[jmdickens]

I am glad you finally understand...Nothing positive about the coach

[A.G.]

"I think at the end of the day as a coach, if you're not putting the players first, if you're not putting the university first, you're not doing the job. And I'm trying to do my job here." Dan Monson.


Dunton should follow in this guys footsteps

Yes--he will. Just like Monson led Gonzaga to the promised land of national prominence so will RD lead the Flames. I, for one, am glad to see Dickens starting to come around. A tall cold glass of Kool-Aid for our new friend.

Success as Minnesota's head coach came early for Monson, as his Gophers improved upon their number of conference wins in each of the coach's first three seasons (four in 1999-00, five in 2000-01 and nine in 2001-02). In 2001-02 Monson guided his team to their best Big Ten finish (sixth place) since 1992-93. Minnesota took the next step in 2002-03, when it made a trip to Madison Square Garden and the NIT Final Four, an accomplishment that had not been witnessed by Minnesota fans since 1993 when the Gophers advanced the NIT title game.

An outstanding recruiter, Monson has lured top-flight players to Minneapolis. Like blue-chipper Kris Humphries in 2003, who garnered Big Ten Freshman of the Year last season, or the arrival of highly touted transfer Adam Boone, from the University of North Carolina, that same year. In 2000-01, McDonald's All-American Rick Rickert came to Minnesota and made and immediate impact, also taking home Big Ten Freshman of the Year honors.

Prior to being tabbed head coach of the Gophers, Monson spent nine seasons (1988-89 to 1996-97) as an assistant at Gonzaga University (Wash.) before being named head coach of the Bulldogs prior to the start of the 1997-98 season. In two years (1997-98 to 1998-99) as head mentor at Gonzaga, Monson's record totaled 52-17 (.753). In 1999, Monson and the Bulldogs splashed onto the national scene, advancing all the way to the NCAA Tournament West Regional final, before bowing out to eventual champion Connecticut.

[lureal]

dickens again proves that he is the one with a major problem. it is to bad that the board gets tainted with such low life affiliations.

[jmdickens]

low life....wow what had Dunton improved???? One good season...I guess success to me is winning....hah, to love to be a bad basketball program..I wish I could be so much like you guys

[SuperJon]

dickens again proves that he is the one with a major problem. it is to bad that the board gets tainted with such low life affiliations.

We get tainted by you just as much.

[jmdickens]

I just take pride in being honest, and blunt.....it can be said about me as well...By the way, I am not a negative person, just dissapointed.

[Rocketfan]

First i used to react that same way as all of you do, to Dickens and others who think they are completely rational in there own minds having never seen the Hankinson days. They will find a way to be critical about anything and thats fine....its sad, but still fine.

I think the point that really needs to be stressed here is Sly has stated personal attacks will not be tolerated, especially when no one is encouraging them ( since no one posted in this forum for days, id say this was a blatant attempt to get a reaction from all of us ). If we( meaning all of us posters ) are supposed to follow the rules set aside by the creators of this board, then this is a fine time to make an example of that fact. Either the talk needs to be backed up or its only going to get worse from this point on. Dickens to me is like a 3 year old child testing his parents patience to see what he can/can't get away with saying before he gets his hand slapped.

I'd say it time to for some action, but again thats just my humble opinion. Dickens can say all he wants for all i care, but i know its going to push me and others away from even viewing basketball topics from here forth if these attacks are allowed to continue.

[mrich]

How is this a personal attack? Dickens has not attacked the character of RD just his coaching ability. If you read the description of the Men's Hoops Forum, you will find that the forum is described as a place to discuss RD and the program. So why can't we discuss RD?

[jmdickens]

I wasn't doing this for a reaction...just to make a point...It is a valid point. A coach who had some success stepped down when he realized he wasn't doing his job...

[pbow]

what the heck is wrong with you people????? the only one using person using personal attacks is lureal when he called dickens a low life

[A.G.]

