[jcmanson]

I don't know. I just think we're not going to win that game without him. We have nobody else that can play his position and score. Ride the hot hand. If he fouls out early, he fouls out early.

[Purple Haize]

I don't know. I just think we're not going to win that game without him. We have nobody else that can play his position and score. Ride the hot hand. If he fouls out early, he fouls out early.

But if he fouls out we would be playing the game without him. A no win proposition according to ur own post

[jcmanson]

I don't know. I just think we're not going to win that game without him. We have nobody else that can play his position and score. Ride the hot hand. If he fouls out early, he fouls out early.

But if he fouls out we would be playing the game without him. A no win proposition according to ur own post

Sitting him on the bench while in foul trouble is also playing without him. So why not play him as long as he's eligible.

[Helmickcd]

I don't know. I just think we're not going to win that game without him. We have nobody else that can play his position and score. Ride the hot hand. If he fouls out early, he fouls out early.

But if he fouls out we would be playing the game without him. A no win proposition according to ur own post

Sitting him on the bench while in foul trouble is also playing without him. So why not play him as long as he's eligible.

I'm glad we now understand what is going on in Layer's head every single game this season. With no depth on the team, the coaching staff is going to have to be absolutely fantastic to pull off any "upsets."

If JC can pick up his game a little and SOMEONE... ANYONE!!!... Can rebound the ball... LU will be a growing youthful team. I am excited to see LU go through some speed bumps and mature!

Go Flames!!

[FlameFanInCarolina]

Last night was the first time I had seen Liberty play in a couple of years. I was surprised we played 11 different people in the first half. I am curious, do we always continually substitute? There were several times it seemed like people were in the game for less than a minute. Overall, I thought we scored well in transition. Someone commented about the defense giving up a high point total, that happens when you can't defend the dribble which was a consistent problem last night. When Campbell drove, they either scored or got fouled. I had read a lot about Minaya on the board and was surprised he didn't start and seemed to play little in the first half especially. Overall, we gave a good effort but athletically it seems we have a long way to go.

[olldflame]

Apparently Minaya is nursing an injury and I'm guessing he did not start because he has not practiced.

[truthorconsequences]

Last night was the first time I had seen Liberty play in a couple of years. I was surprised we played 11 different people in the first half. I am curious, do we always continually substitute? There were several times it seemed like people were in the game for less than a minute. Overall, I thought we scored well in transition. Someone commented about the defense giving up a high point total, that happens when you can't defend the dribble which was a consistent problem last night. When Campbell drove, they either scored or got fouled. I had read a lot about Minaya on the board and was surprised he didn't start and seemed to play little in the first half especially. Overall, we gave a good effort but athletically it seems we have a long way to go.

We need a solution to giving up 49% fg to opponents to our 43% especially the 38% to 26% from 3.

[olldflame]

Last night was the first time I had seen Liberty play in a couple of years. I was surprised we played 11 different people in the first half. I am curious, do we always continually substitute? There were several times it seemed like people were in the game for less than a minute. Overall, I thought we scored well in transition. Someone commented about the defense giving up a high point total, that happens when you can't defend the dribble which was a consistent problem last night. When Campbell drove, they either scored or got fouled. I had read a lot about Minaya on the board and was surprised he didn't start and seemed to play little in the first half especially. Overall, we gave a good effort but athletically it seems we have a long way to go.

We need a solution to giving up 49% fg to opponents to our 43% especially the 38% to 26% from 3.

For once, I agree with you, but the solution won't be easy. Gordon was our best perimeter defender, JB was arguably our best overall defender, and Sommy was our best shot-blocker. Those losses have definately hurt us most on the defensive end.

[Purple Haize]

But I thought injuries were not an excuse. At least according to one thread.
Those are some key injuries, and it could be a struggle this year. Now if we were at Oral Roberts I would expect to have some faith healers brought in to take care of the situation!

[jcmanson]

Injuries shouldn't be an excuse. We are allotted 13 scholarships. We have 3 players injured. That leaves 10 scholarship players which should be more than enough.

[SuperJon]

Ha. Wow. You've gone completely off the deep end. Every team has 13 scholarship players that can contribute every year. Yeah. That's how it works.

[BJWilliams]

You referring to Purple or manson?

[Cider Jim]

BJ, Super's comment has to be referring to this statement:

10 scholarship players which should be more than enough.

[jcmanson]

Ha. Wow. You've gone completely off the deep end. Every team has 13 scholarship players that can contribute every year. Yeah. That's how it works.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth, you're good at that. Injuries can drop you from a conference champion contender to middle of the pack. It shouldn't drop you to the bottom of your conference.

[olldflame]

Ha. Wow. You've gone completely off the deep end. Every team has 13 scholarship players that can contribute every year. Yeah. That's how it works.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth, you're good at that. Injuries can drop you from a conference champion contender to middle of the pack. It shouldn't drop you to the bottom of your conference.

