If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Bigsouthking
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RVAparks wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Can't believe all the Calipari bashing in this thread.... Dude can coach,

UMASS = Final 4
Memphis = Final 4
Kentucky = 2 Final 4's and 1 title!

Regardless if you think he cheats, he's still coaching -- and all the Big Boys are dirty -- it's shady at the high levels. Also look at Memphis & UMASS now, both suck!
He's not coaching, he's recruiting. Give his talent to a good coach, and you'd see a resume with a lot more Final 4s and more of those listed converted into National Titles.
You my friend are an idiot when it somes to knowing basketball -- hope your'e not in a role of making coaching decisions.

someone link cbssportsline pre season most over rated / under rated coaches article... it will prove my point. All his peers say Calipari can coach and Roy Williams/Rick Barnes are over rated.
By lynchburgwildcats
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RVAparks wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Can't believe all the Calipari bashing in this thread.... Dude can coach,

UMASS = Final 4
Memphis = Final 4
Kentucky = 2 Final 4's and 1 title!

Regardless if you think he cheats, he's still coaching -- and all the Big Boys are dirty -- it's shady at the high levels. Also look at Memphis & UMASS now, both suck!
He's not coaching, he's recruiting. Give his talent to a good coach, and you'd see a resume with a lot more Final 4s and more of those listed converted into National Titles.
Interesting that you say that. Give some - not all - of that talent to other coaches, and that talent isn't in the NBA after a year. You think a top notch coach like Tom Izzo turns Marquis Teague, Eric Bledsoe, or Daniel Orton into a one-and-done player? LOL Quite a lot actually if you believe that. Izzo struggles to make a top-10 HS player in Adriean Payne anything more than a collosal waste of talent.

Coach K? Alright, because we all know the great amount of success he has had with his string of one-and-done players. Couldn't even make it past the first round last year with the second best HS player in the nation!

Roy Williams? Just like Dean Smith, always has one of the top 2-3 most talented rosters in the nation and rarely gets it done in the Tournament. That is unless he has his players taking fake classes so they can concentrate entirely on hoops and stay academically eligible.
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By R i
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JB does not need to fire anyone midseason to prove he is serious about winning.

Also, lets wait until conference play. Im not saying its gonna get much better, but at least wait and see.
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By jbock13
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PatrickKelly wrote:Liberty couldn't touch Pearl with him being dishonest to the NCAA. I'm not sure a big name is needed, but rather someone who can can identify and develope talent.

I didn't mean to turn this into a Cal thread, but for what it's worth Cal is a fantastic coach. The ability to have 6 or 7 superstars on a team and to get them to buy into a team concept is amazing. Darius Miler went from bring a starter to coming of the bench last year and he was fine with it and ended up getting drafted in the second round.
Yeah but all the non-liberty posters (although one in particular) can't help but bring Kentucky into every conversation.

Must be an inferiority complex. But anyway.
By lynchburgwildcats
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jbock13 wrote:
PatrickKelly wrote:Liberty couldn't touch Pearl with him being dishonest to the NCAA. I'm not sure a big name is needed, but rather someone who can can identify and develope talent.

I didn't mean to turn this into a Cal thread, but for what it's worth Cal is a fantastic coach. The ability to have 6 or 7 superstars on a team and to get them to buy into a team concept is amazing. Darius Miler went from bring a starter to coming of the bench last year and he was fine with it and ended up getting drafted in the second round.
Yeah but all the non-liberty posters (although one in particular) can't help but bring Kentucky into every conversation.

Must be an inferiority complex. But anyway.
You must mean Purple Haize since he's the one that first brought up Calipari in this thread!
By PatrickKelly
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R i wrote:JB does not need to fire anyone midseason to prove he is serious about winning.

Also, lets wait until conference play. Im not saying its gonna get much better, but at least wait and see.
I guess I'm not satisfied with beating the Radfords and Longwoods of the world. We should be a fairly good mid-major program in the same category as say Butler and VCU.
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By Purple Haize
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Sly Fox wrote:Haize was being sarcastic, Chippy. You should assume that going into each of his posts. His Hoosier boy Dakich in particular is a riot.
Not sure what you mean :dontgetit I've heard Dan speak of God and Jesus quite often!
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By Purple Haize
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RVAparks wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Can't believe all the Calipari bashing in this thread.... Dude can coach,

UMASS = Final 4
Memphis = Final 4
Kentucky = 2 Final 4's and 1 title!

