[El Scorcho]

That is the problem..some on here are so committed to hoping it is great that they classify good as great.

Yeah, that's the big problem here. Thanks for keeping it real.

[BJWilliams]

Look...you dont fight fire with gasoline...flameshaw shouldnt be calling you names just like you shouldnt be calling him names...the reason I (and Id say about 90% of this board) am so hard on you is because of the fact that you only come around it seems when bad things happen. Now I have never been one to drink LU Kool-Aid for any stretch (heck anyone else on this board can vouch for that). I missed out on the Big South Championship win in 2004 because I was out of town that day. I sincerely wanted to get another chance to be there before I graduated (and as anybody on here knows, that's and AWFUL lot of years since then). We got beat by a better team tonight plain and simple. We all want to see LU win the Big South. We all want to see LU be a consistent 20+ game winner. We want to see this team reach heights not seen since well before many of us had even heard of LU. I dont know youre story here and I wont claim to, but you really need to find a hobby other than lying in wait for LU to do poorly and then go on one of your anti-LU rants.

[SuperJon]

This was not a great season. This was a very good season but it was not great.

We overcame injuries that, looking back, were much bigger than I ever realized.

We overcame having no height in most games, although it killed us in a few.

We overcame a complete roster overhaul.

We beat UVA which was a big upset.

We met the expectations put before us at the beginning of the year.

We did everything a good team does.

For this to have been a great season, we would've had to have completed the comebacks at St. Louis and Depaul. Or not collapsed against Clemson. Or not lost by 57 points in two games to VMI. Or not lost to PC in double OT. Or not gotten blown out to Asheville in November.

A combination of 3-4 of these and this season would've been great. However, we didn't do these things and so I think this year was simply a good year and there's nothing wrong with that. We're on the right track. We have a great team coming back next year with the additions of injuries, redshirts, and recruits. Attendance is growing. The press and buzz around the team is growing. The loyal fan base is growing. Next year we have a great schedule. It was a good year. Hopefully next year will be great.

[vabigpoppa]

I don't see why Liberty wouldn't be preseason #1 in the fall. High Point has some good young talent and a good coach, UNCA as well, and Radford shouldn't drop off too far.

did i miss the memo? are art, joey, and amir turning pro this year?

[g-webb1994]

I don't see why Liberty wouldn't be preseason #1 in the fall. High Point has some good young talent and a good coach, UNCA as well, and Radford shouldn't drop off too far.

did i miss the memo? are art, joey, and amir turning pro this year?

No, but you can't expect to pull another 15-3 record in conference again, being you'll be marked as champion. Alot more parity next season.

[ToTheLeft]

poppa you guys got your propers in my next year's big south thread...

[CMII]

We had the preseason poy and the freshmen of the year...in the first half tonight we were the better talent. I think we were poorly coached in the 2nd half. Not one play in particular but where were the adjustments...rather I saw a group lay down and that is not great. Last year we had a great post player in Alex yet still jacked 3's. But as I said so many are on here with a teenage heart throb emotion to paint the picture of this performance and the future before really evaluating it. VMI just beat us by 57 pts in 80 minutes of basketball when all the chips were on the table.

[grm]

I think we had a good season, but there's not too much tolerance for the opposing viewpoint on this board.
Somebody takes a cheap shot, not only at the poster, but also at Mrs. Dunton, & when the reply comes back, then we get offended.

Same thing I've said for three years. Tell both sides to stop it, not just one.

Good season - Congratulations to Coach McKay, and let's stop blaming VMI for beating us.
They did what we wanted to do.

Again I say, the Flames had a good season.

[El Scorcho]

I think we had a good season, but there's not too much tolerance for the opposing viewpoint on this board.

There's plenty of tolerance for the view that this was just a good season. Look up above and see that one of the biggest homers on this board just agreed completely with that sentiment.