I would suggest that it is a bit premature to put us at the bottom of our conference.

[thepostman]

Ha. Wow. You've gone completely off the deep end. Every team has 13 scholarship players that can contribute every year. Yeah. That's how it works.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth, you're good at that. Injuries can drop you from a conference champion contender to middle of the pack. It shouldn't drop you to the bottom of your conference.

we were never going to be the top of the conference this year. If you ever thought that you were kidding yourself

[ToTheLeft]

If injuries are an excuse, why not, as a coach, have someone secretly take a golf club to your best players knee before every season? Free paychecks!

Injuries are no excuse. Especially when the injuries were not to Antwan, JVP, and Jesse, 3 guy who should be able to be All-Big South performers. And especially since you do have 13 scholarships, yet somehow the last couple schollies wind up going to Asaad Woods... who may have been good, but we never found out.

Everyone else in the Big South seems to have depth. Why don't we?

[ToTheLeft]

Ha. Wow. You've gone completely off the deep end. Every team has 13 scholarship players that can contribute every year. Yeah. That's how it works.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth, you're good at that. Injuries can drop you from a conference champion contender to middle of the pack. It shouldn't drop you to the bottom of your conference.

we were never going to be the top of the conference this year. If you ever thought that you were kidding yourself

Before JB went down, it was certainly a possibility to be top 4.

It really still is, because there are really only a couple of dominant teams in the BSC, and we'd just need to steal a couple road games.

However, we lost a chance to steal a road game at Campbell. Only a few more of those left.

[Purple Haize]

If injuries are an excuse, why not, as a coach, have someone secretly take a golf club to your best players knee before every season? Free paychecks!
?

If it wasn't for logics posts this would be the dumbest statement of 2011.

As for the rest of your post, how many teams go 13 deep? Most teams have a 7-9 person rotation. You take any 3 players out of that rotation on any team and you are going to have a tough year, I don't care who the coach is. Measuring sticks in that case become the competitiveness and fight in the team. We are showing that, and if we keep at it, we'll surprise some teams.

[ToTheLeft]

If injuries are an excuse, why not, as a coach, have someone secretly take a golf club to your best players knee before every season? Free paychecks!
?

If it wasn't for logics posts this would be the dumbest statement of 2011.

As for the rest of your post, how many teams go 13 deep? Most teams have a 7-9 person rotation. You take any 3 players out of that rotation on any team and you are going to have a tough year, I don't care who the coach is. Measuring sticks in that case become the competitiveness and fight in the team. We are showing that, and if we keep at it, we'll surprise some teams.

Yeah, because the golf club comment was serious. Totally serious. Just like the comment I just made. And the other one I just made. You get the point.

To call Sommy a rotation player is a stretch. He played a few minutes last year, and we hyped him over the offseason to be more than he was last year. To call Gielo a rotation player is way, wayyyyyy to presumptuous, he never played a minute for us. We lost JB, that's it. The rest of the team is the same rotation from last year, adding Baird who was supposed to be great, adding Speaks who was supposed to be a great scorer. We GAINED players to our rotation, versus losing them.

No good excuses.

[thepostman]

Injuries don't give people a free pass, because I think we were 4th to 6th place team before the injuries. Thats how little faith I had in this roster. Now with the injuries my expectations are much, much lower

The kind of injuries we have would hurt any team though to say anything otherwise isn't at all accurate.

The problem is the lack of talent we have.

[Purple Haize]

Yeah because players can't actually get better over the off season.
If they haven't played this year can you actually say whether they would have been rotation players or not? If the staff had them as contributes, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. Obviously you won't but that is fine.
Let's just say that they were numbers 7 and 8 in the rotation. That now means that your 10 player is moved up to #8. That's a huge jump on any roster. Are you can break it down by position and it could be worse.
These are not excuses, they are reasons. There is a difference between the 2

[ToTheLeft]

Yeah because players can't actually get better over the off season.
If they haven't played this year can you actually say whether they would have been rotation players or not? If the staff had them as contributes, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. Obviously you won't but that is fine.
Let's just say that they were numbers 7 and 8 in the rotation. That now means that your 10 player is moved up to #8. That's a huge jump on any roster. Are you can break it down by position and it could be worse.
These are not excuses, they are reasons. There is a difference between the 2

So then the "reason" Rocco stays is the DC he hired?

[Purple Haize]

I'll chalk that up there with you golf club comment

[ToTheLeft]

I'll chalk that up there with you golf club comment

Oh, okay. So I should be happy that we're fighting and "competing", and not losing by 30 in basketball?

I should be happy that our "best football team ever" couldn't make the playoffs for yet another year?

I guess I'm just a terrible fan.