Regardless if you think he cheats, he's still coaching -- and all the Big Boys are dirty -- it's shady at the high levels. Also look at Memphis & UMASS now, both suck!
He's not coaching, he's recruiting. Give his talent to a good coach, and you'd see a resume with a lot more Final 4s and more of those listed converted into National Titles.
Or Dean Smith and UNC. HA :D
Calipari can recruit and deal with one and done players. That does take a talent.
I also saw a lot of other coaches named yet only the UK troglodyte got defensive.
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By BJWilliams
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PatrickKelly wrote:
R i wrote:JB does not need to fire anyone midseason to prove he is serious about winning.

Also, lets wait until conference play. Im not saying its gonna get much better, but at least wait and see.
I guess I'm not satisfied with beating the Radfords and Longwoods of the world. We should be a fairly good mid-major program in the same category as say Butler and VCU.

Butler and VCU were also rans for some time as well before their recent successes so patience should be exercised
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By lynchburgwildcats
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Purple Haize wrote:
RVAparks wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Can't believe all the Calipari bashing in this thread.... Dude can coach,

UMASS = Final 4
Memphis = Final 4
Kentucky = 2 Final 4's and 1 title!

Regardless if you think he cheats, he's still coaching -- and all the Big Boys are dirty -- it's shady at the high levels. Also look at Memphis & UMASS now, both suck!
He's not coaching, he's recruiting. Give his talent to a good coach, and you'd see a resume with a lot more Final 4s and more of those listed converted into National Titles.
Or Dean Smith and UNC. HA :D
Touche.
By lynchburgwildcats
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BJWilliams wrote:
PatrickKelly wrote:
R i wrote:JB does not need to fire anyone midseason to prove he is serious about winning.

Also, lets wait until conference play. Im not saying its gonna get much better, but at least wait and see.
I guess I'm not satisfied with beating the Radfords and Longwoods of the world. We should be a fairly good mid-major program in the same category as say Butler and VCU.

Butler and VCU were also fans for some time as well before their recent successes so patience should be exercised
Patience doesn't exist in the sports world anymore!
By lynchburgwildcats
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bballfan84 wrote:getting back on point here..layer not going anywhere..he is on year 4 of 7..and im sure there is a buyout clause in there
Wait a second, Liberty signed him to a SEVEN-year contract?!
By Bigsouthking
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Layer shouldn't get fired mid year, no one should at this level... If he wins tourney all is forgotten...plus when Burrus comes back they will be much better...anyway if you make a mid year change you gotta have someone on staff that's ready and obviously that's not the case.... Patience with Layer, a lot of new guys on roster.
By ballah09
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bballfan84 wrote:getting back on point here..layer not going anywhere..he is on year 4 of 7..and im sure there is a buyout clause in there
:vomit 7 years? no way Jeff Barber gave him that. Barber strikes me as someone who can't admit his own mistakes by firing/buying out someone so I wouldnt be shocked to see him here for a little while.

Patience? every year it's a whole new roster.
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By GillsHill2013
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yea every year is a new roster with new injuries and new lineups with new ways to look terrible while wearing new uniforms.....yeah i took that overboard...
By lynchburgwildcats
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GillsHill2013 wrote:I say give him the year but if no ncaa bid then hit the road jack.
That's like firing a coach at a top shelf program for not making it to the Final Four every year.
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By BJWilliams
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
GillsHill2013 wrote:I say give him the year but if no ncaa bid then hit the road jack.
That's like firing a coach at a top shelf program for not making it to the Final Four every year.
Which is why we are a bunch of fans yammering on a message board and not the ones who actually make these decisions...
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By jbock13
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But what really matters is this.

Big South Conference Tournament: 0-3.

I like Layer. He's a classy individual who I have all the respect in the world for. But it's just not working out. And it doesn't look like it will change.
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By flameshaw
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Chippy wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
flameshaw wrote:Maybe we need a name coach? :D
Seth Greenburg, Bruce Pearl, Digger Phelps Dan Dakich,Hubert Davis ......
Hubert Davis may be the only Christian here?! I don't know the (depth of) faith of the others.
HD went to Carolina, no chance he is Christian. :roll:
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