What there isn't any tolerance for (and with good reason) is the opposition simply based on that same old tired story that we've been around with so many times on this board. After every hard loss this season (or at any point that it was convenient to kick the team/coach while they were already down) CMII and his crew show up. We all know exactly why. It's skirted around quite nicely, but anyone with half a brain cell can see what's going on here. It's not only ridiculous, it's just not right. You can claim that you're just trying to show an opposing viewpoint and get through all the smoke that everyone "drinking the kool-aid" doesn't see, but that's not what's really going on and we all know it. It's a bitter grudge being dragged out for over two years now on a public forum that does nothing but further sully the reputation of all of those involved.

Even if we'd had two 0 win seasons in a row it wouldn't justify the kind of behavior that's been exhibited here. It's completely classless and I dare say it's so awful it could only happen amongst people who call themselves Christians. Sad, but true. Even if you truly believe that everything that happened two years ago was 100% wrong, how could anyone in your group of people use that to justify acting this way? If you think you're in the right, shouldn't you rise above and take the high road? No, what's been done here is not right and the fact that it has dragged on this long has made me lose all respect for everyone involved.

I'm done talking about this. If that's how you folks (CMII, in the beginning, grm, TBGBG, etc.) want to conduct yourselves on this board, have at it. I won't stop you. It may drive me away from keeping up with basketball on FlameFans, but I won't get involved. You know what you're doing and you know it's not right. At least I hope you do. If you don't, then I truly do feel sorry for you.

[grm]

I know what's going on too, and, like you, I have no desire to revisit past discussions. They are what they are, and that's that.

What I take issue with is someone else firing the first salvo, and then everybody going beserk when a volley is returned.
You and everybody else here knows how I felt a couple years ago, but I have been very careful to try and be a good Flames Fan member ("diplomatic" is what some have termed it.)

The year before last year, I begged for civility, and was pretty much told that such discussion was the whole purpose of this site. Things have definitely changed in that respect (remember some of the little signature lines, etc. etc.?)

Now, I'm lumped in with the other guys because you know who my best friend is, and you figure you know my heart, and probably you do, but it's not because of my posts.

Again, I have not one bad thing to say about RMK, nor the team. They had a very good year.... Beating Virginia is no small feat - ever. 2nd round - not bad. Lost some heartbreakers, or they would have had a 2nd place finish. Beat the two teams that are playing for the championship. Those are all great things. I'm just not going to begrudge VMI the victories, not am I going to attack Jason for being happy to get a win. When we beat HP by 45, fans were storming the court (I almost got run over in the rush) and I made my way over to the coach while everyone else was rejoicing with jubilation, and we stood there in the midst of the pandemonium enjoying the victory. I don't know how many years I have left on this earth, but I can assure you that that experience will always be treasured. I've not been privileged to meet the new(er) guys on the team, but It would be great if Tyler, Seth, Jesse, Kyle & all the rest could experience one or more BS championships - and I would be happy for them.

It might be some sort of creative humor to see "Mrs. RD" mentioned, but I think in light of the hard & hurt feelings, it would be better if we agreed not to do such things - you know, try and smoke the old "peace pipe" with one another.
If enough people tell me I'm wacko, I'll respect the message behind the statements.

[flameshaw]

Well, FWIW I posted it was a great year. It was based on the fact that we did a lot this year with the 4th youngest team in D1. The year would not have been nearly as good with a group of seniors. We could have done a lot worse if these freshmen played like true freshmen, but I am of the opinion they played with some maturity beyond their years. Yes there were freshmen moments.

We have made significant progress in the last couple of years and seem to be on the right track. We seem to be gaining some respect and support in the community and the basketball arena as well, that is good.

So, I have no problem with anyone saying we had a good year, not a great year. I am just glad that most of us can accept the fact we are improving and going in the right direction and that there is once again some excitement in the Vines. It used to be quiet as a morgue in there not many years ago.

[inthebeginning]

Well, FWIW I posted it was a great year. It was based on the fact that we did a lot this year with the 4th youngest team in D1. The year would not have been nearly as good with a group of seniors. We could have done a lot worse if these freshmen played like true freshmen, but I am of the opinion they played with some maturity beyond their years. Yes there were freshmen moments.

We have made significant progress in the last couple of years and seem to be on the right track. We seem to be gaining some respect and support in the community and the basketball arena as well, that is good.

