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thepostman wrote:You, exaggerate!!??? NEVER!!!Transfers and 5th place finishes are now a standard of excellence for the 7 Dwarfs.
truthorconsequences wrote:That's bush league bro. You already used the snow white analogy once before. I know you can do better than that.thepostman wrote:You, exaggerate!!??? NEVER!!!Transfers and 5th place finishes are now a standard of excellence for the 7 Dwarfs.
jbock13 wrote:There is a collection of FF posters who are so short sighted on:truthorconsequences wrote:That's bush league bro. You already used the snow white analogy once before. I know you can do better than that.thepostman wrote:You, exaggerate!!??? NEVER!!!Transfers and 5th place finishes are now a standard of excellence for the 7 Dwarfs.
bballfan84 wrote:didnt RD load up with JUCO transfers???I wish I could get that sound bump from Family Guy:
Purple Haize wrote:Ask and ye shall receive...bballfan84 wrote:didnt RD load up with JUCO transfers???I wish I could get that sound bump from Family Guy:
Oh My God. Who The Hell Cares!
Very appropriate for ToC
Purple Haize wrote:To answer the question by looking at attendance very few.bballfan84 wrote:didnt RD load up with JUCO transfers???I wish I could get that sound bump from Family Guy:
Oh My God. Who The Hell Cares!
Very appropriate for ToC
Sly Fox wrote:In my experience with the Falwell family over the past 30+ years, they have never been shy about stating what they believe and standing by it. If anything it should be on their family crest.
thepostman wrote:RD was the model for what all college programs strive to be. Coach K could learn a thing or 2 from RD and how he ran the LU program. He is by far the greatest of all time. He never had people leave, he never had juco transfers and attendance was just plain awesome while he was here. I could barely ever find a seat.....oh wait a second none of that is remotely close to be true.RD was committed to LU and was here when because he believed in the mission. Had and was building us something special. JB comes in is given full control and has the right to make his decisions. Through questionable at best tactics he discredits men's basketball and baseball. So if you want to play ruthless D-1 athletics on LU people than when you are unable to deliver improvement in the programs with unseen level of $$$ in the history of Big South Conference then he needs to be accountable. We have underachieved period. And please don't credit him with facility improvement it is the same donors that Doc had and JLFjr commitment to upgrade the campus that has
There are those on this board that do live in a fantasy world and think the AD is flawless, but then there is the fantasy world that ToC lives in. I don't even think he believes everything he says anymore, but RD was/is his boy and he will stick with his story until he dies no matter how inaccurate he is.
thepostman wrote:RD was the model for what all college programs strive to be. Coach K could learn a thing or 2 from RD and how he ran the LU program. He is by far the greatest of all time. He never had people leave, he never had juco transfers and attendance was just plain awesome while he was here. I could barely ever find a seat.....oh wait a second none of that is remotely close to be true.I have often wondered, usally when I'm having a 'sit down' on my porcelain perch, if ToC has ever found any wrong during the tenure of his idol. His fascination is similar to that one has on a teenage heart throb. He speaks in a manner consistent to those who have Bieber-mania. (SLY he is the present day Shawn Cassdy or Eric Estrada.). His tenure here was NOT perfect and has been pointed out many times. Numerous people have also pointed out the good and the bad. Yes, he had a heart for Liberty and was let go. This in no way makes him unique. It could easily be argued that JM, who also had a heart for LU, did more with less, got shafted more then RD. But no one talks about him any more. Why? Because people have moved on and it is irrelevant to our current situation. much like RD at this point. JM is doing very well at Big Blue Nation and RD will do very well at VUL. Can't we just leave it at that?
There are those on this board that do live in a fantasy world and think the AD is flawless, but then there is the fantasy world that ToC lives in. I don't even think he believes everything he says anymore, but RD was/is his boy and he will stick with his story until he dies no matter how inaccurate he is.
truthorconsequences wrote:I love how you never actually respond to anybody that makes good points. You just talk about how committed RD was to LU. I think that is great. I am committed to LU too, but that doesn't mean I am the right man for the job. He had a constant influx of talent, much like we do now. For some reason that is ignored but when it happens today its wrong. That, once again, is where I get annoyed with your posts.thepostman wrote:RD was the model for what all college programs strive to be. Coach K could learn a thing or 2 from RD and how he ran the LU program. He is by far the greatest of all time. He never had people leave, he never had juco transfers and attendance was just plain awesome while he was here. I could barely ever find a seat.....oh wait a second none of that is remotely close to be true.RD was committed to LU and was here when because he believed in the mission. Had and was building us something special. JB comes in is given full control and has the right to make his decisions. Through questionable at best tactics he discredits men's basketball and baseball. So if you want to play ruthless D-1 athletics on LU people than when you are unable to deliver improvement in the programs with unseen level of $$$ in the history of Big South Conference then he needs to be accountable. We have underachieved period. And please don't credit him with facility improvement it is the same donors that Doc had and JLFjr commitment to upgrade the campus that has
There are those on this board that do live in a fantasy world and think the AD is flawless, but then there is the fantasy world that ToC lives in. I don't even think he believes everything he says anymore, but RD was/is his boy and he will stick with his story until he dies no matter how inaccurate he is.
