[JLFJR]

Words mean things. Saying something 'can't be trusted' is a whole lot different then saying something isn't affiliated with the University. In one you are calling them liars. In the other you are distancing yourself. Saying someone is on 'administrative leave' is different then saying they no longer work at the University. Saying God gets even with people.....
Just saying that words have meanings

And sometimes words mean one thing to one person and something else to another. If we were all perfect like you, PH, I guess everything we said would be completely understood by all.

[adam42381]

And some may read that reply and consider it to be a bit rude...

EDITED FOR LANGUAGE

[LUconn]

That was pretty uncalled for. Even by your almost non-existant standards.

[flamesfan30]

And sometimes words mean one thing to one person and something else to another. If we were all perfect like you, PH, I guess everything we said would be completely understood by all.

And some may read that reply and consider it to be a bit rude...

well, that escalated quickly.

[Purple Haize]

Words mean things. Saying something 'can't be trusted' is a whole lot different then saying something isn't affiliated with the University. In one you are calling them liars. In the other you are distancing yourself. Saying someone is on 'administrative leave' is different then saying they no longer work at the University. Saying God gets even with people.....
Just saying that words have meanings

And sometimes words mean one thing to one person and something else to another. If we were all perfect like you, PH, I guess everything we said would be completely understood by all.

Misunderstandings are normal. Thinking that people will take the phrase Can't Be Trusted and immediately extrapolate it to mean Not Affiliated With is a bit much. Obviously the site CAN be trusted because their information is correct. Administrative Leave does not immediately lead most people to conclude Not Working For The University. Saying they were Fired, Dismissed Stepped Down would. I'm not sure those standards are that high or taxing. Probably because I don't have high standards in general

[adam42381]

That was pretty uncalled for. Even by your almost non-existant standards.

You keep on worrying about your own standards. I'm good with mine. I used a word that could be offensive to some around these parts. The post has been edited.

[PAmedic]

It wouldn't be offensive if directed at ME but throwing it at the Chancellor was a bit much

I still love you tho

[adam42381]

And sometimes words mean one thing to one person and something else to another. If we were all perfect like you, PH, I guess everything we said would be completely understood by all.

And some may read that reply and consider it to be a bit rude...

well, that escalated quickly.

I edited my post. My apologies to anyone I may have offended. For the record, based on the PMs I've received, I'm not the only one that thinks the chancellor's comments tend to be smug and condescending at times. Putting a smiley face at the end doesn't change the tone of what is written.

[adam42381]

And sometimes words mean one thing to one person and something else to another. If we were all perfect like you, PH, I guess everything we said would be completely understood by all.

And some may read that reply and consider it to be a bit rude...

well, that escalated quickly.

Sometimes I have to remember which message board I am posting on and make sure to keep my language at a G rating. Honestly, I'm a little surprised the filter didn't get me on that one. Must have been the suffix.

[Purple Haize]

Why was it offensive? Words apparently can mean one thing to some people and another to someone else? We can't all be perfect.

[adam42381]

It wouldn't be offensive if directed at ME but throwing it at the Chancellor was a bit much

I still love you tho

Aww.

[adam42381]

Why was it offensive? Words apparently can mean one thing to some people and another to someone else? We can't all be perfect.

Well played.

[Purple Haize]

Why was it offensive? Words apparently can mean one thing to some people and another to someone else? We can't all be perfect.

Well played.

Would you say 'perfectly' played?

[adam42381]

That was implied. How could you possibly not understand that?

[JLFJR]

I wasn't offended and I don't think PH was offended by my post. Unlike some on this board, PH and I have pretty thick skin.

[Purple Haize]

I wasn't offended and I don't think PH was offended by my post. Unlike some on this board, PH and I have pretty thick skin.

That's just the callouses on my Tukish.

[GillsHill2013]

Some peoples skin is about as thick as Al Gores facts on Polar bears and global warming.