So, I have no problem with anyone saying we had a good year, not a great year. I am just glad that most of us can accept the fact we are improving and going in the right direction and that there is once again some excitement in the Vines. It used to be quiet as a morgue in there not many years ago.

Just for keeping it real. It wasn't many years ago we were finishing 2-1-2-3. The $$$ ,promotional staff with increased enrollment have made an impact. But i was at games this year where there was little community in attendence. We are not climbing new mountains yet rather just trying to get back to where we were.

[SuperJon]

You obviously weren't at the Radford or VMI game. Against VMI, there were 5000 people from the community in attendance. For the Radford game that number was 4000. That's not counting students.

[Schfourteenteen]

I still dont get why the 8 is ommitted. I just dont. Good news is were about to have another 3 week e-war

[grm]

And that is very fair. The "8" is a part of the record. There are reasons (or excuses, if you will) but the facts are the facts,
and the "8" is a part of the facts.

[Schfourteenteen]

No I mean its cool. Reasons are reasons and things dont pan out the way we all want them to sometimes. I just dont think the image of Jeremy Eck can ever be erased from my memory.

[LUconn]

I know what's going on too, and, like you, I have no desire to revisit past discussions. They are what they are, and that's that.

What I take issue with is someone else firing the first salvo, and then everybody going beserk when a volley is returned.
You and everybody else here knows how I felt a couple years ago, but I have been very careful to try and be a good Flames Fan member ("diplomatic" is what some have termed it.)

The year before last year, I begged for civility, and was pretty much told that such discussion was the whole purpose of this site. Things have definitely changed in that respect (remember some of the little signature lines, etc. etc.?)

Now, I'm lumped in with the other guys because you know who my best friend is, and you figure you know my heart, and probably you do, but it's not because of my posts.

Again, I have not one bad thing to say about RMK, nor the team. They had a very good year.... Beating Virginia is no small feat - ever. 2nd round - not bad. Lost some heartbreakers, or they would have had a 2nd place finish. Beat the two teams that are playing for the championship. Those are all great things. I'm just not going to begrudge VMI the victories, not am I going to attack Jason for being happy to get a win. When we beat HP by 45, fans were storming the court (I almost got run over in the rush) and I made my way over to the coach while everyone else was rejoicing with jubilation, and we stood there in the midst of the pandemonium enjoying the victory. I don't know how many years I have left on this earth, but I can assure you that that experience will always be treasured. I've not been privileged to meet the new(er) guys on the team, but It would be great if Tyler, Seth, Jesse, Kyle & all the rest could experience one or more BS championships - and I would be happy for them.

It might be some sort of creative humor to see "Mrs. RD" mentioned, but I think in light of the hard & hurt feelings, it would be better if we agreed not to do such things - you know, try and smoke the old "peace pipe" with one another.
If enough people tell me I'm wacko, I'll respect the message behind the statements.

It's true. You get lumped in with the other lowlifes, unjustly. It seems like you do your best to keep the conversation away from "that area". And there is definitely an occasional shot at RD that is completely unnecessary. But I've got to tell you, I think 90% of the resentment around here toward him is completely because of these lackeys that apparently think they're doing the man some kind of service by hanging out here and pretending to be fans for a little bit, and giving out backhanded compliments whenever possible. I'm one of the guys who thought Randy should have gotten an extension and I liked him for the most part. But now he is completely tarnished in my eyes and it's no fault of his own. It's these retards who are just getting so tired. That really is a shame for your friend. I think the main problem is that we have 2 factions that are acting like immature college kids. And only one group actually has immature college students in it.

[Sly Fox]

Suffice it to say a 22-win season with a roster laden with freshman and only 9 scholarship players ont he floor is an unqualified success in my book. But frankly we may not be done yet.

[Cider Jim]

But frankly we may not be done yet.

Sly does love to tease us with his insider info.

[01LUGrad]

But frankly we may not be done yet.

Sly does love to tease us with his insider info.

Maybe he found out that the selection committe is giving us consideration for an auto bid for the dance!





Maybe not.