LUconn wrote:I have no idea how good or bad Baird is, and I know that HS ratings can often be wrong, but I seriously doubt he's "stuck" behind anybody. This year he's been trying to make up for being out of basketball for 2 entire years. We all knew he wasn't going to do anything this year, although you'd have expected him to start coming on at the end of the year. If he's as skilled as we thought he was coming out of high school he could easily get into the rotation this year. But I guess that's if he's as skilled as he was advertised.This year wasnt exactly a fair shot for Baird. Coming off injury and 2 years out of the game. I hope he stays. I have stated here before I think he could be our leading scorer next year.
Purple Haize wrote:thepostman wrote:RD was the model for what all college programs strive to be. Coach K could learn a thing or 2 from RD and how he ran the LU program. He is by far the greatest of all time. He never had people leave, he never had juco transfers and attendance was just plain awesome while he was here. I could barely ever find a seat.....oh wait a second none of that is remotely close to be true.I have often wondered, usally when I'm having a 'sit down' on my porcelain perch, if ToC has ever found any wrong during the tenure of his idol. His fascination is similar to that one has on a teenage heart throb. He speaks in a manner consistent to those who have Bieber-mania. (SLY he is the present day Shawn Cassdy or Eric Estrada.). His tenure here was NOT perfect and has been pointed out many times. Numerous people have also pointed out the good and the bad. Yes, he had a heart for Liberty and was let go. This in no way makes him unique. It could easily be argued that JM, who also had a heart for LU, did more with less, got shafted more then RD. But no one talks about him any more. Why? Because people have moved on and it is irrelevant to our current situation. much like RD at this point. JM is doing very well at Big Blue Nation and RD will do very well at VUL. Can't we just leave it at that?
There are those on this board that do live in a fantasy world and think the AD is flawless, but then there is the fantasy world that ToC lives in. I don't even think he believes everything he says anymore, but RD was/is his boy and he will stick with his story until he dies no matter how inaccurate he is.
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:Maybe the RD fans are being extreme to show how ridiculous everyone else is about Barber and everyone else connected to athletics when they dont deserve the praise... Just a thought.I hope your thought dies of loneliness.
TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:Maybe the RD fans are being extreme to show how ridiculous everyone else is about Barber and everyone else connected to athletics when they dont deserve the praise... Just a thought.You do realize the amount of people who show their undying support for JB is about the same amount of people who show their undying support for RD. Both sides are just as ridiculous
thepostman wrote:Any insider knows what RD meant to the development of LU basketball. Now it is pretty obvious to duplicate his success in resurrecting the MH disaster has been not attain. I just know that we were building and the talent was here. I am convinced the JB's ego got in the way. You say he had no plan....i say his hires are poor. Athletics are this level are reduced to leadership and resources $$$. And we all know that resources are not the issue.truthorconsequences wrote:I love how you never actually respond to anybody that makes good points. You just talk about how committed RD was to LU. I think that is great. I am committed to LU too, but that doesn't mean I am the right man for the job. He had a constant influx of talent, much like we do now. For some reason that is ignored but when it happens today its wrong. That, once again, is where I get annoyed with your posts.thepostman wrote:RD was the model for what all college programs strive to be. Coach K could learn a thing or 2 from RD and how he ran the LU program. He is by far the greatest of all time. He never had people leave, he never had juco transfers and attendance was just plain awesome while he was here. I could barely ever find a seat.....oh wait a second none of that is remotely close to be true.RD was committed to LU and was here when because he believed in the mission. Had and was building us something special. JB comes in is given full control and has the right to make his decisions. Through questionable at best tactics he discredits men's basketball and baseball. So if you want to play ruthless D-1 athletics on LU people than when you are unable to deliver improvement in the programs with unseen level of $$$ in the history of Big South Conference then he needs to be accountable. We have underachieved period. And please don't credit him with facility improvement it is the same donors that Doc had and JLFjr commitment to upgrade the campus that has
There are those on this board that do live in a fantasy world and think the AD is flawless, but then there is the fantasy world that ToC lives in. I don't even think he believes everything he says anymore, but RD was/is his boy and he will stick with his story until he dies no matter how inaccurate he is.
I have no problem with you disagreeing with RD being fired. I have a problem with you ignoring his faults while complaining about the current state of things focusing on weaknesses that RD struggled with as well. I have a problem with you have some kind illusion that COMMUNITY support was stronger. I was there, and the community NEVER supported the basketball program while I was in Lynchburg from 2003-2009. I know we have done this dance before and its quite pointless but it just annoys me.
I guess unless we bow down to RD and say he was the greatest coach of all time, then its simply not good enough.
I will close this with something I have said numerous times. I liked RD. I never had a problem with him while he was here. I am not 100% sure if the right decision was made. If anything it was made without much of a plan in place. I freely admit that, but RD was far from the perfect coach.
truthorconsequences wrote:You finally got something almost correct. It was an ego that got in the way , but it wasn't JB's. Just have one question for you. Why hasn't/doesn't RD have a real coaching job? Chuck Burch was AD at LU when LU basketball was at the pinnacle of it's success. He has had a head coaching job come open at GW. Why didn't RD even sniff an interview? Most likely, he didn't even apply. Jeff Meyers has had some real good jobs since he left LU, you would think he would certainly be able to help RD with a lead or two. I could go on, but maybe you can read between the lines. No need to be more specific, even though I could, it solves nothing. RD is gone and is NEVER coming back, let it die.
I am convinced the JB's ego got in the way. You say he had no plan....i say his hires are poor. Athletics are this level are reduced to leadership and resources $$$. And we all know that resources are not the issue.
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