[DutchyNY]

What a giant cluster this thread has become. I feel as though the right move has been made; and I hope coach gets things straightened out and this doesn't ruin his life. Chancellor, if you are still reading, please assure us all that lessons of some sort have been learned here by the administration. LU needs to keep improving at acting like we belong at the upper echelon of college athletics before we will be fully accepted into it. I am content with chalking the handling of this sad situation as a learning opportunity at this point. The story does not have legs nationally thankfully, but has created some discourse internally which has succeeded at least in allowing an open discussion amongst varying viewpoints who all commonly have the best intent for the University in mind.

[THEcommish]

I understand Eaker has been placed on administrative leave.... any reason as to why this guy hasnt been FIRED... or asked to leave? Irregardless if his wife works for the athletic department... Students have been kicked out for FAR LESS... and this man is placed in a position of LEADERSHIP...

It's questions like this, I'd like to hear JFJR respond to.

The man is an assistant coach on an 0-7 team... he isn't replaceable?

I guess the question to be asked here... is how is this guy an asset to the Liberty Basketball team, and to the Liberty Community for that matter? If im a prospective athlete considering Liberty or any other school on our level... The decision has become easy... what student is going to go to a program with a coach that has committed a felony, and has a permanent record? Any parent going to trust sending their kids to a coach with a record?

[Purple Haize]

COMMISH. Firing someone for a substance abuse issue has serious legal ramifications. That type of behavior falls under a disability and if that is why he is fired with now attempt by the employer to provide help then you could be in trouble.
This type of thing happens at any institution. It won't influence a recruit one way or the other

[bigsmooth]

Haize you are really becoming a kool-aid drinker. First, if im a player on the team, i lose a bit of respect for Eaker. He has a problem and commtted a crime. I do not care if the crime was amended and eventually dropped. He should not return to the bench. If LU wants to make him the ops guy or something like that so be it. If i was a parent of an incoming recruit or current player i would have concerns about Eaker's involvement with the team. I am all about forgiveness and LU seems to be much better about second chances than when i was in school, but in leadership positions when mistakes like this are made, they need to be dismissed or have their roles reduced. If this happens to the head coach or AD, would they keep their job??

[Purple Haize]

SMOOTH someone such as yourself who has substance abuse problems should know! Shoemakers Anonymous missed you last week ! We pretty much agree. I'm hoping they are assisting him in getting the help he needs, which is a great use of administrative leave. It's something I hope the school would do with anyone. Obviously being on AL would prohibit you from performing the duties your title would entail. Whether or not you should return and retain your duties after AL depends on what steps you too while on AL

[bigsmooth]

haize do we agree?? i said eaker should be dismissed or put in a different role.

[Purple Haize]

haize do we agree?? i said eaker should be dismissed or put in a different role.

Administrative Leave sorts strips you of your position. I think dismissal, at least this in this case, shouldn't be the first option. I have more of a tolerance for RX abuse then 'street' use. I think, especially at LU, give the person a chance to get the help they need and support them in that effort. If they poop that opportunity away, then you've done what you can and off they go.

[LUsantaclaus]

BJ must be taking the day off. He sent me a private message this morning about this thread. I sent him the following reply and told him earlier this evening that he was welcome to post this message publicly:

Re: Coach arrested?
Sent: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:54 am
by JLFJR

Hey BJ. Just saw [your message]. Jason Eaker was placed on administrative leave this morning. We are praying for Jason but could not allow him to remain in a position of leadership. The AD was saddened and surprised by the outcome of yesterday's legal proceedings.

The local press was given this statement at about the same time.

Wow, you guys are so fast to jump to conclusions without facts. When the facts are not clear, why not give Liberty the benefit of the doubt, at least for a few hours? And this is not the first time this has happened. I recall that many of you have jumped to conclusions in the past only to be embarrassed when the facts came out.

Both Asa and Eaker should have been removed whatever the terminology use (ie. administrative leave, immediate suspension) as soon as charges were filed by the Lynchburg Pollice Department, then work back from that point. Individuals in our culture are going to have problems arise but the handling of these situations at the athletic administrative level is head scratching and then puts LU in a bad light. Because when the facts came to light both were guilty of felonies.