox
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While we weren't playing defense, they were hitting ridiculous shots all over the floor. Smith may not hit that many threes again in entire months. And anyone who has ever played a game understands that when things start rolling for one team it can snowball in a hurry. Our guys didn't handle adversity ... at all. But hopefully they get over this quickly.
By LUconn
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CMII wrote:
paradox wrote:Games like this are going to happen, especially early on, with nine players suiting up---and seven of the nine are freshman.


This team is only going to get better!
or this is going to be the norm.
Or they could get marginally better. Or they could get even worse. Or we could win a national championship. Or they could all die in a terrorist attack. Or they could all decide to play football instead. Or we could all be raptured.


Odds are they'll get better as you progress into the season.
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By kingaling42
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SuperJon wrote:How do you know this is a below average Asheville team? They are completely unproven and you have no clue if they're going to be great this year or be terrible. It's too early to tell.
It's kinda sad that some of you on here are just throwing your team under the bus for this one game- your first D1 road game at that.. We, just like you guys are super young this year- on any given night when your depending on freshmen they're simply not going to always deliver- period.. I agree with you Jon that until some more games are played you simply don't know what any team is going to do, traditionally when UNCA has been picked towards the bottom half of the pre-season polls- we've ended up either the 1st or 2nd best team after the year is played.. many of you simply read some pre-season predictions and prospectus and assume that it's all just going to play out that way.. Those of you that are so down on your team really don't seem to know the game very well- whether you play pick up ball or not!!

Your biggest problem is finding who is going to be a leader- even if that means that that person's scoring is going to suffer- who's gonna step up for your team like TJ used to?? I will leave your coaches alone as well, but UNCA's tallest starter is 6'6" (in real life).. if you can't make us pay inside with how small we are- you're not going to out shoot us in our gym.. 0-13 in the second half from 3 point land- drive, post, do something- but you don't have a play maker yet to help guys like Curry & Smith to get good shots & break down the defense.. so the question is who is going to step up for your team??
By LUconn
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kingaling42 wrote: It's kinda sad that some of you on here are just throwing your team under the bus for this one game- your first D1 road game at that..
It is sad, but we've always got some guys that are looking for any reason to do that. Unfortunately today was a smorgasbord for them.

Bottom line: we really have nowhere to go but up with the talent that we all know is there.
By thepostman
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kingaling42 wrote:
SuperJon wrote:How do you know this is a below average Asheville team? They are completely unproven and you have no clue if they're going to be great this year or be terrible. It's too early to tell.
It's kinda sad that some of you on here are just throwing your team under the bus for this one game- your first D1 road game at that.. We, just like you guys are super young this year- on any given night when your depending on freshmen they're simply not going to always deliver- period.. I agree with you Jon that until some more games are played you simply don't know what any team is going to do, traditionally when UNCA has been picked towards the bottom half of the pre-season polls- we've ended up either the 1st or 2nd best team after the year is played.. many of you simply read some pre-season predictions and prospectus and assume that it's all just going to play out that way.. Those of you that are so down on your team really don't seem to know the game very well- whether you play pick up ball or not!!

Your biggest problem is finding who is going to be a leader- even if that means that that person's scoring is going to suffer- who's gonna step up for your team like TJ used to?? I will leave your coaches alone as well, but UNCA's tallest starter is 6'6" (in real life).. if you can't make us pay inside with how small we are- you're not going to out shoot us in our gym.. 0-13 in the second half from 3 point land- drive, post, do something- but you don't have a play maker yet to help guys like Curry & Smith to get good shots & break down the defense.. so the question is who is going to step up for your team??
how dare you bring common sense to this board! you clearly know nothing about basketball!!! :D
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By kingaling42
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thepostman wrote: how dare you bring common sense to this board! you clearly know nothing about basketball!!! :D
Haha.. my bad..
By uncafan
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kingaling42 wrote:
thepostman wrote: how dare you bring common sense to this board! you clearly know nothing about basketball!!! :D
Haha.. my bad..
:lol:
By Ed Dantes
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paradox wrote:Games like this are going to happen, especially early on, with nine players suiting up---and seven of the nine are freshman.


This team is only going to get better!
Ahhh, the "we have so many freshman" excuse! I was waiting for that. The Mel Hankinson Award, ladies and gentlemen!

This team is only going to get better? Well, that's only because there's nothing lower than rock-bottom. Way to go guys.

By the way, guess who also played nine freshman and sophomores yesterday? That's right, UNC Asheville!