I agree. Dickens was just making a point. He wasn't taking a leak in my Kool-Aid or on RD, personally.

[jmdickens]

Let everyone know, this is not the Hankinson days so stop bringing it up to defend Dunton....Hankinson was a bad coach, but that does not make Dunton any better. Also, I said in an earlier thread that I would recant everything negative about him that I have said if we either have 24 wins, or we outright win the BS season and tournament.

[A.G.]

As the Kool-Aid man, I respect and appreciate your candor, Dickens. As much as I am a believer, for me Coach D has to get it done this year or I'll be changing drinks.

[lureal]

it is to bad that we all can't get behind this team but i am confident that as the season progress we will see the best competitive basketball in liberty hi
it is too bad the critics are going to miss the joy of the journey and steal it from some others with their critical nature. i was at practice today and brewington was great. he is the real
deal. the team looks determined and coachd and the staff were really enthusiastic with instruction. there is a great deal of respect and team spirit in that arena. saturday will be a real test but a big opportunity. hope we all can be there.

[lureal]

ps. critics never build anything anyways they are too busy tearing things down.

[thepostman]

I like Coach D, but I do agree if he doesn't get things done this year he has to go...I think anything less then top 4 in conference (after last season that is an accomplishment) then this season should be considered a failure....and Coach D should be fired, its the way it goes....in the ecu game thread SCAR brought up dees and I can't stop thinking about how much different things could have been..and yes, i know that falls back onto Coach D....

[jmdickens]

I am behind this team...I want them to win......With or without the coach they have...I just know that what has happened would not have been tolerated at most other schools. I am not trying to tear anything down. It just appears to some people we are this great team, and to others the complete opposite. I have just seen too many mistakes made........I'll be there Saturday, and I hope WE WIN!!

[lureal]

i am not going to live in the past dees quit and decided to move on yes he scores but his team is 1-5. dunton will have us in the top of the league again. obviously winthrop has their best team to date so to say win it or else is ridiculous. i am a flame and i am rooting for lb, anthony, alex, brew and the rest of our guys.

[SuperJon]

He should not be fired, he just shouldn't be given an extension on his contract that runs out this year. That's two completely different things. He's done some great things, but right now, things aren't great. If we do not finish in the top 3 (that's where I differ from you postman, I think it should be top 3, not 4) then we should say, "Thank you, but the University has decided to go in a different direction. Good luck in the future in whatever you do."

[lureal]

i have seen alot of win in the first three years and will see many more over the next three years.

[jmdickens]

how is it ridiculous....With worse talent than what we have now, didn't Dunton turn them into a big tim contender in the BS. Why can't he take this team farther.....I also have one more question, Do we know for certain that Brew and LB can co-exist. It wont happen overnight

[SuperJon]

i have seen alot of win in the first three years and will see many more over the next three years.

Yes, but the coaching staff may or may not be the same the next three years. That is still yet to be determined.

[lureal]

i am just praying that the the team staff and players have a great game on sat. it is nice to have a conference usa team in the 'burg. go flames!

[thepostman]

i meant top 3 SJ, you are completely right

and Dees may have "quit" but I know if Coach D was better with communicating with his players then he wouldn't of had such a hard time with players leaving and behaving badly as he has in his time...I am a huge fan of his coaching style and I will argue with anyone on that point...but college athletics is about more then solid coaching its about developing young men into men, and though Coach D is a great man that doesn't mean he can communicate that to his players....with that said it still hurts everytime I think about Dees...he was a good guy, I have a couple classes with him...anyways, its not so much living in the pass as it is thinking about what might have been, there is nothing wrong with that...

[lureal]

there is always two sides to every story when dees is saying things like i didn't come here to be batman then sometimes it is not that the coach should bend over to make it work. today coach challenged tj and dwight in drill work. the man wants the best you have and dees didn't want to be accountable defensively and thought the grass was greener than time will tell.
from what i see it may have taken a year but dwight will help you think about what is. and lb is flat worth the price of admission.