If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Th3rd
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dompennix wrote:
Th3rd wrote:
SuperJon wrote:Thank God you didn't sit with me at the spring game then.
i just the the pics on FB that SCAR put up, i commented with a dislike button
I thought it was a great pic but the one before it is even better 8)
hahaha, you can think it all you want to, me i want to go slash that traitors tires and key his car with jesus loves you... just to keep it christian haha, how come i didnt know that was you until right now though, we were around each other all day yesterday and i never put 2 and 2 together
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By BJWilliams
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Look I know you guys are upset but youre REALLY goin a bit overboard...(even if it is meant in humor/sarcasm). What's done is done and if youre gonna hold a grudge against RMK and Seth over this til your dying day then God help you
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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BJWilliams wrote:Look I know you guys are upset but youre REALLY goin a bit overboard...(even if it is meant in humor/sarcasm). What's done is done and if youre gonna hold a grudge against RMK and Seth over this til your dying day then God help you

Youre Kidding right?
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By Th3rd
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:Look I know you guys are upset but youre REALLY goin a bit overboard...(even if it is meant in humor/sarcasm). What's done is done and if youre gonna hold a grudge against RMK and Seth over this til your dying day then God help you

Youre Kidding right?
i think he is joking about as much as you were when you first posted this...
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By flamesfilmguy
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BJWilliams wrote:Look I know you guys are upset but youre REALLY goin a bit overboard...(even if it is meant in humor/sarcasm). What's done is done and if youre gonna hold a grudge against RMK and Seth over this til your dying day then God help you
i disagree. setting his car on fire would have been overboard. Slashing his tires and spray painting the score to the LU Vs. UVA game from this year all over it however..... :evil:
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By Fumblerooskies
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OK...a coach from ANOTHER SCHOOL...playing pickup with players from OUR school. There has to be an NCAA violation in there somewhere.
By olldflame
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I would be surprised if Layer did not know about and OK this. My guess is because Richie left in such a hurry, he didn't get a chance to say proper goodbyes to the players, and this was his way of doing that.
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By Fumblerooskies
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olldflame wrote:I would be surprised if Layer did not know about and OK this. My guess is because Richie left in such a hurry, he didn't get a chance to say proper goodbyes to the players, and this was his way of doing that.
When you leave like he did...there is no such thing as a "proper goodbye." I supported his decision...but this REEKS of tampering.
By ALAFlamesFan
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Hold My Own wrote:I truly believe he already regrets this last move from some of the things I've heard.

If he doesn't like UVA and doesn't want to be a head coach maybe he is auditioning to be Coach Layer's assistant. :twisted:
By Hold My Own
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Fumblerooskies wrote:
olldflame wrote:I would be surprised if Layer did not know about and OK this. My guess is because Richie left in such a hurry, he didn't get a chance to say proper goodbyes to the players, and this was his way of doing that.
When you leave like he did...there is no such thing as a "proper goodbye." I supported his decision...but this REEKS of tampering.

It is an NCAA violation about the only thing Layer could have done was say "that's fine" but all that means is he wouldnt turn him in for the violation...still a violation. Dont think all the coach's knew though....
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By Th3rd
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Hold My Own wrote:
Fumblerooskies wrote:
olldflame wrote:I would be surprised if Layer did not know about and OK this. My guess is because Richie left in such a hurry, he didn't get a chance to say proper goodbyes to the players, and this was his way of doing that.
When you leave like he did...there is no such thing as a "proper goodbye." I supported his decision...but this REEKS of tampering.

It is an NCAA violation about the only thing Layer could have done was say "that's fine" but all that means is he wouldnt turn him in for the violation...still a violation. Dont think all the coach's knew though....

oldflame, the players said a 'proper' (though it may have been a little less then proper) goodbye. from what i have heard K.O. had some choice words for him before he left.

How did the coaches not know?
By SuperJon
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OMG!!1! Some1 call Mike Hagan!!



(I'm kidding, if anyone really calls Mike Hagan they deserve to be punched.)
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By jcmanson
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I saw baby Judas at the Spring Game. No further comment. 8)
By Hold My Own
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Th3rd wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:
Fumblerooskies wrote: When you leave like he did...there is no such thing as a "proper goodbye." I supported his decision...but this REEKS of tampering.

It is an NCAA violation about the only thing Layer could have done was say "that's fine" but all that means is he wouldnt turn him in for the violation...still a violation. Dont think all the coach's knew though....

oldflame, the players said a 'proper' (though it may have been a little less then proper) goodbye. from what i have heard K.O. had some choice words for him before he left.

How did the coaches not know?

These guys play pick up just about everyday...the coach's dont know, or really care for that fact. Nobody in their right mind was expecting this...
By olldflame
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I'm not saying I think it was appropriate. In fact I really don't; but as far as tampering is concerned, who would he be tampering with? We may have a player or 2 who could help UVA a little on the court, but it would be an absolute PR disaster. It's going to be hard enough as it is for Bennett/McKay and company without adding that to the mix.
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By RagingTireFire
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:He Just left... God must have called again...
:lol:
By Hold My Own
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olldflame wrote:I'm not saying I think it was appropriate. In fact I really don't; but as far as tampering is concerned, who would he be tampering with? We may have a player or 2 who could help UVA a little on the court, but it would be an absolute PR disaster. It's going to be hard enough as it is for Bennett/McKay and company without adding that to the mix.

Some say UVa really likes Jesse's game
By olldflame
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Of course they do.
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By "R" i "
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Does he still have an 80s flat top?
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By Rooster Cogburn
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TBGBGBGBGBG, did you record any conversations to see if any inappropriate conversations were had? :lol:
By Hold My Own
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olldflame wrote:Of course they do.

Then that could answer a question of: Tampering with who.


Deductive reasoning but if they've expressed interest in any of them then that makes all of this even more iffy and complicated
By SuperJon
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But if Jesse had already said he was coming back for sure at this point like you said he did, then it could just be a case of a former coach playing with his old team. Yeah, it's a tricky situation but to imply that purposeful illegal activity was going on is a bit much.

Logical guess at what went on:

1) The McKays went to church at Thomas Road.
2) They then stuck around and had lunch/visited with friends.
3) Ritchie found out the players were having a run in Schilling.
4a) He asked if he could come along.
4b) He was invited to play.
5) The McKays went back to Charlottesville.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact that he's playing here this soon after or that he was wearing UVA shorts but this stuff happens everywhere. You get pickup games with coaches and players from different schools. Go to the Triangle in North Carolina and I bet you'll find a mix of UNC, Duke, NC State, NC Central, and God only knows how many other schools running together. I can almost guarantee Wojo has played in the same pick-up game as Hansbrough over the past four years.
By Hold My Own
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Right, but its one of those deals that may not be a big deal and we could always say "things like this always happen" but either way it's not allowed per the NCAA


Each NCAA sport has different rules when it involves this kind of stuff...some sports contact is allowed but you cannot talk about recruiting...I thought that was the case in basketball but I found out that in basketball its no contact whatsoever
Last edited by Hold My Own on April 20th, 2009, 11:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
By SuperJon
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I'm not gonna argue that point at all. I was talking about the tampering allegations and that junk.
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