Stop making excuses and wake up, fellas. Ritchie McKay has a track record of failure, and Liberty University is just the next stop on his 'Reverse Midas Touch' tour.
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By Fumblerooskies
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kingaling knows his stuff. Trust me.
By hurricane fan
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Yeah, because we have never heard the "rebuilding" excuse, right? The difference is the kids we have now are 18 years old and not 20 year old JC transfers with two years of college basketball experience. Maybe McKay should have gone that route. Get a bunch of JC transfers that may be more "talented" when they come, but that embarrass everyone off the court. IMO, the growing pains we are going through right now and the outcome we will see, will be a far cry from past regimes. I would rather get embarrassed on the court every once in awhile than be embarrassed on a daily basis by the actions of players off the court.
By olldflame
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hurricane fan wrote:Yeah, because we have never heard the "rebuilding" excuse, right? The difference is the kids we have now are 18 years old and not 20 year old JC transfers with two years of college basketball experience. Maybe McKay should have gone that route. Get a bunch of JC transfers that may be more "talented" when they come, but that embarrass everyone off the court. IMO, the growing pains we are going through right now and the outcome we will see, will be a far cry from past regimes. I would rather get embarrassed on the court every once in awhile than be embarrassed on a daily basis by the actions of players off the court.

:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
By LUconn
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Ed Dantes wrote:
paradox wrote:Games like this are going to happen, especially early on, with nine players suiting up---and seven of the nine are freshman.


This team is only going to get better!
Ahhh, the "we have so many freshman" excuse! I was waiting for that. The Mel Hankinson Award, ladies and gentlemen!

This team is only going to get better? Well, that's only because there's nothing lower than rock-bottom. Way to go guys.

By the way, guess who also played nine freshman and sophomores yesterday? That's right, UNC Asheville!

Stop making excuses and wake up, fellas. Ritchie McKay has a track record of failure, and Liberty University is just the next stop on his 'Reverse Midas Touch' tour.

2 games into the man's 2nd season and we're calling for his head. Gotta love Liberty fans. They're just like Nebraska football fans only with no previous success.
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By Cider Jim
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“Now we’ve got a lot of film, and a lot of embarrassment to motivate us,” Flames coach Ritchie McKay said. “To be on national TV and play that poorly, it lessens the hype of how good the recruiting class is, about contending for a conference championship. We won’t have to answer those questions again. We just got flat-out embarrassed. There’s not a team in this league that will respect a performance like that....They had all the fight and all the toughness,” McKay said. “We wanted a pretty, finesse way to win. They wanted to win it the physical, tough, grind-it-out way. They got what they deserved, and we got what we deserved.”

“It was just embarrassing,” Smith said. “You work real hard in practice and then we just came out and played nothing like ourselves.”

“I don’t think we had a good defensive possession,” Curry said. “We might have had one or two. Coach can show us the whole game. He doesn’t even need to break it up. It was bad.”
http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/sports/c ... ras/10742/
By LUconn
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Liberty is now 4-14 all-time in Big South openers and 0-7 when it opens against UNCA
ZOMG!!!! RMK IS REVERSE MIDAS TOUCHING EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BUILT HERE AT LIBERTY!
By Ed Dantes
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LUconn wrote:
2 games into the man's 2nd season and we're calling for his head. Gotta love Liberty fans. They're just like Nebraska football fans only with no previous success.
I don't recall our team looking this gawd-awful during the first conference game of our last coach's second season...
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By jcmanson
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Ed Dantes wrote:
LUconn wrote:
2 games into the man's 2nd season and we're calling for his head. Gotta love Liberty fans. They're just like Nebraska football fans only with no previous success.
I don't recall our team looking this gawd-awful during the first conference game of our last coach's second season...
After his 2nd game in his 2nd season we did look pretty "gawd-awful" losing 91-64 to a William and Mary team that finished 7-20. You may remember how that season ended...
By hurricane fan
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jcmanson wrote:
Ed Dantes wrote:
LUconn wrote:
2 games into the man's 2nd season and we're calling for his head. Gotta love Liberty fans. They're just like Nebraska football fans only with no previous success.
I don't recall our team looking this gawd-awful during the first conference game of our last coach's second season...
After his 2nd game in his 2nd season we did look pretty "gawd-awful" losing 91-64 to a William and Mary team that finished 7-20. You may remember how that season ended...
Or in 2006-07 when we lost to Barton College at HOME in our second game of the season. That's not gawd-awful. :roll:

Let me edit that. It was actually the first game of the season. Does that make a difference?
By SuperJon
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Some people have been waiting for an excuse to tear down Coach McKay. They have started off with a negative approach rather than a clean slate.
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